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  • Bring it. We're lawyered up! (long)

    Here's another old story from the Service Inn. The old Service Inn
    was located in a southern college town with the corresponding
    holidays of Game Day.
    We hired extra staff for Game Days, but there's only so much benefit
    in adding extra people when time is still short. We actually had
    double Game Days in some seasons, when baseball and basketball were
    both in play, etc.

    This incident was a combined track/basketball Game Day. Service Inn
    was booked up on Friday from people coming in for the Saturday
    morning track meet, but they were checking out to go home that
    evening. We also had a full house checking in for the basketball
    game that evening.

    Guest comes in at 1pm saying they have a guaranteed third-party
    online reservation (like eqpedia, travelfarcity, or ozbitss) for two
    adjoining doubles with connecting door. Our computer shows they've
    had this for a month, but the housekeeping report says only one of
    the rooms has been cleaned from the early pass and that the other is
    still dirty. There are only 2 sets of rooms that would fit their
    requirement, so I can't do any moving around here.

    Guest is particularly agitated to get clothes changed for the
    basketball game. I explain that our checkin time is 3pm, but that I
    can let them in to 1 room with no extra fee and that their other room
    would be ready later that afternoon. They could have a secure place
    to change and store their luggage, and the other room would be
    available for sleeping at the regular checkin time.

    Guest complains that the online 3rd party they booked with stated
    that checkin time was 2pm. I responded that I would ask for
    housekeeping to expedite their other room but that as it was still
    only 1pm, I only had 1 room clean. They take the 1 room and put down
    a credit card for it, and state they will pay for the other when it
    is available. When they leave I call head housekeeper and ask her to
    get somebody on the other room soon.

    I also use this respite to (between other guests coming in) check
    what the online reseller is saying about us. 2pm checkin? NO! They
    have 3pm, just like we provided to them and everybody else.

    1 minute before 2pm guest comes charging back into lobby. They are
    unhappy that they have seen housekeeping cleaning rooms near them,
    but not the adjoining room. They are also unhappy that housekeepers
    have been using the televisions in the rooms while they are cleaning
    them. I remind them that if they feel 3rd party booking service has
    misled them, their complaint is with 3rd party service, and that our
    checkin is at 3pm. Housekeeping can only clean rooms at a certain
    pace. Boss was not there (thankfully), and in a moment of pique I
    tell guest that the rooms will be clean when they are clean and that
    hitting housekeepers with a stick and yelling at them in Spanish will
    not speed this process up.

    Guest storms off, but is back a few moments later. They elbow in
    front of other guests trying to check in, and inform me that since
    I've "broken the terms of their contract", and also been "racist",
    they would be suing me and the Service Inn for this.

    At this point, I am relieved. I had just recently been to a Service
    Inn conference where they discussed our legal responsibility. If a
    person who stayed the night and complained wasn't dealt with
    satisfactorily by the hotel, they should be compensated up to the
    totall bill... but if somebody hasn't stayed, and hasn't been billed
    for any money, then our total legal responsibility for them is ZERO.

    So I look at Guest and say to him, "I can help you in just a moment,
    but right now I need you to step aside and let me check in this other
    guest." When (shock) he refuses, I tell him that (naughty) I can
    solve his problem. He won't be charged anything for his stay at the
    hotel. Guest's face lights up here- for the moment, until I tell him
    that he won't be staying at the hotel and that he has to vacate the
    property immediately. Due to his interference in hotel business, I
    cannot serve him any further and that he is, as of this moment,
    trespassing.

    Guess what- he starts yelling. This is therefore a great background
    sound for the call I make to the local police asking them to remove a
    disruptive trespasser on our property. The cops come, they separate
    us by asking him to go outside and talk to the other officer. First
    officer asks me, "Why does he have to leave?"

    I reply "We are a first-class hotel with certain standards of
    deportment. This guest was not only disrupting hotel business he was
    disturbing other paying guests of the hotel. He will not be charged
    by us but we are refusing his party any service and they must vacate
    the premises immediately." I then hand the police officer the credit
    card carbon from this guest and ask him "Please give this to the
    guest. He won't be charged for this."

    Police officer goes back, and comes back in to say "He says he will
    be suing you." I reply, "He still has to go." So after much yelling
    at the police (I could hear it through the glass door to the lobby)
    the guest leaves. I call housekeeping and tell them to particularly
    look for damage in the room. When the boss comes in later that
    afternoon, I tell him about the problem.

    This hasn't taken that long, though. At about 3:15 housekeeping lets
    me know that all rooms are clean. In just a few minutes, somebody
    else comes looking for any available rooms, and I have two nice rooms
    ready to sell to them.

