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  • Wherein Philips earns a visit from the Fist of Death

    (cut and paste from a email I sent to a consumer website and then slightly edited and sent to Philips' corporate officers)

    Here's the story. I have a Philips TV, 30 inch widescreen HDTV. Real nice, the problem is Philips has the most impossible to deal with customer service ever. I should have known what I was in for when the very first day I had it, I had a problem with the setup and ended up practically screaming at the CSR because she wanted me to swap out my cable box (turned out to be I just had some similarly colored A/V cables switched around). I chalked it up to just some overzealous phone rep and moved on.


    What ended up happening is now when I turn the TV on, the power light comes on but the picture doesn't appear. If I unplug the set for about a minute it works fine. This gets annoying as hell after a while. Now the fun truly begins. First thing is when you call in to Philips you get outsourced reps who are barely understandable. I'm not just talking thick accents, I mean you literally can't make out a word they were saying, and I used to work in an area with a fairly large population from India so I'm used to the accent. If I can't make it out, it's bad. I ended up having to be transferred to about 5 different people before I finally got to someone I could understand enough to help me, and it was determined that I needed the TV serviced, as it seems there is an issue with the power supply. I get a couple of names of local TV shops that do Philips warranty work and I think everything's fine? Right?


    Wrong.


    I call the first name on the list, and I get greeted by a guy who's giving me every impression I'm interrupting something important by asking about getting my TV fixed. He informs me they only send people out from 8-5 Monday to Friday. Literally. Their appointments are from 8-5 so you not only need to take a day off work, you have to spend that day tethered to the house so you don't miss your chance. When I stated that missing a day of work is not exactly in the cards for me, I really started to get the "go away, you bother me" treatment. I was told that they do have shop hours on Saturday but I would have to bring the set in. Now remember I have a 30 inch widescreen TV. I also drive a Camry. Physics would indicate that's an impossibility no matter what you try. Here's the options I got in response (after the guy spoke to his "Sales Manager"):


    1. Pay out of my own pocket to rent a truck to get the TV there.
    2. Pay out of my own pocket the cost of overtime to send a guy out to my house after 5pm.


    I told the guy if he was serious that the only way I can get a in-warranty repair done was to pay extra costs out of my own pocket, then I'd have to look at other options. At that point he literally laughed in my face, said "bye" in a sing-song voice and hung up on me,


    This is the kind of service you get from an Authorized Philips Repair Center.


    I called Philips back on 9/11 to let them know the kind of treatment I received from a place they recommended to me, and was told that my complaints would be forwarded to their Customer Relations department and someone would get back to me in 1-2 days. I called back in yesterday (9/17) only to be told the turnaround time was 3-4 days but they couldn't connect me to them right now because they closed at 5:30. Funny thing is that I called them a little after 5, but the supervisor I was transferred to repeatedly said the department I needed to speak to was closed. I guess I spent so much time trying to get this resolved I entered a vortex of suck where time runs a half hour faster.


    So now I await a call from the Customer Relations department, and I'm really not expecting anything other than empty apologies (every rep offers the same canned "I'm so sorry you're having this problem" script every time I relate my tale of woe) and maybe a pat on the head. It really seems they're trying to just wait me out hoping I'll give up out of frustration.


    So let that be a lesson to all, buy a Philips TV and run the risk of having to deal with unintelligible phone reps and service centers who think it's hilarious that you're not willing to lug a big ass TV into their shop for warranty work.
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    Now what really rubs me is that as a phone rep myself I try REALLY REALLY hard to not go all SC on someone, which ends up in just more stress on my part. Words cannot express the sheer frustration that every dealing with this company entails. I've never seen a company that seems so dedicated to not giving a crap and I work for the CABLE COMPANY for chrissakes

    Just today I devoted my entire 30 minute lunch break to a follow up call. Fifteen of those minutes were spent with a first-line rep putting me on hold to "access my files". DUDE are you having them walked over individually from the HQ in Holland?
    "You know, there are times when it's a source of personal pride not to be human." - Hobbes

  • #2
    Just to follow up on this, I got a phonecall today from the Customer Relations Executive Board and I'm getting my TV fixed for free.

    And I didn't even have to get sucky about it.
    "You know, there are times when it's a source of personal pride not to be human." - Hobbes

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    • #3
      YAY! And you didn't even have to kill anyone and display their broken body as a warning to others!
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      • #4
        You don't say how long you have had the TV. If it's within the first 30 days I just take it back to the store I got it at and get another. If it has same problem, get another brand.

