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    Had an interesting experience with the closure of the ramp from I90 to I91 southbound due to construction.

    For those not familiar with the U.S. Northeast, I90 through Massachusetts is a toll road. The offramps from both the eastbound and westbound lanes merge so one set of tollbooths can handle both, then the ramps split depending on which direction you want to go on the connecting road.

    Exit 4 leads onto both I91 and U.S. 5, with I91 taking the left branch of the split (and the ramp later breaking into ramps for northbound and southbound) and U.S. 5 taking the right branch (again, later breaking into northbound and southbound). About a mile or 2 south of I90, there's an interchange where you can go from I91 to U.S. 5, or vice versa.

    There was some construction being done which required the closure of the ramp onto I91 southbound, so naturally there was a warning sign - positioned so you could only see it AFTER you had committed to going onto I91, meaning you would have to go northbound even if you wanted to go southbound. Needless to say, at the next offramp from northbound it was a "charlie foxtrot" of vehicles trying to get onto the cross street and then the ramp to the southbound side.

    Things would have gone a lot more smoothly if the warning sign had been immediately after the offramps from I90 eastbound and westbound had merged (traffic becomes a single lane, then splits into multiple lanes for the tollbooths) so people wanting to go south on I91 could take the right side tollbooths, go onto U.S. 5 for a mile or so (to the interchange I described earlier), then get onto I91.

    Why wouldn't the DOT put the sign warning of ramp closure early enough that people could take the logical alternative route?
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    Quoth wolfie View Post
    Why wouldn't the DOT put the sign warning of ramp closure early enough that people could take the logical alternative route?
    Do they collect more tolls they way they did it?
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    • #3
      Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
      Do they collect more tolls they way they did it?
      Nope, because although I90 is a toll road, both I91 and U.S. 5 are free. They collect exactly the same toll regardless of whether someone wanting I91 southbound takes U.S. 5 southbound to the interchange and switches over (easy), or I91 northbound, does a "hammerhead", and then goes southbound (difficult, especially when people from both offramps enter the intersection when there's not enough space to get clear, creating gridlock). Especially fun to try the "hammerhead" when you're pulling a 53 foot trailer.
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      • #4
        We've seen a lot of that; sometimes there won't even be any fair-warning signs until we've almost driven into the cones. And then they never seem to indicate a detour, so you have cars all over the place.

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        • #5
          Locally, they're doing some construction here (also in Mass) and they've got a two lane road that flows into a rotary.

          Of course, the two lanes become one lane roughly 30 ft. before the rotary. They've put up concrete barriers, but no warning signs at all. I watched a state cop come to a screeching halt just before the barriers because he wasn't expecting them. And really, with no signs to indicate otherwise, who would?

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          • #6
            Sounds like a lot of the road construction here in CT, too. I'll be driving along the highway when I'll suddenly see a slow-moving truck ahead of me in the left-hand lane with the blinking "move over" arrow on its back. No warning signs, just the truck, already driving insanely slow in the fast lane.


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            • #7
              I've seen construction barrles that had been hit as they were positioned around a corner of a highway to close a lane. Their was no warning signs before. If I had been int that lane I would have hit them also. Also in MA.

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              • #8
                Been there, seen it, done that. I live in central Worcester County in MA, I've seen my fair share of it. I'm still trying to recover from the mess that was I290 in Worcester a few years ago.

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