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  • #16
    As most of everyone knows on this board, my heart goes out to the homeless. I think it's very nice of you to have given this man a sandwich despite the policy. However, it is policy not to serve people from this population, so you may have consequences to face.

    I don't think what you did is an arrestable offense unless your owner is as big of a douchebag as the porsche driving fucktwit.

    Let us know how it turns out.
    "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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    • #17
      While hearing about you helping Milford is probably one of the nicest things I've heard in quite some time, I can see the point of it being theft. I wish you the best with whatever the outcome is.

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      • #18
        To the Porche guy: Sir, you seem to be confusing riches with class. The former you have in spades, but the latter you're sorely lacking.

        To the TC: I'm going to have to agree with what others have said on this board. The heart was in the right place, but since that was not your food, it's not your decision what you do with it.
        To right the countless wrongs of our days... We shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise...Oh, what a wonderful world such would be...

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        • #19
          Add me in with the others who admire your big heart and wishes to help with the less fortunate, but think it's risky and not the smartest thing to put your job on the line for a homeless man.

          Next time Milford comes in, I'd politely tell him that you cannot give him any more free food, and give him the number of a soup kitchen or church.
          You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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          • #20
            Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
            No, the self-important cockbag was not right to scream at you for serving the homeless guy.

            However, chances are good that the owner is going to find out you were giving his food away for free, and you'd kinda be in Fucksville at that point.
            I think that about sums up my thoughts, too. (But I'm going to elaborate anyway.)

            Although, I have read many, many stories on this board from Subway employees who make a sandwich for a customer only to have the customer get mad about the price (though they should have seen it coming) or some perceived injustice of some kind and leave, abandoning their order, which now cannot be sold to anybody else. Nijiero, if you have similar customers, perhaps you could put their rejected sandwiches into the cooler and give them to Milford. It wouldn't be his preferred sandwich, but it would still be more food than he had when he came in.

            On a few occasions, we did similar stuff at the pizza place where I worked in high school when people failed to pick up their order or called in a prank that we didn't catch, only we'd deliver some of the leftovers to families we knew were having a hard time.

            Quoth Nijiero View Post
            SISC- Yeah, you can get me the owners number. I'm going to have you fired for serving that disgusting hobo before the line of paying customers.
            ...
            SISC: Shut the hell up and get me the number. And YOU ::he points at my Pregnant Co-worker who is working the veggies of the customer that was ahead of him:: make me my sandwich, since this guy won't be working here anymore.
            Regardless of whether you lose your job or not, I still want to... Well, let's just say that I wish some very unpleasant experiences on this SC. I don't care what the circumstances are. No customer has the right to tell an employee, "I'm going to have you fired." That's not their decision. They can complain all they want, but "Terminated Employee" is not on the menu.

            Besides, even if you do lose your job over the Milford incident, it won't be because you "served that disgusting hobo before the line of paying customers." I doubt you'll get fired anyway, since the core of the SC's complaint is obviously going to be about his inconvenience (having to wait an extra minute for his sandwich!) and not about you giving away food.
            I suspect that... inside every adult (sometimes not very far inside) is a bratty kid who wants everything his own way.
            - Bill Watterson

            My co-workers: They're there when they need me.
            - IPF

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            • #21
              Hey, everyone.. thanks for all the comments... yeah, like I said, I never even thought about it from that angle...
              Fortunatelly, I did not have to wait long at all for an answer, so I have not had to endure the "Suspense is Killing Me" phase of whether or not something is actually going to happen. I was called early this morning and asked to come to the Owners Office, which I returned from a short while ago. (the owner has about 14 stores, requiring a central office to run things from)
              Yes, he called the Owner. Yes, he told the entire incident. They confirmed this on the Stores Security Cameras.
              And as it turns out, the franchise owner is not a raving money-fiend. He told this man that while I was violating company policy, he had no business causing such a scene in his store, over feeding a homeless man. As I understand it, the words Douche-Bag WERE used during the conversation.
              When I arrived, I spoke with him, his wife, and the two district managers.
              As for me, I was scolded for violating this policy, however, a strange source came to my defence... Franchise Owners Wife. She works in his office, with him, they're co-owners, it seems, and she told me after the meeting that she said I was a "Very Good Person" for taking care of Milford, as long as it prevented him from causing problems. However, as Stated in the beggining, it was pointed out that while what I was doing what was right, I had not paid for the food I had given out.
              At the end of this Episode, I am to be fined a total of $150 dollars backpay for the food I have given out to Milford over the weeks, to be taken from my next 4 paychecks in increments, and I have been suspended from work for 1 week. All in all, for my own oversights, taking liberty's with someone elses stock, I consider this getting off easy. I was not Demoted, and there was no Yelling that I heard of.
              So, I'll pick up a few extra hours at my other job next week, to even things out, and life shall return to normal... and I'll try THINKING before I do stuff, from now on.

