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  • #16
    Quoth Skeksin View Post
    I would counter anyone that wanted to charge me personally for not knowing is the fact that it requires training to spot a good fake ID and neither the Employing company nor the government have seen fit to provide it.
    I couldn't agree more. I think thats one reason why they haven't pulled that shit over here yet (or it's not happend to anyone I know of atleast)

    I would be interested to meet someone it happens to though, just to see how far we could drag various officials through the muck
    -The one, The Only, AdvancedFlea-

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    • #17
      Quoth AdvancedFlea View Post
      I couldn't agree more. I think thats one reason why they haven't pulled that shit over here yet (or it's not happend to anyone I know of atleast)
      A lot of fake/novelty IDs are very close to the real thing. As long as the ID isn't so fake that a three year old could spot it (i.e. a bit of card with "I'm 18" written on it) it's really quite easy to prove you've shown due diligence. I've never known anyone be pinged for accepting a fake ID.
      A PSA, if I may, as well as another.

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      • #18
        All we've got is Larry Barker scaring people with his nose from time-to-time.

        Quoth elsporko View Post
        but I've heard of ones where they use fake IDs, sometimes very good ones, and penelize the store for thinking the fake ID is real. That seems like its stepping over the line. The store should be rewarded for at least trying.
        Quoth AdvancedFlea View Post
        I think you'll probibly find their arguement is "the person should know what a real one looks like" which is a stupid arguement I know. They've not tried that over here yet. probibly because they know they would never get away with it.
        Quoth crazylegs View Post
        A lot of fake/novelty IDs are very close to the real thing. As long as the ID isn't so fake that a three year old could spot it (i.e. a bit of card with "I'm 18" written on it) it's really quite easy to prove you've shown due diligence. I've never known anyone be pinged for accepting a fake ID.
        I've never heard of it happening in the US, either. You've got 50 states each with it's own design on a driver's license. There's no way for everyone to know what all of them look like.

        Right now, and for some time to come, New Mexico has two versions floating around. The new ones are flimsy as hell and seem kind of fake and some of the MVD offices around the state made some of the old ones that are very dodgy looking.

        Quoth AdvancedFlea View Post
        lol. I've seen people do that. I was kinda forced to go in my own mind "do you know how much ___KG actually weighs, idiot?"
        Uh....it weighs ___ kg?

        BTW, I love the use of "muppet" as an insult!
        Last edited by Pagan; 04-25-2010, 05:19 PM.
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        • #19
          Quoth Pagan View Post
          Uh....it weighs ___ kg?
          Nah, it weighs (approximately) ___ * 9.81 N, or ___ * 2.2 lb .

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          • #20
            We don't even get threats to the media here...

            If they did, they'd have three options:

            1) Ring the paper and then waste more time for the reporter to come over and write up their story.
            2) Ring the tabloid TV programs. Waste more time bitching about the situation.
            3) write it up in the papers.

            We all get threats to the ACCC
            The best professors are mad scientists! -Zoom

            Now queen of USSR-Land...

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            • #21
              Quoth fireheart17 View Post
              We don't even get threats to the media here...

              If they did, they'd have three options:

              1) Ring the paper and then waste more time for the reporter to come over and write up their story.
              2) Ring the tabloid TV programs. Waste more time bitching about the situation.
              3) write it up in the papers.

              We all get threats to the ACCC
              Actually there is in Adelaide....Leon Byner on 5AA is very much a consumer advocate, he has a fairly good reputation, but more importantly he has a consumer lawyer come on a a guest every week. And he wont suggest anything/or get involved unless the customer is very much in the right. Then he will simply tell you where to go to get more information/make a complaint.

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              • #22
                Quoth Pagan View Post
                <Other quotes were here>
                I've never heard of it happening in the US, either. You've got 50 states each with it's own design on a driver's license. There's no way for everyone to know what all of them look like.
                I know when I was last in the States (well, any time, actually) I would use my Irish issued passport as ID. It got some very funny looks, mainly because staff were not used to looking at them and our dates go DD/MM/YYYY. Of course, I would have no problem pointing out what is what.

