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  • Of course I understand... Sir. (long)

    Not sure what brought this to mind, but...

    A good few years ago (gods, how long? 7, 8 years? Maybe?), I was just out of college, with no job pertaining to my actual degree in sight (still don't have one, but I'm not as bitter anymore ), I needed to get a job.

    So, I looked around, and found one which seemed like it would, at the very least, play to my strenghts - answering the phone in the customer service department for cell phones. Now, anyone who's read anything on these boards knows two things: 1) a lot of cell phone owners aren't the brightest, and 2) answering the phone for any form of customer service can be hazardous to your health. Of course, I was young, I was naive, and I didn't despise humanity then as much as I did now.

    Flew through the training course at the start (which was mostly database training. Honestly, they pretty much gave us a biscuit every time we managed to press the correct button on the screen. We were praised for being able to read the onscreen instructions. Pavlov must be proud... argh, back on topic already!). Started answering calls... most of which ended with one of three answers. Either "I'm sorry, I can't help you," "you need to go into the store for that," or "I recommend you call the police."

    For the first, there were a couple of types who heard this. First, those registered their phone in the name of their two year old. When you registered the phone in someones name at this company, that had to be the person who called in the outage. Some would say "oh, I'm Billie," to which we'd respond "so you were born two years ago?" You were stupid enough to do something "cute," and look where it got you. A broken phone no-one will help you with.

    The second type were the "I didn't read the fine print for the ringtone" people - the ones who couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that when it says at the bottom that you'll get a ringtone - and get charged for said ringtone - every week until the end of eternity unless you're good enough to hand over your soul to good ol' Satan, well... they're always the ones who are the most surprised when they end up getting charged. So, simple "nope, not my problem, call the company you bought it from," and they're on their way.

    "You need to go to the store for that" types were those with damaged phones. Our call center was so fabulous we weren't actually allowed to do any sort of tech/troubleshooting for folks. Whatever was broken, even if it was something we understood and could fix, we weren't allowed.

    The more I thought of it, the more I wonder why the hell they actually paid us for anything...

    As for the third type, those were the ones I actually wished I could help. They were the ones getting harrasing phone calls, text messages, photos... there's little more heartwrenching then telling a mother that there is nothing you can do for her 12 year old, who's getting dirty images, messages and voicemails via her cellphone, and having her almost break down on the phone with you. Those folks, I'd point to the police. The police would then work with the company, get the records, etc... again, I wouldn't actually be able to do anything.

    Course, I'm still not sure I agree that 12 years olds should have phones, but that's another matter.

    But the icing on the cake was one of the last calls I took there.

    For reference, this was Ireland. We didn't get many loud Americans on the phone, mostly just loud Irish folks. The fact that he was American had little to do with the story, but this was the day I first had the proof that sucky customers truly transcend borders.

    This guy had been calling in all day, to various different reps. He wanted to know how he should dial to get back through to America. Not from a cell phone, nothing to do with the actual company he was calling, just what he should dial... Most of the people who called in before tried to explain to him that we didn't have that information - that perhaps he would be better calling Directory Inquiries, or perhaps looking in the phone book. In other words, they were doing their jobs.

    Angry Entitlement Man doesn't like this. This makes AEM Angry. AEM Smash.

    So he goes through reps, and they drop like flies before his anger. Or, well, they disconnect him after warning him three times to stop cursing/raving (as I remember, this is something that every call centre in Ireland is required to inform their staff they can do, but, strangely, few do). Of course, I don't know this right now - all I know is that I am really, really tired of people who decided to buy ringtones.

    The call comes through to me, and so the fun begins:

    Me: Welcome to SuchandSuchfone, how can I help you today?
    AEM: I need to know how to dial to America. Can you help me?

    (note the trap... he's polite right now. He's luring me into his web, preparing to devour me hole! Run, young me, run for your life!)

    Me: Yes, sir. On SuchandSuchfone service you di-
    AEM: Oh, no, I just need to know how to dial to America on any old phone.
    Me: You're not a customer of SuchandSuchfone, sir?
    AEM: No, son, I'm not. But I'd still like some help...

    (I have fallen in to the trap! It's too late now - I have decided to be "nice." Curse me.)

