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  • #16
    Actually if they were ever to be given a chance at redemption they would get a call so bad, so awful that the complaints would never end. Gaining redemption would be understand that they just worked with a version of themselves and then had this revelation that they did wrong.

    But thats if they are ever allowed redemption. I remember watching this one movie and they were walking over the heads of people who were theives and one lady was saying , "But it was only 15%, after my fees." Gotta wonder if she was in the banking business or the stocks business.

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    • #17
      Seems like a "Go to hell" might have been appropriate when she asked for a discount if you could get away with it.
      "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

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      • #18
        Seems like a "Go to hell" might have been appropriate when she asked for a discount if you could get away with it.
        Well there is always paraphrasing Hamlet to get around that.

        "Send your messenger to seek your discount in heaven, if he find it not there then seek it in the other place yourself..."

        (Paraphrase taken from the moment when Hamlet has killed Pelonious and his uncle asks Hamlet wher Pelonious is.)

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        • #19
          Quoth calulu View Post
          The thing she was most annoyed with is the fact that the original agent didn't run her credit card and finish the order after the call dropped. She refused to accept that running someone's credit card without asking for permission and giving them a total is illegal, cussing me out again an again because it was in her words a "stupid company policy" instead of an illegal act.

          I have always had a real problem with mouth/brain filters, which is one reason why there's actually a note in my file that says I'm not to interact with customers unless it can't be avoided. The boss likes me, my supervisor likes me, and I'm good at what I do. But they know better than to let me near the customers. In your shoes, I would likely have blurted something out like "Isn't there some sort of rule, Ma'am, about 'thou shalt not steal'? Why are you unhappy with us for observing it?"


          Quoth calulu View Post
          So after we get all the way through me retaking her order and her being super snippy, hateful and shrieking she asks for a discount because shes a pastor. I declined to give her one even though I could give her several different discount.

          To which I would likely have replied "You're setting a bad example, Ma'am. Wrath is, after all, a sin."

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          • #20
            Quoth Rahmota View Post
            "Send your messenger to seek your discount in heaven, if he find it not there then seek it in the other place yourself..."
            I love love love LOVE that line, that scene, that whole frickin' play. So much good stuff in Hamlet. Yeah, I'm a theatre nerd.

            (paraphrased, since I don't have my Riverside Shakespeare at work)
            "He is at supper. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. E'en now, a group of politic worms are at him..."
            "Even arms dealers need groceries." ~ Ziva David, NCIS

            Tony: "Everyone's counting on you, just do what you do best."
            Abby: "Dance?" ~ NCIS

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            • #21
              Quoth calulu View Post
              I declined to give her one even though I could give her several different discount.
              Ah, abusing what power you have. Sometimes that's all you've got.

              Not telling the customer about a money-saving deal, because he didn't ask about it and he was a jerk to you. Score a point.

              But the best one was a freind who worked a convenience store that still had the old-style register, where you had to type in the price and department for everything. Now in Connecticut (at least back then) there was no sales tax on food. So, for example, milk had no tax. If the guy was a jerk, they'd ring it under a taxable department.
              They couldn't keep the money, the store couldn't keep the money: it was reported as a taxable sale, and the money went to the government, but it cost the customer just a little bit more than it should have. They called it "a$$hole tax".

              Of course, doing that is wrong, and doing it on purpose is probably illegal, but I also thought it was funny and in many ways justice.

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              • #22
                The church groups that stay at the hotel tend to be the biggest SC's. Anytime a church group is coming, I brace myself for overbearing guests and unreasonable requests. No offense to church groups from Texas and Tennessee, but those groups tend to be the suckiest. But to be fair, I met some very nice people from those groups and the friendliest tend to be the younger ones.

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                • #23
                  It always makes me upset and disappointed to hear about "Christian" people and groups behaving so badly. We are supposed to stand out for GOOD behavior - not b/c we call ourselves Christians and then make idiots of ourselves...... so it just makes me sad......

                  Although I wonder what this lady was a "pastor" of..... there are are a lot of religions where a woman isn't allowed a position of "pastor".... they can still be in positions of teaching, but they aren't usually giving sermons and they aren't ordained "pastors"... just makes me wonder if she was really a pastor or if she became one through some internet course or something....... or if she was just completely lying.... I know there are women pastors out there in some religions....but I just find it rare... maybe I'm wrong.....

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                  • #24
                    Quoth air914 View Post
                    but I just find it rare... maybe I'm wrong.....
                    Not rare up here. When my parents attended Anglican church, there were several female pastors/priests/preacher/whatever the term is, and in fact, I believe for a while, the person in charge of the area was female.
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                    • #25
                      Very common with United Methodists also.
                      "English is the result of Norman men-at-arms attempting to pick up Saxon barmaids and is no more legitimate than any of the other results."
                      - H. Beam Piper

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                      • #26
                        Just a reminder about generalizing.

                        I am sure that there are often problems from large church groups attending conferences, or eating in establishments. I'm sure there are problems in dealing with individuals who represent churches in some form.
                        On the other hand, I am sure there are also problems from just plain old large groups attending conferences, or eating in establishments, and with individuals who haven't identified themselves as having an affiliation with any church.

                        I think, because of the "church" or "Christian" aspect, more is expected of people, so when they show their humanness and act like a large majority of the rest of the population, it becomes more noticeable.

                        Just because people become pastors or priests, they don't suddenly develop candidacy for sainthood. That doesn't make them any worse or any more hypocritical than the millions of other people in the world. It makes them human.

                        Sounds like this customer has major entitlement issues and doesn't understand how things work in business. Perhaps having someone steal her credit card info to make an unauthorized purchase will teach her a lesson some day, and then she will understand why businesses don't just go ahead and process a sale after the call is accidentally dropped, even if the customer has just given their credit card details.
                        Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

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                        • #27
                          I had a similar thing, I was still in training and this pastor called me about his cable being out and all, he refused to troubleshoot, got mad at me for verifing information and for not assuming he was who he said he was. He eventually just whined and hung up when I merely told him to try bypassing the box to see if hes got a picture. He refused a tech as well. I would have loved to have said something smart to him, my dads a pastor and never acts like that idiot.



                          PS Posting alot due to a double shift and there is low call volume
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                          • #28
                            I've found that people who feel the need to point out that they are religious always have behavior that indicates the opposite.

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                            • #29
                              unfortunatly there are going to be people in every type of group of people out there no matter who or what they represent that will make the rest of them look horrible and put a bad taste in the people who they offended mouths for the whole lot of who ever they are representing.

                              being a person who helps deal with a some what large local religous group on a regular basis, i have to take in to consideration the actions of our members, my group is small in comparisson to the whole community.

                              the commuinty is larger than we think it is, and the actions of one person will have a ripple effect across the whole lot of the community.

                              this has happend to our group. one of our former members who had been kicked out of several other sub groups (i guess you could call them baised on location) has been causing problems which enevidably made our local group look pretty awful even though he does not associate with us and has been pretty much kicked out of the whole community because of his constant bad behavior.

                              all of these other groups in the community know of his bad behavior yet they will still look down on us because of the lies that he told about our group

                              basicly what im saying just cause some entitlement whore decides that they deserve something because of who they are or who they represent doesnt mean that the rest of them are like that.

                              as far as entitlement whores that i have come across, i worked with one religous one, and the one that i had that i came across at work, who used his status in the military i actually made a thread about here, which has since been locked because of time.
                              "Let's connect to some ones cyberbrain who is meditating, so we can download enlightenment" one of the Tachikomas (Ghost in the Shell 2nd gig)

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