I'm apparently a bad group member.

[dalesys]

Smiley, tell him he put his CTR t-shirt on inside out, and it's inverting his behavior.

[Merriweather]

O that attitude isn't restricted to just activists. Some of the guilds I saw in online gaming weren't much different.

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That general attitude, that everyone has time to get involved with what that person considers important isn't even limited to groups. After college (which I finally got to several years after high school, when I was already in the "real" world), I was turned down for the first job I applied for - I had a 4.0 grade average and all requirements, but they didn't like the fact that I have very few extra-curricular activities listed, so I wasn't a "well-rounded person".

I went to school full time, kept up a perfect grade average, worked, and was raising my child alone after a divorce - and I wasn't well rounded enough cause I didn't join half a dozen stupid clubs and go to meetings rather than spend time with my child. (And yes, they did know that was the reason I didn't join a lot of clubs).

No one group/school/job/person should expect 100% out of you, and anyone who does is just off on a control trip.

[Ironclad Alibi]

A club I belong to likes to have lunch one day a month. We could not get a consensus on which day of the week was best for everyone. So we decided to have our lunch on the 8th of the month. That way it is on a different day of the week each time, and no one has to miss all of the lunches. It has worked out very well.

[Geek King]

I am seriously considering giving up my position on the executive due to regular members figuring that they can dictate what goes on with the society. And when I bring up why it's a good idea to do things a certain way I'm told "we aren't a fucking government

Repeat the following until you're comfortable saying it straight-faced and rapidly:

"Niether are we an anarchy, Jonny McMannerless. Now sit down and wait your turn, or so $diety help me, you will all be going back to using the Talking Stick until you have the social graces of a kindergardener Hun and can raise your hand and wait to be recognized before you speak!"

Insert descriptive vulgarities as appropriate.

[Redbeard]

Now that you mention it, I've had to put up with that in the past with a few of the LARP groups that I've been involved in.

O that attitude isn't restricted to just activists. Some of the guilds I saw in online gaming weren't much different.

They felt you should plan your life around their raids. The group had to come first in your life or there was something wrong with you. about the only leeway they had was for people deployed or on duty... and even then I think some didn't understand why we couldn't log in, or why we didn't swap duty for the raid to come first.


Whether it's an activist group, gaming group, or social hanging out group... sometimes the group has to pull its head out of its ass and realize they're not the most important thing in the universe.

[TheSHAD0W]

Kind of off on a tangent, but this discussion made me flash on Cory Doctorow's novel "Eastern Standard Tribe". (Free download available.)