    Me: Ok (drawing up google on my computer, preparing to search for the exact term), I'll look it up now, sir. If I remember correctly, when I called to Ireland from Italy..

    (that was me thinking aloud, see. I was thinking maybe it would be similar, and I would be able to confirm it for him. How foolish of me to volunteer something he didn't actually want.)

    AEM: I'm not trying to call Ireland from Italy, son, I want to know how to call the USA.
    Me: I'm sorry, sir, I was just-
    AEM: GODDAMN STUPID *&$^ING PEOPLE, I'VE BEEN ASKING YOU &$#*S ALL DAY HOW TO CALL HOME, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW!
    Me: Sir, if you'll just calm down...
    AEM: AND THERE YOU GO CALLING ME &^$#ING SIR AGAIN! YOU LITTLE &*^$, JUST TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW! NOW!
    Me: B-but, sir-
    AEM: YOU JUST &^%*ING CALLED ME SIR AGAIN! YOU CALL ME SIR AGAIN AND I'LL KILL YOU! JUST TELL ME THE INFO! NOW!

    (Now, a final little pause in the action. I'm fairly certain that this is the point that my mind broke, and I became a true customer service rep. You know, broken of spirit.)

    Me: I'll get right on that for you...
    AEM: THAT'S more like it.
    Me: ... Sir.

    Oh, the sound of that phone hangin up was a sweet, sweet sound. As far as I know, he didn't call back again, and I didn't get in trouble. After all, all I did was call him Sir... which was company policy.

    Only some of the above conversation was paraphrased - given that that was one of the most satisfying "sucky" customers I've ever had to deal with, I remember a great deal of it.

  • #2
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well played!
    "I'm not even supposed to be here today!" Dante-"Clerks"

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    • #3
      I'm glad that when your sanity finally and inevitably broke, you unleashed your vengence responsibly.

      "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - George Patton

      "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        Quoth Dilorenzo View Post
        and I became a true customer service rep. You know, broken of spirit.
        no not broken of spirit, that would be the spineless supervisors that give in to every whim of the SC.

        No you became-the heartless-welcome to humanity! Or what passes for it in cell phone customer service-I'm so heartless I actually have the jacket

        Quoth Dilorenzo View Post
        Me: I'll get right on that for you...
        AEM: THAT'S more like it.
        Me: ... Sir.
        just woke up my husband napping on the couch with the giggle fit that caused
        Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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        • #5
          Let me get this straight: he was being belligerent... in Ireland?

          At least he was on the phone. Had he tried that crap in person he'd have likely woken up covered in bruises and missing a few teeth.

          Which leads me to a wonderful idea. One could, I suppose, have told him that he could actually get help in person, and a free call, by going down to the local pub. One would have to make sure to inform him that in order for him to receive such special treatment he would have to remember this code phrase: "God save the Queen."

          /gross generalization of Irish culture

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          • #6
            Quoth BlaqueKatt View Post
            no not broken of spirit, that would be the spineless supervisors that give in to every whim of the SC.

            No you became-the heartless-welcome to humanity! Or what passes for it in cell phone customer service-I'm so heartless I actually have the jacket

            Off topic but, that link you posted goes to Organization XIII... which is made up of Nobodies not Heartless

            This is a Heartless:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartle...ess_and_Nobody



            Now back on topic: I probably would have just hung up on him right when he threatened to kill me.
            <Insert clever signature here>

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            • #7
              I'm not sure whats worse, the fact that someone being pissed off over being called sir does not surprise me, or the fact that this guy is getting pissed off over being called sir.

              A little aside:

              00 + country code + number OR 011 + country code + number

              This works pretty well world wide as far as I know.

              USA country code is 1 which incidentially is why all long distance calls in the USA are 1 + area code + number

              just google international dialing codes to get a list of the country codes for elsewhere in the world.

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              • #8
                Quoth Chanlin View Post
                00 + country code + number OR 011 + country code + number

                This works pretty well world wide as far as I know.
                011 only works out of north america... I don't know about 00.
                GK/Kara/Jester fangirl.

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                • #9
                  I think I mentioned it here before...I'm pretty sure, anyway. I don't understand what it is with people that get PISSED that you're calling them sir/ma'am. Look, if I get your sex wrong, YES BY ALL MEANS YOU OUGHT TO BE RIGHT PISSED. But come on...you're going to get mad when I'm right? What was I supposed to call you? King Douchebag the 9th? Come now.

