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  • Thought I was getting fired (long, venting)

    The original thread title was 'Probably getting fired' but they called to tell me to show up for work tomorrow. Anyway, here's the particulars:

    Back around Thanksgiving, some of our office mail got rerouted. The item that started all this was the <phone company program> statement. The company earns points for paying our phone bill and we get to spend those points to get stuff. Now, it comes addressed to the HR lady but somehow wound up on my boss's desk. Oh, my boss is the Director of Finance, henceforth DoF, this will come up later. How did he get it? Beats me.

    He called me in to ask what I knew about it. I gave him the brief run down that it used to come to accounting, but she had it changed over to herself last year. We flipped through some of the items available and I had suggested that we get two of the $100 Best Buy cards to buy new IT equipment, since the IT Dept. was looking for ways to save money. Free $$$ = free equipment = Good. I jokingly said 'or maybe we should get them and split them between the IT staff' which is made up of me and the IT Manager, M.

    Well, DoF - who is also M's direct report boss, said that it wasn't a bad idea. Other departments get freebies and why shouldn't IT get something once in a while, too? I came with 'I'm just kidding' but he said no, go ahead, ask M and if you two agree, use the points. Shockingly, M was okay with the offer. I mean, who says 'Yes' to a gift from the company, right?

    Well, I needed a password to get in the system, which I didn't have, so I called and the <phone company> CSR let me do it when I have him the address & account numbers for the phones. Which is actually easy, since accounting has all the records for paying the bills, so I have all the info on hand. I also changed the contact information over to M, since he's the IT Manager.

    We get the cards a little before Christmas, time passes, and just this afternoon I get called into the meeting room by the General Manager (GM). Which happens, especially if there are questions about the EOY audit stuff coming up and what have you. I get in there, and he's sitting with HR Lady, DoF, and M.

    Well, the question is 'Do you know anything about redeeming <phone company program> points?' I explain what happened and DoF comes back saying he doesn't remember any such conversation or giving me permission to do this.

    It basically comes down to the situation being painted to look like I set the whole thing up to steal the points from the company's account. Well, not just me, but also the IT manager M. He's PO'D, more so than I am, because he wasn't even in on the initial conversations. To my credit (and his), he did mention that he and I had talked about it a few times right out in the accounting office, at no point did we try to hide what was going on. He also said that it was an honest mistake and if it's about the money, he'll write out a check to the company right now.

    The GM said as far as he's concerned it's outright theft and it's not about the money, but the fact that it happened at all.

    At this point, HR lady claims she couldn't get into the account when she tried and how did I get into the account without pretending to be someone else? Sorry I know how to speak to CSRs? Or perhaps the guy did a bad job of vetting me? I mean, I had all the account information on hand, so he verified stuff and let me do it. Despite not being able to get in, now she's into the account and has changed the password twice in two days, but now can't get back into the account - it's been locked - and what do I know about that? I suggested that maybe it's been locked because the password had to be changed twice in two days? I haven't called them, so I don't know.

    So, M and I were sent home while the GM, HR lady, and DoF talked it over to decide what they were going to do.

    I presumed I was going to be taking the hit on this, given that my boss has plausible deniability, M is a manager, and GM and HR Lady seemed to be in head hunting mode. Not to mention it saves the company money by cutting a job with no ability to qualify for unemployment.

    I've been told to report to work at the usual time tomorrow and that DoF will talk to me about what was decided.

    I've already been working on my resume and have decided to find other employment. Up until now, I've had zero complaints about DoF as a boss. In fact he's been one of my favorite bosses ever. But you throw me under the bus once, shame on me. Throw me under the bus twice - not gonna happen.

    And really, it's partially my fault. I should know by now to get things in writing if there is any manner at all in which it could come back to bite me. Anyway, I needed to vent, thanks for reading.

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    How absolutely HORRID!!!

    Im speechless, Gerrinson.

    PLEASE keep us posted...and let us know if you need to vent some more.
    "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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    • #3
      I have a sinking feeling tomorrow will involve you retrieving your belongings and being escorted out the door.

