Even a child knows you're an idiot

[Racket_Man]

Or perhaps the real estate agent only took people to view the house on days when the wind wasn't coming from the usual direction.

Still, there's an amazing piece of technology called a MAP. If you know there's an airport in the city, a MAP can tell you how close it is to any given location. Using an even more advanced technology combination (TELEPHONE and PHONE BOOK), along with information obtained from the MAP, contact the airport's general information line, explain that you're looking at a house roughly $distance from the airport in $direction, and ask what proportion of the time planes will be taking off or landing over the house. Of course, this implies that the purchaser possesses an exceedingly rare artifact known as a BRAIN.

Obviously there were times longs ago when things like Google Earth, Google Streetview, Mapquest, and Satalite views only exsisted in an engineers and miltiary commanders wet dream.

Back when St. Louis Lambert International was still growing back inthe 60's and 70's most of Bridgeton, Fregeson and parts thereof were being built up AND the land and subsequent built homes were CHEAP very CHEAP. WHY?????? no one mentioned the impending airport runway and grounds expansion and the proliferation of VERY noisy jet aircraft. Most people just saw the CHEAP price and did not think about all the coming noise problems. If they were warned they mostly ignored the warning.

Then had the balls to complain.

THese days there is little excuse.

[sms001]

but after awhile you just didn't really hear them anymore.

And the flipside, of course, is also true. After many years in less-than-cathedral-like Chicago (including being less than a 1/4 mile from the CSX) I moved to a very small town in Wisconsin - and didn't sleep for three nights. WAY too damn quiet.

[Racket_Man]

And the flipside, of course, is also true. After many years in less-than-cathedral-like Chicago (including being less than a 1/4 mile from the CSX) I moved to a very small town in Wisconsin - and didn't sleep for three nights. WAY too damn quiet.

same thing here BUT I first lived VERY rual and loved it NO NOISE from O'Hare and the airport that I did live next to was QUIET even with larger aricraft coming and going. Slept like a baby.

[TawnyMyst]

The railyard I work in has been in the same location for over 100 years. Our shop was built in 1907. Five years ago they built some condos just outside the fence to the north of us. Three blocks away is the major bar area in this city. We run trains 24/6/365. The amount of noise complaints and letters to the editors that this has generated is amazing. Found out afterwards that the condo developer was telling customers not to worry, we ran during the day only and anyways we were moving out of the city in a year or so. No plans have ever been made to move us!

[bhskittykatt]

The railyard I work in has been in the same location for over 100 years. Our shop was built in 1907. Five years ago they built some condos just outside the fence to the north of us. Three blocks away is the major bar area in this city. We run trains 24/6/365. The amount of noise complaints and letters to the editors that this has generated is amazing. Found out afterwards that the condo developer was telling customers not to worry, we ran during the day only and anyways we were moving out of the city in a year or so. No plans have ever been made to move us!

I've read a lot of complaints from condo owners along our waterfront. The train tracks are right there, how did you not notice them when you moved in?


Our airport recently underwent an expansion to allow for larger planes. I can get a few complaints for the residents out there. However, some of the letters coming in to the newspapers are from my own neighborhood...on the other side of town. Um...yeah, just no. Even if the airport causes more plane traffic in general, the planes aren't allowed (generally) to fly over the city -- they have to come in from over the water (though if you know how to work the tower right, you can get them to let you fly in from over the city; most planes do go around though). I can't believe some people in my own neighborhood are complaining, since we really do have nothing to complain about (at least in terms of traffic noise). I know I have no complaints, and actually like the expanded service in case I ever need to use it!