More ID stuff

[Anakah]

Like I mentioned in some posts before we're having a lot of credit card and ID fraud problems lately and have been watching each credit card or anything requiring an ID like hawks.
A bit of background leading up to my story:

Anyway, last week I had a guy who had his DL with a hole punched through where his address should have been and also it was through the expiration date, which I could tell was not until 2012 but once ID has been tampered with, our policy is that's its invalid and are not allowed to take it.

Now, he said he had paper work from the DMV in his car because he was waiting for a new DL for an address change. Which usually they just stick a sticker on the back of your DL's and or ID with the new address especially if your ID/DL didn't expire for a few more years... We told him no and he left pissed while refusing to show us the paperwork. Also his Mastercard looked funny.

Well, a an old lady came up to the window with the same thing. Same state of DL's and same kind of Mastercard. Now her mastercard also looked odd because the back was printed upside down. Normally credit cards aren't (the ones I've seen anyway) upside down on the back.

And she had a hole punched through the expiration date. We took copies of her ID and Credit card and eventually called security. The woman also refused to bring in the paperwork. She was getting quite angry about having to wait so long. Which is understandable.

I guess they figured out it was legit but still refused the woman until she brought in the paperwork.

SC: I'm going to next door casino!

Us:

So... a few hours later she comes back. I guess Next door casino wouldn't take her Id either!!! lol

She then shows my CW the paperwork which clearly states its for driving only and not to be used for identity purposes. Go figure. But we took it anyway. SC said she was going to throw the paperwork out thinking it was nothing. Yeah, awesome listener she is! I wish she would have and then got pulled over by a cop.

All in all, I don't think we were sucky we're just really trying to be careful regardless who we piss off in the process since its better to be safe than sorry.

[Whiskey]

Anyway, last week I had a guy who had his DL with a hole punched through where his address should have been and also it was through the expiration date, which I could tell was not until 2012 but once ID has been tampered with, our policy is that's its invalid and are not allowed to take it.

Now, he said he had paper work from the DMV in his car because he was waiting for a new DL for an address change. Which usually they just stick a sticker on the back of your DL's and or ID with the new address especially if your ID/DL didn't expire for a few more years... We told him no and he left pissed while refusing to show us the paperwork. Also his Mastercard looked funny.

I have experience with this EXACT issue. I lived in Kansas at the time and you have to get a new ID the day you turn 21. If the DMV has to give you a new ID, they give you a piece of paper with your photo/information as a temporary ID and invalidate (punch a hole in) your old ID making it useless. If he had the temporary ID from the DMV, I don't think it should be a problem, but it's a toss up between stores if they want to accept it or not. Stores don't HAVE to sell you anything.

[astyn-dbs]

I hate IDs!

I nearly always get attitude of some kind from people when I ID them, and they never seem to understand what kind of ID can be used. There are only three forms of ID that we can accept - drivers licence, 18+ card (ID for people who don't drive and can't afford/don't need a passport) and passports. But you can only use NZ drivers licences - we wouldn't know a foreign fake from real, so we don't accept them.
So why do so many idiots try to use anything else? Best story ever was a young guy who came in with his highschool ID card (used for checking out library books, can get some discounts at certain stores) that was expired and didn't even look like him. So of course I asked him his full name and date of birth. He screwed it up completely, but still got pissy at me when I refused him. Dickhead.

[sirwired]

FYI, my Capital One card is printed upside-down on the back.

I think it's weird too. It's my only card printed that way.

SirWired

[MelodiousBubbles]

Am I the only one that would be thrilled with people asking for my ID with CC's and such? It ensures my shit doesn't become someone else's, and in general makes me feel a bit more secure.

But yeah... I card just about everyone for anything I'm required to unless I know them, or they look about 50. It makes most people feel good because it means they look younger, but I do get the occasional dickhead who throws a tantrum because I won't let him buy a pack of beer without ID while he looks 16

[Merriweather]

Am I the only one that would be thrilled with people asking for my ID with CC's and such? It ensures my shit doesn't become someone else's, and in general makes me feel a bit more secure.

But yeah... I card just about everyone for anything I'm required to unless I know them, or they look about 50. It makes most people feel good because it means they look younger, but I do get the occasional dickhead who throws a tantrum because I won't let him buy a pack of beer without ID while he looks 16

Totally agree - if they're asking for my ID when I use my CC, that means if someone takes it, they'll ask for theirs, and hopefully get kept from using it saving me money/and/or hassles. You know the ones who scream the loudest about you checing their ID would also scream the loudest if someone else got their CC and used it

As for age ID's, when I was young I looked much younger (to the point of once having a friiend's visiting 15 year old step son hit on me cause he thought his mom had me pick him up at the airport so he could meet me - when in reality, I was just doing a favour for her cause we were friends who's husbands were overseas on the same ship, LOL). I don't recall ever getting upset over being asked for an ID, in fact, I found it terribly amusing to see their faces when they did the addition in their heads, LOL.

