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Wait a minute...
The pub, which was very busy that night, took the $73, but then called the cops, who treated the matter as a theft.Quote Dalesys:
... as in "Ifn thet dawg comes at me, Ima gonna shutz ma panz!"
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If they thought the service was bad before, I wonder what they thought about it when the cops showed up
Why do some places insist on mandatory gratuity for large parties? I always thought that was a little weird. I thought gratuity was always at the discretion of the customer. Can someone in the food service industry maybe explain that for me?!
"For truth is always strange; stranger than fiction." -- Lord Byron
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As someone who was a waiter, i can shed a little on the idea. The only times we added gratuity to a party was if there was at least 15 people or more, and under the circumstances that This was the servers only table for a time.
But I would have not tipped the waitress either in these circumstances.
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Quoth Immortal1982 View PostAs someone who was a waiter, i can shed a little on the idea. The only times we added gratuity to a party was if there was at least 15 people or more, and under the circumstances that This was the servers only table for a time.
But I would have not tipped the waitress either in these circumstances."If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant
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The standard argument that will be made . . . In fact, I've noticed that it already has . . . in defense of the two students is "Tipping is ALWAYS optional."
Uh, no. Actually, in this case, it is not.
The menu clearly states, "18 percent gratuity added to check of parties of 6 of more," and a similar message is printed on receipts, a pub employee said this morning.
If these students had a problem with an automatic 18% gratuity being placed on their check, they should have gone somewhere else.
Did they not realize that they would be required to pay the gratuity? Then they should have asked. Not knowing what the rules are is not a defense to breaking the rules.
As it is, they agreed to pay that 18% when they chose to sit down to eat.
End of story.“Excuse me. Is this bracelet real jade?”
“Ma’am, this is a thrift shop. The tag on the bracelet says $1.50. It comes with a matching mood ring. What do you think?”
“I don’t know.”
“Yes, it’s real.”
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Quoth Broomjockey View PostLikely theft of services.Interviewer: What is your greatest weakness?
Me: I expect competence from my coworkers.
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Quoth Mnemjian View Post
Why do some places insist on mandatory gratuity for large parties? I always thought that was a little weird. I thought gratuity was always at the discretion of the customer. Can someone in the food service industry maybe explain that for me?
This is as open and shut as they come. The service may have sucked, but the gratuity policy is clearly disclosed to customers in the menu and on the receipts. They agreed to that when they decided to eat there. It's not the same as a tip since it's automatically added to your bill.Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.
"I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily
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Quoth gremcint View PostWhat service though,
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Quoth gremcint View PostWhat service though, if the tip is for the service and they had to get their own refill, napkins, silverware and waited that long for food then they didn't get the service they were being asked to pay for.
And somebody else might argue that as long as they did get their food eventually, the minimum requirements of service were fulfilled. Hence, they are expected to pay for it.
However, as I've said on the Fratching thread regarding this subject . . . Our opinions do not carry the force of law.
As I see it . . . If these students felt that an automatic 18% gratuity was unacceptable, they should have gone somewhere else.
If they felt that the level of service they were receiving was unacceptable, they should have gotten up and left - after paying for their drinks and whatever else they had already consumed.
But when they chose to sit down to eat, they agreed to abide by the restaurant's terms.
And when they chose to remain at the restaurant table for the entire length of time required to receive and consume their meal, they agreed to pay for it. And, per the terms stated in their menus, they also agreed to pay the 18% gratuity.
As I've said . . . They agreed to the restaurant's terms. They don't get to change the terms afterward just because they think they should be able to.“Excuse me. Is this bracelet real jade?”
“Ma’am, this is a thrift shop. The tag on the bracelet says $1.50. It comes with a matching mood ring. What do you think?”
“I don’t know.”
“Yes, it’s real.”
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it was either leave after waiting an hour all ready for their food or refusing to tip because of poor service because they they would be tipping is what they had to do for their selves I.E. get refills, get silver wear and a get napkins
all the waiter did was bring out food, and most likely the intial drink.
i would have left after 30 minutes and only paid for my drinks, and still got arrested because i wouldnt tip becaus ei would have had to get the refills myself.
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