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  • Don't you hate it when people lie.

    In the average every day run of the mill this post is about a very minor incident. What boils my blood here is how often it happens.

    Small background. I work for a prepaid wireless provider. I handle a myriad of duties one of which is to facilitate local number portability requests. For those who are not familiar with it, local number portability is a process by which you are able to keep your telephone number if you change from one provider to another. This is a requirement of US Telecommunications laws and while there is no legally mandated turn around time, the industry standard, which the FCC takes fairly seriously, is 3 hours for a response time window to any request.

    So anyway, I had one of our dealers call in to check a porting request. He says the request was issued yesterday afternoon and had not been responded to yet. I however know the no response to it yet is a lie because I personally responded to ALL of our pending port out requests as soon as I started my shift. In fact its one of the first things I check with my co-workers every shift since there is the time sensitive window to responses. The rest of the story is in dialog form.

    Dealer (hereafter D): It was submitted yesterday and <new provider> says they are waiting on a response for it yet.

    Me: Ok, well I know I personally responded to all of our pending requests first thing this morning so if it was submitted yesterday then it's already been responded to.

    D: I just spoke with them about 10 minutes ago and they say it hasn't been responded to yet.

    Me: *sighing because I know someone here is lying, either the dealer or the new provider* Ok, whats the number.

    D: 555-123-4567

    Me: Ok, I see here the timestamp on the request is today at 4:30 PM. This is also the first instance of a port out request for this phone number. *I confirm the request, IE I release the number to the new provider* I've also issued a response to that request just now. Did you have any other questions today?

    D: Why did it take so long for a response?

    Me: I'm not sure sir, but the timestamp indicates that it was submitted for the first time today at 4:30PM, this indicates to me that it has been 30 minutes since the request was issued. We are well within the industry standard window of 3 hours.

    D: But it was submitted yesterday.

    Me: Sir, far be it from me to suggest someone in this matter is lying, but as I just mentioned the date and timestamp indicates that the request was submitted today at 4:30 for the first time. I also know that I personally responded to each port out request we had pending when I got in at 2:00PM. In any case, who did what, or why is a non-issue at this point as a response to the current request for the phone number has been issued. (I admit I failed at keeping an irritated tone out of my voice).

    D: Ok, thank you, and I might I suggest you need to chill out. *click*

    Me:

    As I said, in the end the whole situation itself really is minor. It just pisses me off that either the dealer, or the new provider would lie like this. I mean if its the provider how hard is it to say, sorry we messed up, no one submitted the request yesterday. If its the dealer lying, well I can always hope to be able to force choke people over the phone

  • #2
    I get liars like that all the time at my job. Customers will call and inform us that they have been waiting 2 weeks for their appliance and we can pull up their info on the warranty system and see that they placed the claim maybe 3 days ago. On the rare occasion when we HAVE been 2 weeks or more, it's been because we've left message after message on the provided phone numbers.
    "If looks could really kill, my occupation would be staring" Brand New - I Will Play My Game Beneath The Spin Light

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    • #3
      I'll get liars when people have pick-ups coming in. They'll order it, say, Wednesday, and call in the next day and ask if it's in, and whine "But I've been waiting a MONTH!" when I rung them out myself not even 12 hours ago.

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      • #4
        [cynical]

        D: Ok, thank you, and I might I suggest you need to chill out. *click*
        Trans:

        "I'm going to try to turn the tables and get angry at YOU for catching me in my lie and calling me on it."

        [/cynical]


        Even worse is when (Like this one, unless HIS end of the conversation was being overheard by the customer, in which case he's saving his ass.) the lie is POINTLESS! Why not call you, say "Hey, listen - I think I spaced on a customer's number change yesterday - can you port it now?" Reasonable, up front, etc. It's not like you're gonna see him later at a bar and point and laugh - "HA! Look! It's the jamoke who screwed up the number request......."

        I just don't get it.

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        • #5
          People cannot admit they made a mistake. Some people, anyway. There is no way the average Joe is ringing anybody and saying "Hey listen, I spaced on this ... can you fix it for me?"

          Way too mature for most of the dopes out there.

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          • #6
            What honestly irritates me more is how put out people act that the process can take 3 hours. During the process the phone remains on with the old provider. When its done it gets activated with the new provider. On some rare occasions their is about a 1 to 2 hour gap between the old being shut off and the new being turned on and some people get all huffy and try to demand compensation for the 1 or 2 hours they had no service.

            The kicker to this is as a new account we give them 100 minutes for a trial run. If they don't like the service they can port out to another provider at no cost. So the only cost to them is the time spent porting the number to us.

            I give bonus points if they whine about losing money because their customers can't reach them or they just can't live without their precious.... I mean their phone.

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            • #7
              Oh wow... 3 hours?

              Here, if you have a prepaid number or a number, where you "refuel" minutes on the providers webpage, a porting will take around 1-2 weeks. If you have a subscription with a provider, you will have a 30-day cancellation period, which means the porting will take 5-6 weeks! This process also involves sending out a new SIM.

              So... 3 hours? All my customers would be thrilled, even though it took a day longer..

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              • #8
                Quoth Chanlin View Post
                What honestly irritates me more is how put out people act that the process can take 3 hours. During the process the phone remains on with the old provider. When its done it gets activated with the new provider. On some rare occasions their is about a 1 to 2 hour gap between the old being shut off and the new being turned on and some people get all huffy and try to demand compensation for the 1 or 2 hours they had no service.
                I get stuff like this all the time... when people add data services, (i.e. blackberry internet, etc.) we advise them it takes 2 to 48 hours. Typically, it's up and running within the first few hours, but I've had "Mr. Entitlement" pop up occasionally, "how dare you make me pay when it's not active yet." I mean, seriously, we're talking what... 60 cents spent if it takes a full day to go active to begin with? I've even had people get upset about 2 hours... give it a break people.

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                • #9
                  If I make a mistake at my job - or in life in general - I make sure that I accept full responsibility. Yes, it sucks, but in the long run, I feel better about myself. Its not always easy either. Being honest helps me to better learn from mistakes than keep repeating them. Because if there is some consequence for a mistake, but I don't receive it because I lie to cover my ass - I haven't really learned not to repeat that mistake. On the flip side, if I suffer some consequences, I'm less likely to do whatever it is again.
                  "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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                  • #10
                    Quoth friendofjimmyk View Post
                    If I make a mistake at my job - or in life in general - I make sure that I accept full responsibility. Yes, it sucks,
                    A great attitude we all should have. What riles me about this thread though (and IRL in general) is people who lie about mistakes where there really aren't any consequences or for no apparent reason at all.

                    I see it all the time at work. If I'm planning out who needs to do what for closing down I'll ask "Did you do such and such?" People will say yes when they haven't. Even though they weren't assigned it, or it isn't really their task. You're NOT IN TROUBLE! Say NO!!!

                    BTW, did you just change your avatar? Early afternoon on 08/25?

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