Long Distance Stalker

[Racket_Man]

this happened during the week I was Blissfully BOREDDD outta my skull ie. vacation time.

Pizza Place gets a timed delivery order (order to be delivered at a specific time in the case 8:30pm) from a way out of state person to a house in our area. ordering person does, however, want a phone call back when the order is sucesssfully delivered.

Now this in and of itself is not all that unusual. this situation could arise for birthdays, special events, corp lunches, trucking company trainees running out of money, Grandma feeding some poor slob who lost their wallet,etc. as long as the order is paid for in advance we do not care.

driver attempts to deliver the order at the specified time. no one home. call ordering person back to inform them of the situation. they hem and haw and then say something to the effect of "OH I forgot about the time zone difference. could be please deliver the order at 9:30pm. And could you put a $5 tip on the CC slip too." again no real problem on our part.

driver attempts to redeliver the order at 9:30pm.

Now the fun part: the person who is supposed to receive the order states VERY VERY firmly to the driver "I did not order anything from you AND I would NEVER accept ANYTHING from that again. tell her to stop contacting me" Real nice

driver takes the order back to the store. MOD contacts the ordering person with the message the driver brought back. Person just says "Sorry" and hangs up.

I love when people try and use us for stalking.

[Mytical]

That is very...um.. disturbing? Freaky? Crazy? What is the word I am looking for....

[bainsidhe]

Poor, abandoned pies.

[South Texan]

Anyone want to lay odds that she will challenge the charge since the delivery never happened?

[PepperElf]

i wonder if the stalker was trying to use abuse you to get around a restraining order.

it may be worth calling the cops over and giving them the stalker's name and number as well as the info for the victim. if the victim does have a restraining order in place it could provide proof that he's violating it. or... if the stalker escalates the situation, it may help the police if they already have his information (and the incident) in their databases...

[Sapphire Silk]

Poor, abandoned pies.

I'm sure Racket Man gave them a home. I know I would have when I did pizza delivery (Well, the store would have. We had a cool manager who would let staff have pies that were undeliverable).

What I'm curious about is this: did LD Stalker have to pay for the pies? She should have.

[EricKei]

It sounds to me like the "stalker" was the one paying for the pies -- and if that person DOES contest the charges, then just have a little chat with them - "I wonder what the police would have to say about your little stunt?"...

[Barefootgirl]

i wonder if the stalker was trying to use abuse you to get around a restraining order.

it may be worth calling the cops over and giving them the stalker's name and number as well as the info for the victim. if the victim does have a restraining order in place it could provide proof that he's violating it. or... if the stalker escalates the situation, it may help the police if they already have his information (and the incident) in their databases...

i think you'd be completely out of order in doing that. The "victim" clearly already knows the "stalker's" name, because thats why they refused the pizza. its the VICTIM's job to report incidences of harrassment, not the pizza man's. If this was in fact the situation, the police would call the pizza place and get the information for themselves.

When my MIL goes off her meds, she sometimes thinks that people who are in fact trying to help her are actually trying to kill her, or harm her in some way. Its entirely possible that this is the case in this situation. The "victim" may have a psychiatric problem, and resent or fear the "help" being offered to them.

People who are genuinely stalking other people don't usually hand over their credit card details in the process.

[Jarissa]

People who are genuinely stalking other people don't usually hand over their credit card details in the process.

I'm sorry, Barefootgirl, but yeah, they do. It's about proving that no negative consequence can happen to the stalker, because she is completely in control and the victim is helpless and must submit.

Do the local police know about your MIL's medical condition? Do they have a list where they keep info on people with medical mental conditions, in case that person needs special help? I know that the lady on my block with Alzheimer's is on a list with our local cops and the nearest two jurisdictions, including what name she'll respond to during her heavy episodes and a few notes on how she thinks reality works. (Miss Dorothy usually thinks it's 1917 or so, people of her ethnicity are not legally permitted to ride in automobile carriages under penalty of jail, and all of her neighbors are either potential housekeeping employers or bitter souls looking for an excuse to tear her family apart. Her daughter's work phone number is A and her great-grandnephew's cell number is B, but half the time she doesn't trust the latter in which case try any man in police or military uniform.)

[Racket_Man]

Anyone want to lay odds that she will challenge the charge since the delivery never happened?

CC charge was immediately voided as soon as the second delivery attempt was made

I'm sure Racket Man gave them a home. I know I would have when I did pizza delivery (Well, the store would have. We had a cool manager who would let staff have pies that were undeliverable).

What I'm curious about is this: did LD Stalker have to pay for the pies? She should have.

I would have give then a nice temp home IF I had been there. this happened during my vacation time.

Nope any time an order is undeliverable (if on a CC) the charge is voided. NOW it may take 5 business days for the money to return to a checking account if a debt card is used.

it was obvious that the person KNEW beyond a resonable doubt who sent the order. since about a 1000 miles seperate the two parties it really is none of our concern and I am not sure what the local police could do. that would rest upon the shoulders of the intended receiver.

[Seshat]

When my MIL goes off her meds, she sometimes thinks that people who are in fact trying to help her are actually trying to kill her, or harm her in some way. Its entirely possible that this is the case in this situation. The "victim" may have a psychiatric problem, and resent or fear the "help" being offered to them.

Our local police are helpful in psychiatric cases. Admittedly, the help mostly consists of keeping the patient from injuring self or others while medical help arrives - but they're not trained as psychiatric medical personnel, and I honestly wouldn't want them trying to be.

When my best friend mentioned the S word (suicide) while on a phone call to one of the help lines, they send the police and an ambulance to our house. The police simply hung around, one in line of sight of her at all times, while my friend kept talking to the help line person (trained to help keep her calm, you see). The cops stayed until the ambulance left.


(Edit to add: I'd been aware she was distressed, but I'd also been aware she was on a help line, and figured she was in safe hands.)