                It does prove though, that even with the best will in the world, no person can know what every real ID looks like.

                C.
                Nothing in this world will ever be truly idiot-proof as long as they keep making more effective idiots... -EricKei

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                • #23
                  Quoth Pagan View Post
                  Right now, and for some time to come, New Mexico has two versions floating around. The new ones are flimsy as hell and seem kind of fake and some of the MVD offices around the state made some of the old ones that are very dodgy looking.
                  There's two NJ ones right now too, because not all of the old style have expired yet.
                  It's little things that make the difference between 'enjoyable', 'tolerable', and 'gimme a spoon, I'm digging an escape tunnel'.

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                  • #24
                    Quoth crazylegs View Post
                    (i.e. a bit of card with "I'm 18" written on it)
                    Damn. thats my Fake ID business out the window.

                    Quoth Pagan View Post
                    BTW, I love the use of "muppet" as an insult!
                    heh, thats pretty common over here along with other common words and a few....not so common. My favorite is "SpecTard" (as in "Special" and Retard)

                    "Gregg you Spectard, how have you managed to fuck this one up this time?!" ( <-- actual quote from our tech center)

                    Quoth fireheart17 View Post

                    1) Ring the paper and then waste more time for the reporter to come over and write up their story.
                    2) Ring the tabloid TV programs. Waste more time bitching about the situation.
                    3) write it up in the papers.
                    ours are pretty much the same. It's just that you have Ed Doolan (locally to us) and Watchdog (Nationally)
                    -The one, The Only, AdvancedFlea-

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                    • #25
                      Quoth AdvancedFlea View Post
                      I got lucky once and saw a trading standards sting coming, quite litterally. A story for another time, perhaps lol.
                      Ooh,
                      *Grabs popcorn & waits eagerly for the thread to start*
                      "You can only try so hard to look like you are working before actually doing your work seems easy in comparison" -My Boss

                      CW: So what exactly do you do in retentions?
                      Me: ummm, I ....retent stuff?

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                      • #26
                        Quoth AdvancedFlea View Post
                        heh, thats pretty common over here along with other common words and a few....not so common. My favorite is "SpecTard" (as in "Special" and Retard)

                        "Gregg you Spectard, how have you managed to fuck this one up this time?!" ( <-- actual quote from our tech center)
                        You guys have got waaaaay more creative names to call each other than we do.
                        It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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                        • #27
                          I probably shouldn't be telling you this...
                          But we have help http://www.viz.co.uk/profanisaurus.html

                          And yes there is an app for that

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                          • #28
                            Quoth plan9au View Post
                            Actually there is in Adelaide....Leon Byner on 5AA is very much a consumer advocate, he has a fairly good reputation, but more importantly he has a consumer lawyer come on a a guest every week. And he wont suggest anything/or get involved unless the customer is very much in the right. Then he will simply tell you where to go to get more information/make a complaint.
                            I don't know how many people even listen to 5AA here.
                            Still, that sounds like the guy I'd wanna meet as it fits in with my own views most of the time-if the customer IS right, then i'd tell them to lodge a complaint...
                            The best professors are mad scientists! -Zoom

                            Now queen of USSR-Land...

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                            • #29
                              Quoth Darkforge View Post
                              *Grabs popcorn & waits eagerly for the thread to start*
                              heh, It's only a short story. It may be combined in a thread with other short stories from the time I served at a petrol station when I write it Sadly my time at the petrol station had nothing quite as epic as vinigar boy.

                              Quoth Pagan View Post
                              You guys have got waaaaay more creative names to call each other than we do.
                              God, you should have heard the names me and my brother used to come up with for eachother. Ian (Brother) once came out with the world "Umalalamacaronilala" when asked "The fuck does that mean?" he replies with "It means Flea is an arselick" ... we picked on eachother a lot. We still do

                              Quoth Bunny the Veggie Slayer View Post

                              And yes there is an app for that
                              KILL THE IPHONE USER! *Stabs BtVS*
                              -The one, The Only, AdvancedFlea-

                              Stick that in your blog and smoke it.

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