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  • Smiley's 12 rules to not irritate your relay operator

    OK, some have asked me if I truly don't get sucky deaf users since my posts seem to be predominently about the hearing user. I will confess there is two reasons for this, the first (and more important reason) is that there is a lot more confidentiallity concerns about the interaction between the deaf users and me than there is between the hearing user and me. The second one is that most of the problems are pet peeves, not so much a blatant example of suck.

    So, since it has been requested, here are my SC deaf users, in the form of instructional manual

    Rule 1: Don't be so fracking lazy. It takes to keystrokes and 1 second to respond "no" to the question "would you like to place another call". I know that you know that we will disconnect after three minutes of inactivity anyway, but that is three minutes that someone else may potentially have to wait because you can't be arsed to type a two letter word.

    Rule 2: Smiley's rule of diminishing returns- As a rule, the success rate for getting someone to pick up on a redial is 1 out of 10 for the first redial, 1 out of 100 for the second, 1 out of 1000 for the third, and so on. I have never had someone pick up after a 5th redial... so please for the love of all things holy, stop asking for repeated redials, THEY WILL NOT WORK!

    Rule 3: The answer to a yes or no question is, will you believe it, either yes or no. If I ask "would you like to leave a message" the correct answer is not "555-555-5555", the correct way to say that is no, I will disconnect the call and ask if you would like to place another call, in which time it is appropriate to give me another phone number. It takes two keystrokes and adds 15 seconds to the call... just do it. One of these days I'll take you at your word that is the message you want to leave and redial to leave the message and leave nothing but that phone number.

    Rule 4: This is also answering machine related. I know what I'm doing, if I say "dialing" and then say "an answering machine has picked up" I didn't forget to relay that the phone was ringing, IT DID NOT RING. Asking me to redial will do you absolutely nothing, it still aint going to ring. Bitching that I'm not relaying the rings won't gain you support either, because as has been mentioned, IT WAS NOT RINGING.

    Rule 5: There is no "live representative" button on the phone. If you ask me to find one, I will do my best... but, don't be surprised when I tell you that I am unable to do so. A lot of menus require that you enter account numbers, phone numbers, or at least select which department you want. I'm sorry that it isn't fair that you can't just be connected directly with a live representative, but guess what, us hearing people can't either, so deal with it.

    Rule 6: We use common english commands for our calls. We do this because the GA/SK standard has so many different variations that it is much easier for you to just tell us what you want done and for us to just tell you what we are doing. That said, if you do prefer to use a GA/SK standard, please be understanding that we deal with multiple variations, we may not understand your request immediately as we try to remember what it means in your particular variation.

    Rule 7: On that note, if you are going to insist on using GA/SK, please use it properly. There are two variations for placement, one is either on a separate line after the end of what you want to say, or on the last line of what you want to say. DO NOT put it at the end of each and every line. It is a message ender, not a punctuation mark.

    Rule 8: If it is in paranthesis we will not add GA to the end of it... I don't care what our competitors do, even when we are using GA/SK, a paranthese end assumes end of message. Don't bitch that we don't add GA to the end.

    Rule 9: Please try to use proper grammar/spelling. I understand that speed is important and shorthand needs to be used. Common abbreviations and acronyms are fine (eg. ily, ttyl, tmr, addy, assoc, etc), text speek on the other hand is likely to have your message misrelayed... once again, don't bitch to me that you don't know how to communicate properly.

    Rule 10: I don't care why you are making the phone call... my job is the same no metter what. By all means, tell me that you want to speak to John Smith and I'll make sure that it is John Smith that gets on the line, but don't go on and on about "I need to talk to John about going boating this Saturday up at the lake with Steve and Bill" I.DO.NOT.CARE. This is your phone call, not mine, you can do with it as you please... any explanation you give to me will not change the course of the call or how I handle it, so stop wasting both of our times and just let me get about doing my job.

    Rule 11: If I ask "are you there" I'm not really asking you a question, I'm checking the connection. If you see that question during a call, don't answer yes and nothing else, respond to the last message, "are you there" is our gentle way of saying hey moron, you're taking too long to type.

