so now we're to be EMT (ranty)

[HYHYBT]

If your real-life conditions include a fire that won't stay lit long enough to use the extinguisher, are you supposed to keep lighting it then too?

It does make sense that one would have to be done outside; it makes a huge mess. But surely it can wait for a drier day!

[jedimaster91]

Sounds like your company is working from old material for CPR. I re-certified last summer and the instructor said the Red Cross says compressions only unless you're EMS or already in a hospital. Even then, it's not mouth-to-mouth. Where I work you can get fired for mouth-to-mouth even with a barrier device. They want you to use the ambu bag.

AEDs aren't that difficult. The machine tells you what to do. The only thing a human has to do is switch it on and it walks you through the rest. That and make sure no one is touching the patient if a shock is needed. That would be bad.

[Slave to the Phone]

At my last non-public facing government job, I had to take first aid and CPR every year. I've never taken it at this job but in less than 2 years I have had classes on what to do if there is a shooter in the building, what to do if someone rams the building with a vehicle and what to do in case of a lock-down due to a shooter outside the building.

(Run, run and hide)

We get reimbursed for buying approved pepper gel or spray to carry at work. I just bought a tactical cane and will be reimbursed for half the cost of the cane and all of the classes I want to instruct me in its proper use for self defense. (Trip them, hit them while they are down and then run or hobble away as fast as you can.)

Pretty sad when my primary job is to give people food.

[muppet101]

I did fire training last year and it was one of the best things I've ever done

I was very scared at the beginning when we had to put out a chip pan fire and approaching it with the damp towel was the scariest thing I've ever done but I'm so pleased that I got a chance to use a fire extinguisher in a safe controlled environment means that I would likely be more prepared to assist in putting out a fire if I would ever need to. Here, its mandatory for all cars to carry one and if you are the first at an incident you are obliged to help.

And like the poster that quoted Vinnie Jones above I'd be prepared to give CPR due to the difference it could make to someone's chances.

[Lovecats]

If your real-life conditions include a fire that won't stay lit long enough to use the extinguisher, are you supposed to keep lighting it then too?

I had a really hard time reading that to my husband without laughing..

[Geek King]

You do have your Blessed little yellow screwdriver, don't you?

A spritz of extinguisher into the smoldering planter box could easily be the difference between a whiff of smoke and the hotel shut down for months.

Hail Vidicon, Brother! May he keep us safe from Murphy and the Imp of the Perverse!

And yeah, I'm still that boy scout coworker that can't walk away from an emergency and always volunteers for the first responder training to keep my skills up. I'm all for that kind of training, but only if you're going to use it when the fecal material strikes the oscillating blades. Forcing everybody to do it is probably a waste of resources, rather than getting volunteers.

Also, if they're using dummies for training, they should have alcohol wipes available to clean the contact areas between trainees.

[AccountingDrone]

We get reimbursed for buying approved pepper gel or spray to carry at work. I just bought a tactical cane and will be reimbursed for half the cost of the cane and all of the classes I want to instruct me in its proper use for self defense. (Trip them, hit them while they are down and then run or hobble away as fast as you can.)

Pretty sad when my primary job is to give people food.

Ice spikes, baby! I haz them for my crutches

[Naaman]

I really think that being trained to use the fire extinguisher is a good idea. However, why would they do it with a real fire? Fire extinguishers are supposed to be point and click, aren't they? "This is how you activate it. Point it like this and pull." I'm pretty sure they're not complicated at all.

When I had my fire safety training we were shown how to use the different extinguishers on some differing fire because each extinguisher acts differently when you actuate it and each fire acts differently when you try to put it out.

[raw1989]

You could sue for broken ribs but I think most of that is protected now to prevent this I know CPR and in some cases it may save someone's life EMT's may take 5 to 10 minutes to get there its life or death ill do CPR but id like to get a one way value guard to protect me.

[Geek King]

You could sue for broken ribs but I think most of that is protected now to prevent this I know CPR and in some cases it may save someone's life EMT's may take 5 to 10 minutes to get there its life or death ill do CPR but id like to get a one way value guard to protect me.

In the US, you are protected by by Good Samaritan laws, as long as you are acting within reason. Those don't apply to professionals like medical doctors, nurses, paramedics and the like, btw. You're even protected from making slight mistakes like using older information or incorrect compression counts. Interestingly, even professonal responders are covered for things like helicopter prop wash causing damage or mufflers causing grass damage or burns during a call.

Many countries have similar laws to protect first responders, but I don't have the details on that.

Relevant: https://definitions.uslegal.com/g/good-samaritans/