      Hope I'm wrong.

      Gotta love selective poor memories.
      Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

      "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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      • #4
        /hugs
        I think you can use them.

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        • #5
          My goddess...yes please keep us posted.

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          • #6
            Motherf*****! Sorry, Gerrinson. I agree with your under the bus comment: you have to be able to trust your boss.

            Good luck, and you know the rule: Keep us updated.
            Labor boards have info on local laws for free
            HR believes the first person in the door
            Learn how to go over whackamole bosses' heads safely
            Document everything
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            • #7
              I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.

              That's horrible. It really sucks that you have to worry about whether or not something your boss tells you is really okay. I wouldn't be comfortable working there anymore! Even if your job is safe tomorrow, I would still start looking for a new job.

              Please let us know what happens. I'll be hoping for the best for you -- as I'm sure everyone will.
              I am Wolverine.............and Wolverine does not do high kicks.

              He was a hero to me....and heroes are not supposed to die.

              Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw!

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              • #8
                At the moment, I still have my job. In fact, I specifically asked if I should bring a box for my stuff and the answer was "No, why would you think that?"

                That was HR lady, so maybe I'll bring an empty backpack, anyway.

                I'm already actively looking for other jobs. There is one in another one of our companies that I was interested in, but there seems little point in considering applying for it now.

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                • #9
                  That sucks. For both you and M, since his credibility is also tarnished, regardless of the fact that he was involved the least. Good luck, I hope it turns out okay.

                  And luck also with the job hunting. Sometimes a poor situation is life's way of telling you there's something better out there for you. At least I hope it is. Either way, best of luck.
                  A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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                  • #10
                    Absolutely horrifying. I can't blame you for wanting to look for another job.

                    I know you wrote it up for the post, but I'd suggest documenting it with dates and times while it's still fresh in your memory in the event it came back to haunt you yet again.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks all, for the support and good advice.

                      So, here's the way things have worked out today:

                      Me: Oral warning for 'not notifying affected personnel' of changes.

                      M: No disciplinary action on file. But, he's being laid off in 2 weeks.

                      M actually pulled me aside today and apologized saying there seems to have been sort of witch hunt out for his position for a couple months now and that he thinks all of this was just something they jumped on as great opportunity to pull it off.

                      It's being painted like I get a slap on the wrist for my actions, but someone else loses their job altogether for my actions, not theirs.

                      Either way, it's left me with a very sour taste in my mouth. I'm both and .

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                      • #12
                        WOAH.

                        They disciplined YOU to fire M?!

                        Okay, yeah. Quit, make sure they know exactly why you quit, and grab a new job.

                        A suggestion, though. Tempting though it is to "go out in style" remember that this place was great until this incident, and you may still want them on your resume.

                        It's up to you, of course, but not burning bridges is usually helpful...

                        Still, if you are and enough, do whatever you want.
                        If there’s one thing women love, it’s the guy that just can’t seem to find the line that divides “Ha Ha” and “Stacey, get your purse, we’re leaving before he comes back.”.

                        --Gravekeeper

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                        • #13
                          There's only a couple of bridges that I've burned, I don't think this will be one of them. I really need to keep this place on my resume and given the wording of the write up, while they might be able to 'imply' something if I give them as a reference, the actual file doesn't really say anything that bad about me other than that I was 'momentarily careless' which coupled with an explanation during an interview should be fine.

                          Nope, not burning bridges. Given the job market, I expect I'll be here for a while yet, unless something fabulous pops up. Otherwise, I'm employed, with benefits, pulling down more money a month than it costs to live. So, keep my head down and my eyes open.

                          I don't think I'll be turning my back on management, though, I'd at least like to see the knife coming for me, if I can.

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                          • #14
                            Ick. That's just scary, knowing that a management group has the tendency to backstab. I cannot stand corporations with high level political tensions. I'd pull my hair out, or start going gray.

                            Hugs, and virtual tequila. You'll need it.

                            Cutenoob
                            In my heart, in my soul, I'm a woman for rock & roll.
                            She's as fast as slugs on barbituates.

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