There was a commercial, one of those public service things, might have been our state only (and not even sure what state I was living in) that I loved. Showed a woman (jeans, jeans jacket, blonde hair down so you couldn't see her face) pick up a six pack then the clerk asks for her ID. As she hands it over, she pulls her hair back so you can see her better, and she's smiling - the tag line was "Always ask for ID - make some forty-something's day".

[Jester]

Now her mastercard also looked odd because the back was printed upside down. Normally credit cards aren't (the ones I've seen anyway) upside down on the back.

Normally they aren't, no. That is not to say that it never happens. I have seen it enough times to tell you it is not that uncommon. It is a printing error on the part of the credit card manufacturer, and just like any other product, errors do happen. Hell, I once bought a blue-backed deck of playing cards only to open the blue box and discover red-backed cards inside. I have only seen that once. I once bought a record that was printed with one label but had an entire different band's recording on it. I saw that one once. I have seen countless examples of credit cards with the backsides reversed from the font side. Not that uncommon, honestly.

[Whiskey]

Credit cards & ID

Where is this even required anymore? Self-swipe has made this procedure ridiculously obsolute. I've used my grandmas card, multiple boyfriends cards, other peoples EBT cards. I've never been carded on a CC unless it was a place where the cashier swiped it and even then it was a 80/20 swing if they'd ask for ID. I also never signed the back of my card (which i realized was stupid and started signing them) and my signature amounts to A~~~~ or when I know theyre supposed to check "This is not my card"

Never had a problem.

[bainsidhe]

Where is this even required anymore?

It's true that many stores have streamlined the checkout process, but I believe the OP works in a casino and is therefore in a completely different environment. If you want cash straight from the casino, you need to have proper ID. For that matter, the casinos around these parts require proper ID before you can even step foot onto the floor. That means no kids or anyone under 21. I would think the potential for fraud is extremely high in casinos, which is why so many rules are in place.

[BookstoreEscapee]

For that matter, the casinos around these parts require proper ID before you can even step foot onto the floor. That means no kids or anyone under 21. I would think the potential for fraud is extremely high in casinos, which is why so many rules are in place.

Heh, the one time I went to gamble in Atlantic City (because I could...! because I had just turned 21. Actually my friend's mom and stepdad had said they'd take her when she turned 21 and she waited 6 months so I could go with them) my friend and I got carded 5 times just walking around the floor (and once at the cashier getting change)...twice by the same guy! Funny part was, our IDs were pretty much interchangeable because we look a lot alike.

[Whiskey]

casino

Proper ID makes sense then! I've only been to a casino a handful of times and only got carded walking in. This was in missouri where your casino had to be in a boat

[Anakah]

The type of transaction causes the person to have to go to the cage to retrieve their money. Had they done a normal debit card transaction the money would've come out of the machine. But she had a credit card and didn't use a pin and got stuck coming up to the cage.

[Jester]

Where is this even required anymore?

Well, when the credit card says "See ID," this is required in places that self-swipe is not an option. Such as restaurants, bars, and hotels, among others.

[Merriweather]

Where is this even required anymore? Self-swipe has made this procedure ridiculously obsolute. I've used my grandmas card, multiple boyfriends cards, other peoples EBT cards. I've never been carded on a CC unless it was a place where the cashier swiped it and even then it was a 80/20 swing if they'd ask for ID. I also never signed the back of my card (which i realized was stupid and started signing them) and my signature amounts to A~~~~ or when I know theyre supposed to check "This is not my card"

Never had a problem.

I shop at lots of small indivualy owned shops, tons of them don't have the latest equipment, and still check ID's. And yes, there are even some large stores that check. Personally, I like it, I hate knowing that anyone can use my card no questions asked. I assume you have permission from anyone who's card you use, but if you can use it everywhere, so could anyone else - rather scary, in my book.

[VenomX]

Well, when the credit card says "See ID," this is required in places that self-swipe is not an option. Such as restaurants, bars, and hotels, among others.

I had one of these the other day at work. Woman tells me to fill her car up and I asked how she was paying. She hands me her card and in black marker on the front and back is "SEE ID". So I ask her for her ID and she flips out because she had to reopen her purse and pocket book.

I just told her that SHE was the one that put "SEE ID" on the card and not me. If it wasn't on there then I would have just swiped the card and started the pump.

I was told when I first got hired that we are to "just run the card" and have them sign the slip. As far as I know it only came back to bite the owner a few times. One guy tried to dispute 5 years of charges. And a few people had reported their cards stolen.

Back then we had a little box we swiped the card, told it the amount and it prited the slip. Now each pump has a card reader.

The old one use to cause lots of problems, like they would get $50 in gas and when we ran the card it would be declined. The new way rocks, we run the card first and it will not allow us to pump gas until the card is approved. No more arguments on how they are going to pay us. Card denied = sorry got another card or cash? No? No gas for you!