    Rule 12: TURN OFF YOUR DAMNED CAPS LOCK


    Those are my 12 rules for not irritating your relay operator, more may be added at a later date.
    If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

  • #2
    GA/SK refers to "Go ahead" and the SK or SKSK?

    Do you have such a list for receivers of relay calls? As a CSR I've gotten a couple and wondered if I did anything wrong. The first one I probably did; the operator had to keep reminding me to end with a go-ahead and slow down, etc. I was a noob. :P

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    • #3
      Quoth Jack View Post
      GA/SK refers to "Go ahead" and the SK or SKSK?
      depending on who you ask, SK either stands for "stop keying" or "silent key" (with stop keying being the more prevelant answer... silent key is something that goes way back to the days of the telegraph and was used to physically interupt the signal to allow for a disconnect, stop keying means just that... once means that they are done keying and will disconnect after the hearing user's reply and twice means that they want all parties to stop keying NOW... another variation is GA to SK which means unless you have anything of importantance to add, I am ready to stop).

      And yes, I probably will make up a similar list for the recievers (which technically is called the hearing user) eventually.

      eta- the reason why Go Ahead used to be used was because when the relay system was first founded, technical limitations limited line length to something like 60 characters (I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head, it may have been more) and you needed a way to let either party know that what was said was truly the end of the message and not just the end of the line. Modern systems have no character limitations and can send as long of messages as we want, and send in real time to (no lag like in old systems) so we can send full messages, just using the common technique that hearing users use to know when the message is finished and send it (mainly that the person stops talking and starts waiting for a response). Some companies continue to use Go Ahead because they know that so many people are accustomed to using it, but it is (for the most part) purely because of convention and not technical limitations.
      Last edited by smileyeagle1021; 07-02-2010, 07:06 AM.
      If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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      • #4
        Oh, I see. In my first relay call, the operator told me to speak "Go ahead" at the end of my messages. He also said "go ahead" at the end of the deaf user's, but that was probably just the prompt for me.

        Thanks.

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        • #5
          Yeah, using the old system you'd have calls that went something like

          Hi, this is John Smith calling about...
          *pause*
          my visa account...
          *pause*
          4123-1234-1234-431...
          *pause*
          When is my next payment due? Go Ahead.

          So you would need the go ahead as a prompt to know whether that was just another pause waiting for more from the deaf user or if they were ready for you to speak.
          If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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          • #6
            Oh! That's what happened. The operator had to keep reminding me to *wait* for the go-ahead because I would forget and try to speak during the pauses. I guess deaf user had an old TTY or something.

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            • #7
              In my job we take calls for people wanting to place ads in the paper. Unfortunately, we haven't received a legitimate call via relay in years. All the relay calls we get are people trying to place a fraudulent ad- usually for bulldog puppies they claim to be selling- and I'm sure most of these calls originate outside the country (most likely from Nigeria). I had one call from a guy who claimed to be offering customer service jobs paying $300 to $600 PER HOUR. Of course when I tried to verify this, the guy at the billing phone number was not hiring & had never heard of the guy I talked to.

              I know you relay operators have no control over this and you have to place the call. It's a great service for those who are using it properly. I wish there was some way to keep the scammers from doing it.
              When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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              • #8
                MoonCat, I can't speak for all relay providers, but at least the company I'm at has been agressive in reducing fraud. We will block any person who admits during a call that they aren't really deaf/mute, any account that shows signs of being used for fraud (frequently changing personal information, using multiple declined credit cards to make a purchase, unusually large purchases, etc) will be suspended pending a further investigation, and managers do routinely moniter the IP addresses of incoming calls and if they catch one that is from out of country they'll kill the connection (which though considering we can easily have over 80-100 calls in process during the day on a slower day and the floor manager is also responsible for monitoring staffing levels for approving breaks, handing off calls for end of shift for a ca, or request for a different language/gender ca, yeah, it isn't as easy as it sounds)
                If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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