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"I don't care if he's in a wheelchair, I was here first!"
I'm the type of person who believes in equality. I don't care what kind of person they are, disabled or otherwise, if they've been there first, they get served first.
My thoughts exactly. From my experience, most people with disabilities do not want special treatment as it makes them feel unequal and causes attention to be brought to them. Unless the man in the wheelchair had a condition that made it impossible for him to wait in a line, then he should take his turn like everyone else. In this case, though, he had.
This man COULD have stayed at the teller window and filled out all the paperwork (like a typical SC would do) thereby monopolizing a teller and slowing down the line for everyone else. Instead, he allowed other people to go in front of him until he was ready to complete his transaction. A very polite thing for him to have done. When his paperwork was completed, he merely stopped allowing people to go in front of him and took his rightful place back at the teller window.
And yes, grabbing a person's wheelchair in the manner the SC did IS a criminal assault in my state as the wheelchair is seen as an extension of the person while it is in use. The SC is lucky the man did not press chrages.
Last edited by Ree; 05-02-2008, 02:21 AM.
Reason: Excessive quoting
"Ignorance is no excuse for a law." .................................................. ..................- Alfred E. Newman
Just when you think you had heard everything. You know, I was actually waiting to read about when the old man got up to knock SC's block off. That is just appalling that someone like that simply has no respect for those who are less fortunate. And, after grabbing the old man's wheelchair handles, then shoving him aside......I don't know, I think that would have been grounds for assault charges. It's hard to get involved in something like that though. It could always come back to haunt you.
Ok..quick review..For those of you to know me, My Wife is in a Wheelchair, and as a result we have seen people at their worse.
Frankly (and sadly) the way the SC acted doesn't really surprise me. Nothing amazing us more, on how some of the population act around people with Wheelchairs.
My Wife has be run over by people walking, farted at (head is at butt level), had people reach over her, been blocked from her van because people park in those striped area next to the handicap spots, had someone pushed a shopping cart right in front of her, and walked off, so they didn't have to wait for someone to move, almost been sat on a number of times (Dude..didn't you see someone SITTING in that chair!! ..), Been blocked from going into a number of stores, because some lazy ass idiot parked on the curb cut, or ramp just to name a few...
One of the major sins with me wife is to touch her chair. The only people that are allowed to are Family and Friends, and the occasional health care worker. Otherwise HANDS OFF.
Now..if he was to do that with my wife, He would be needing to pick himself up from the floor, because if I didn't slug him, I would've at least pulled him off the chair, and threw him to the ground or body check him. Anything to get him away from my wife.
The Bank teller and Manager, acted very professionally in this matter, and as a result, we would go out of the way just to bank there.
Ok..quick review..For those of you to know me, My Wife is in a Wheelchair, and as a result we have seen people at their worse.
Frankly (and sadly) the way the SC acted doesn't really surprise me. Nothing amazing us more, on how some of the population act around people with Wheelchairs.
My Wife has be run over by people walking, farted at (head is at butt level), had people reach over her, been blocked from her van because people park in those striped area next to the handicap spots, had someone pushed a shopping cart right in front of her, and walked off, so they didn't have to wait for someone to move, almost been sat on a number of times (Dude..didn't you see someone SITTING in that chair!! ..), Been blocked from going into a number of stores, because some lazy ass idiot parked on the curb cut, or ramp just to name a few...
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Oh, I've seen things like this. A while back, I ate at a Sonny's with my family, and this man was leaving with his wife in a wheelchair. The wife was literally slouched with her leg elevated, and it had a cast around it. It looked at if she had been in a car accident or something. Anyway, while this man was trying to get out with his wife, nobody around would help him with holding the door open. I saw this and immediately went over to help out, and he was grateful, telling me, "Oh, thanks. This is her first night out in nine months", to which I said "Well, congratulations, and I hope you're recovery continues nicely."
It's a damned shame when you have others who don't want to be bothered with helping out someone in need.
The jerk in the OP needs to start banking on line if the only time he has is his lunch hour to go there. That's when everybody goes, there's gonna be a line-up. And he obvioulsy doesn't have the patience to wait without becomming a total ass. What a menace.
If I were one of the customers in line behind this twat monkey, I'd have punched him in the face and thrown him out of the bank myself. You do NOT do shit like that to a guy in a wheelchair.
I'm sensing a coward myself, you wouldn't even need to hit him. If anyone else had stepped out of the line and confronted this guy I think he would have caved, particularily if it was someone who could actually stand.
The bank staff poised no real threat to him, or at least he thought.
Personally he would have two strikes with me:
He abused a veteran and he abused a handicapped person.
Even if he wasn't handicapped, I'd be inclined to backup a fellow veteran who was getting shown no respect.
Plus, I don't care how old he was, those WWII were hardcore. I bet he could have cleaned the floor with that SC despite the age difference.
I'm the type of person who believes in equality. I don't care what kind of person they are, disabled or otherwise, if they've been there first, they get served first.
This is the first post that cuts to the core issue.
It's first come, first served. That one guy is in a wheelchair doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Or that he's a veteran.
The bank should have made it clear to the jerk that wheelchair dude is being served first because he was there first and is only now coming forward to complete his transaction. That's all that matters.
My dad's a 100% disabled veteran and I gave all the sympathy and respect in the world for those guys.
But if you think I'm going to let someone play the disabled vet card against me as a way to cut in line, think again.
The post office is pretty good with this problem. They tell customers to fill out paperwork off to the side while the clerk helps the next guy -- but that they can come right up the counter when they're finished and the clerk will complete their transaction.
And the clerk is pretty clear about saying that the person wo appears to be cutting in line did actually wait his turn earlier.
That's what the bank needed to tell the jerk. Not muddy it up by making it sound as though wheelchair dude was beign allowed to cut in line. Because he's in a wheelchair. Or because he's a veteran.
Last edited by Ree; 05-02-2008, 02:17 AM.
Reason: Excessive quoting
I agree. Him being in a wheelchair or being a veteran is insignificant in this case. He was there first and should be served first. It is, however, pretty unfortunate that the SC felt like he could take the wheelchair and push it out of his way.
I agree. Him being in a wheelchair or being a veteran is insignificant in this case. He was there first and should be served first. It is, however, pretty unfortunate that the SC felt like he could take the wheelchair and push it out of his way.
I agree with you with one small exception. In some places that we have been to (Typically events) with long lines. The problem is, the lines are routed in such a way that they go over steps, stairs, or are roped off in such a away that you can't physically get a chair through. The first solution that we do is to have me go through the line like a normal, and when we get to the point that my wife can join the line with me, she will get in line with me. Normally the people behind us are fine with this. On other cases, the staff will have us basically line jump and go to the front (In the twelve years we have been together, I think it's only happed twice) but like I said, that's only if we can't physically get the chair through the line. otherwise, we wait our turn.
Wow. I bet that guy went to work and told all his coworkers about what a badass he is and whatnot.
Unseen but seeing oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv 3rd shift needs love, too
RIP, mo bhrionglóid
Hey folks, got an update on this one for you, thanks to my friend:
- After the SC left, the manager asked the old man if he wanted to press charges because if so, he'd gladly call the police, but the old man declined, saying he didn't need the aggravation.
- Also I doubt corporate will be doing much for this SC as the manager wrote a full account of the incident and sent it, along with the security camera recording of the incident, to his superior at corporate. This was pretty much immediately after it happened, before any complaint to corporate had even been received.
"If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant
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