        Glad it worked out well for you though.
        GFY

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        • #5
          Pardon the thread necromancy, but I figured you all would enjoy hearing what hopefully is the final chapter of Me vs Philips: The Trilogy.

          When I last left you, I got the news that my TV was being fixed for free. Well my set was picked up for repair on 9/25 and I haven't got it back yet. I finally snapped and sent another email to the Executive Customer Service on Sunday morning and got a call Monday morning.

          Long story short, the part on my TV that failed is located on a larger circuit board. Instead of replacing the whole board (which would be easier, faster, but more expensive) they just sent the component to the repair shop and basically expected the guy to perform microscopic level brain surgery on my TV. They pretty much threw the repair guy under the bus for putting him in a position he wasn't comfortable with and having to bear the brunt of having an angry customer.

          So when I spoke with Miss Executive Customer Service today, she decided after talking to the repair shop that the best plan of action was just to replace the TV. Now my set was a 30 inch widescreen CRT (tube) HDTV, which they stopped making shortly after I bought it. In it's place I'm getting a 32 inch LCD HDTV instead.

          Now a few things should be pointed out here:

          1. Not once did I yell, scream, or demand a new TV. I did remain firm in stating my opinion that the situation as it was playing out was unacceptable and I would not tolerate going any longer without some form of TV.
          2. When faced with ineffective support, even when asking for a manager, I took matters into my own hands, went to the company website, and did a little fishing for corporate e-mail addresses.
          3. I went nearly a month without getting a $400 TV replaced and not once did I consider taking my anger out on the nearest store that sold Philips products.


          The moral:

          Sometimes not being a douchebag has it's rewards.
          "You know, there are times when it's a source of personal pride not to be human." - Hobbes

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          • #6
            Quoth CancelMyService View Post
            Long story short, the part on my TV that failed is located on a larger circuit board. Instead of replacing the whole board (which would be easier, faster, but more expensive) they just sent the component to the repair shop and basically expected the guy to perform microscopic level brain surgery on my TV. They pretty much threw the repair guy under the bus for putting him in a position he wasn't comfortable with and having to bear the brunt of having an angry customer.
            To be fair, most CRT component replacement issues aren't "microscopic", and can be done with a basic soldering iron. And aren't all that difficult if you're tech has had a bit of training. Plus, if the model you have is out of production, they may not have any spare boards left to do a board swap with.

            They still should have done a bit more to speed the process along.

            I've done many on-board fixes for monitor boards, and all the training I got was on-the-job type traning. Usually my comapny prefers to have the boards sent in, but that's for diagnostic purposes, in case there are more problems than just the immediate one you see.


            Oh, and congratuations on the upgrade, and even more congratulations for keeping your cool the entire time.

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            • #7
              The fun gurndigarn begins if the piece is a surface mount chip, specially a PQFP or similar with lots of leads. And even then a good technician with a good iron and air pencil should be able to replace one in a single say... once they have the replacement part.
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              • #8
                Well I never found out what exactly needed replaced, but the tech made it sound it had a thousand connectors that needed attached. Honestly, it just seemed like Philips was going out of its way to make the repair take as long as possible (since they waived all the costs to me) like some sort of passive-aggressive revenge. Even the repair man said as much when he told me that with previous TVs with the same problem he's never had them send just a component part instead of the whole board before.

                Regardless of the tech's ability, it still took nearly 3 weeks to get the part which is what really pissed me off. What was funny is that Miss Executive Customer Service really never denied they were dragging their feet when I asked about it.
                "You know, there are times when it's a source of personal pride not to be human." - Hobbes

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                • #9
                  I'm in awe of you. I would have been bashing someone's head in with a baseball bat by now.

                  But that's me.
                  Total surrender
                  Your touch is so tender
                  Your skin is like water on a burning beach
                  And it brings me relief
                  "Nails in My Feet" - Crowded House

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Broomjockey View Post
                    YAY! And you didn't even have to kill anyone and display their broken body as a warning to others!
                    ...

                    Well, that's no fun. What's the point is having sucky people around if you can't put their head on a pike and display it proudly?
                    I pray for the strength to change what I can, the inability to change what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference -Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes

                    Being a pessimist and cynical wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't right so often!

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Spiffy McMoron View Post
                      ...

                      Well, that's no fun. What's the point is having sucky people around if you can't put their head on a pike and display it proudly?
                      Yeah, but you and I both know the amount of paperwork involved in that, plus if you don't preserve it properly, it really starts to smell after a few days, and that's just something I don't have time for right now.
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