                  In any case, the situation I'm directly referring to deals with the bus terminal again when I was doing security. There was this older gentleman that me, another security officer, and both managers were trying to calm down (I think he was off his meds or something). We "assisted" him back into the terminal and kept saying things like "Sir, calm down. Sir, please calm down. Sir...sir...SIR. ZOMG SIR."

                  Anyway, he got fed up with me calling him sir and said something along the lines of "Young man, quit calling me 'SIR!'" To which I responded "Okay, would you rather I call you 'ma'am?'" Yeah, I badgered him with that until he gave up his BS and left. Fun stuff.

                  Me: "Ma'am, you need to calm down."
                  SC: "Why, you little-"
                  Me: "Ma'am, you have been asked to call down several times. Ma'am, are we going to have to call the police?"
                  SC: "..."
                  Me: "Very good, ma'am. Have a nice day."

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Record Store Tough Guy View Post
                    /gross generalization of Irish culture
                    Well, not that gross And really, it depends on the bar.

                    And heh, I wish I had've thought to start calling him Ma'am, that would've been awesome (and have gotten me fired, but hey, I quit not long after anyway).

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Lingering Grin View Post
                      Off topic but, that link you posted goes to Organization XIII... which is made up of Nobodies not Heartless

                      "As Nobodies, they lack emotion and morality, and are unable to feel guilt and remorse for their actions

                      Nobodies are creatures without hearts. They are leftovers "born" in the in-between realm, and exist as the body and soul of people who lost their hearts to darkness. As they lack hearts to possess light or darkness, they are nothing, according to the cosmology of the Kingdom Hearts universe, but still exist. Unlike Heartless, Nobodies are able to attack with definite planning"

                      I know what I linked to
                      Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Dilorenzo View Post
                        Me: I'll get right on that for you...
                        AEM: THAT'S more like it.
                        Me: ... Sir.
                        *slow clap* Bravo!!
                        Unseen but seeing
                        oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                        There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                        3rd shift needs love, too
                        RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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                        • #13
                          Quoth gunsage View Post
                          I think I mentioned it here before...I'm pretty sure, anyway. I don't understand what it is with people that get PISSED that you're calling them sir/ma'am. Look, if I get your sex wrong, YES BY ALL MEANS YOU OUGHT TO BE RIGHT PISSED. But come on...you're going to get mad when I'm right? What was I supposed to call you? King Douchebag the 9th? Come now.
                          I only have this from hearsay, so anyone living or from NE US, please correct me. But what I have been told is that being called 'Ma'am' or 'Sir' is not perceived as a courtesy but is perceived as an insult implying old age, as a cultural thing in NE US.

                          So a Southerner's response to ever-increasing anger in a confrontation of getting more polite & using 'sir' or 'ma'am' more & more just makes things worse. At least that's what happened to a friend in NYC until her friend from NJ stepped in and defused the situation by cussing.

                          But oh, the absolute loveliness of what you did in the OP. It warms the cockles of my heart & brings a smug little grin to my face.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth TryNotToBeThatOne View Post
                            I only have this from hearsay, so anyone living or from NE US, please correct me. But what I have been told is that being called 'Ma'am' or 'Sir' is not perceived as a courtesy but is perceived as an insult implying old age, as a cultural thing in NE US.
                            That can be true in some cases, but it depends on who you are talking to. Some people say "I'm too young to be called ..." while others take it as an insult.

                            I take no offense to being called sir, and I call most people sir or ma'am until they ask me not to. (Which has happened).

                            As far as someone getting madder the more you call them sir or ma'am again, it depends on the context of the situation. For example, my mother was in her early 20's and yelling at someone for jumping into the bushes outside of my grandfather's business, (breaking said bushes) when the kid responded with "Sorry ma'am" it made her mad because she had never been called that before.

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                            • #15
                              But that's just the thing. First off, this guy WAS old. Second, I have done it in ALL my jobs as general courtesy. If someone said something along the lines of "I'm not a SIR. I'm not THAT old." I think I'd be a little baffled as to what to call him. In this case, I didn't bother caring as he was giving us a hard time, but under normal circumstances, I'd have been compelled to ask what he wanted to be called.
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