    About two weeks later Corporate sends us a notice that they had
    received a serious complaint about our hotel, but as the person
    sending it was not a customer, they had replied with a "Legal
    Letter." I don't know what's in the "legal letter", but I bet it's a
    restatement of "deep south" law and the invitation to sue at their
    expense.

    The Service Inn taught me that if a customer looks you straight in
    the eye and says, "I think you are legally responsible for..." then
    you might have to panic. If they scream "I'm gonna sue you!" then
    they need to be reminded that you are lawyered up.
    "Them boys ain't zombies! They're just stupid!"

  • #2
    Absolutely brilliant! Pwned!
    They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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    • #3
      I hope you have proof/video/witness of just how he acted; seems almost like the police didn't want to believe you. Since he's actually followed-through with paperwork, he might be trouble. Otherwise, awesome job dealing with him.

      Unfortunately, I think the housekeeping remark about hitting them with sticks and yelling in spanish was uncalled for.
      "If anyone wants this old box containing the broken bits of my former faith in humanity, I'll take your best offer now. You may be able to salvage a few of em' for parts..... " - Quote by Argabarga

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      • #4
        Only if it was untrue.
        They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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        • #5
          Very nicely handled.

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          • #6
            I agree this twerp was sucky, and that it's hard for us to gauge the full length and rage of the suckiness without having been there. I wonder, however, if a different reaction may have defused the situation and had a different outcome. From the telling, it appears the yelling didn't start until it was announced the unguest wouldn't be staying and would be forcefully removed from the premises. I can see how a canceled reservation and threat of police would upset anyone.

            All that said, you are the one who was there and in charge of a first-class hotel with waiting guests. You judged the best course of action for the your hotel and guests, thus I will defer to your judgement, because I'm not the one who had a rude, pushy jerk screaming at me.

            Different topic: Don't 3rd party booking sites (Expedia/Hotel.com/etc) require prepayment? If so, he had already paid for his stay, even if it was through another agency. Just curious.
            A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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            • #7
              Salesmonkey (and the other hotel workers around here) can correct me, but what I heard at one hotel I stayed at was that the hotel doesn't get the funds until after the customer stays at the hotel.

              Why can't people be gracious when asking for special exemptions to the standard rules? I've asked for early check-in (and really late check-in) before, and since I know I'm messing with the cleaning schedule I'm grateful when they can accommodate me. Having one of the two rooms opened up solved all the problems the guy had (a place to clean up, change, and store luggage). The only thing it didn't do was provide enough beds for everyone to take a nap. How hard would it have really been to move luggage to the second room after the game? He really blew the whole thing out of proportion.
              Sorry, my cow died so I don't need your bull

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              • #8
                It occurs to me that the rest of the town might have been full, as well. Throwing a snit because things don't go exactly as you demand probably gave him a very, very bad night. OTOH, park benches can be comfortable if you're drunk enough...

                When you threaten to escalate, and the person you're threatening GRINS, it's probably a bad thing. They may as well say, "You have just handed me all the tools I need to deal with you, and the result probably won't go to your advantage."

                Love, Who?

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                • #9
                  Quoth LillFilly View Post
                  I hope you have proof/video/witness of just how he acted; seems almost like the police didn't want to believe you.
                  Where'd you get that from? All I saw was them getting both sides of the story to find out the proper resolution. The police aren't supposed to believe anyone at face value, but considering no criminal charges were being filed, they don't need the evidence.
                  I AM the evil bastard!
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                  • #10
                    One of the things I like about my hotel is that as soon as someone invokes lawyer or sue, we are done. I get to break out my favorite lines:

                    I'm sorry but as of now this is a legal matter and I am not authorized to continue this conversation. Any further business will need to be conducted through our corporate legal offices.

                    As our corporate LP rep is fond of saying: I always like when someone says they will call their lawyer. They have their one lawyer, we have an entire floor of lawyers.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth bainsidhe View Post
                      I agree this twerp was sucky, and that it's hard for us to gauge the full length and rage of the suckiness without having been there. I wonder, however, if a different reaction may have defused the situation and had a different outcome. From the telling, it appears the yelling didn't start until it was announced the unguest wouldn't be staying and would be forcefully removed from the premises. I can see how a canceled reservation and threat of police would upset anyone.
                      Only after they were told they couldn't check in early several times, lied about what they were told check-in time was, went snooping on the housekeepers, cut in front of other guests in line to argue further, played the race card, and then made their threat to sue.

                      I'd tell them to go screw too, hollering or not. They have no case any lawyer more competent than Lionel Hutz would take.
                      Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                      "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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