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              • #22
                yeah guys, i agree with you all about the whole paying for it thing too. it was just very late last night when i posted so was not able to think clearly. What i meant ot come across was something more like,You do the right thing, including finding some way to pay for that sandwich.

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                • #23
                  Does the complaining idiot even know that the food wasn't paid for ? I thought his complaint was just that you served the homeless man ahead of him, and your response was just that you did it to get him out of the shop quicker. That doesn't mean he didn't pay for his food. Hopefully that won't even be an issue.

                  What an idiot. I work somewhere where our service is free - but have a regular client who I often see out of turn. No one has ever objected. I do it because if he's left in the waiting room for too long and is having a bad day he can distress everyone, including once having a loud argument with himself. Sometimes it just makes sense to deal with someone as a priority for everyones sake.

                  But yes you need to either pay for the sandwich yourself or clear giving it away with someone higher up. I think at this point I'd pay if necessary just to stop idiot in a suit and almost regardless of whether I could afford it.

                  I think you should hope the person he speaks to is as as contrary as I am If someone phoned me up telling me I would be firing someone I'd be promoting them even if otherwise I'd be the first to suggest them losing their job. The arrogance of that is outstanding and unlike a complainant who just says why they're unhappy very likely to annoy the person he's complaining too.

                  Good luck.

                  Victoria J

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                  • #24
                    What a self-important, worthless piece of humanity! If there's any justice in the world, that douchebag will find himself on the other side of a soup kitchen line, one day -- and I hope somebody complains about him!

                    I think his whole little routine was designed to let everyone know how 'important' he was.

                    Bastard! I hope nothing happens to you, Nijiero.
                    Who hears all your prayers? Why, the NSA, of course!

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                    • #25
                      I wouldn't call that stealing. I'd call it the price of doing business downtown. We used to do it all the time at Kinko's.

                      I think we know who's side karma is going to be on.

                      Were you wrong? No. If management has a problem with what you did, is that wrong? No. It wasn't your food to give, but I don't think in this case you were wrong to give it. Sometimes there is a "right and wrong" bigger than the "apparent right and wrong". Did that make any sense at all?

                      As for cockbag, well, he'll get his. He's already getting his, he's him. Being him sucks.

                      If your managment gets mad, offer to pay him. If he fires you, well, you don't really want to work for a guy who does not value compassion in his employees anyways.

                      You rock. If you lose your job (which I doubt will happen) you will still rock. I don't want to get into theology or anything like that, but I would consider that you have held hands with the divine. Mr Porche? Forget him. He's not fit to shine your shoes. He's not fit to shine Milford's shoes.

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                      • #26
                        I think your heart was in the right place,
                        and, not only that, but it shows that you
                        were actually thinking of others besides
                        Milford, in the sense that if the poor guy
                        smells that bad, it's only fair to get him
                        fed and then the heck out of there.
                        I mean, I can only imagine the regular
                        customers are glad you have the common
                        sense to both HELP SOMEONE IN NEED,
                        and also make sure he's not fouling out the
                        place for the paying customers.

                        The rich asshole has something terrible in
                        store for him.

                        If something happens to you, and I don't know
                        how this works on the board, but I'll personally be
                        glad to write a letter of reference or character
                        testimony for you.
                        Herewith, a nugget of wisdom from the very wise Mike Brady: "Alone, we can only move buckets. But if we work together, we can drain rivers."

                        --
                        mannabozo.wordpress.com

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                        • #27
                          i kinda feel this way about it

                          stealing for pleasure (like an ipod, chocolate cake, cash) is wrong

                          stealing as a last resort to stay alive (basic food, water etc) isn't wrong. everyone has a right to live

                          i'm not sure how corporate would feel about that, but i'd like to think they'd see beyond the numbers in a situation like that.

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                          • #28
                            I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the obvious. That is, the Porsche owner...seems to be "compensating" for something

                            Seriously though, as noble as trying to help the homeless is, you have to be careful. The food wasn't yours to give--it would be very easy for the shop owner to fire you for it. Also, with the policy in place, he'd be justified in doing so.
                            Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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                            • #29
                              What I would have done is tell mr small dick man to fuck off(in nice customer friendly terms of course) and then walked over and rung up the homeless mans sub.And then reach into your own pocket and pull out a 5.00 and put in the register.I would then printed out a reciept. Then prick wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I wouldn't worry about it,you might just have to end up paying for it.

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                              • #30
                                I'm really glad it turned out OK for you.

                                It was just one of those situations where you were doing the wrong thing for the right reason and didn't think of the consequences.

                                That can happen to anybody. It's called being a human being.

                                Which is more than I can say for that douchebag of an SC.
                                The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

                                The stupid is strong with this one.

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