How to Not Get a Job.

[Caractacus_Potts]

I had a similar situation. I was attacked by a pair of dogs and one of them took a good chunk out of my right hand (I'm a righty). I missed several days of work and came in on a Saturday to put out some fires.

The phone rings and I'm expecting a call from my wife so I answer it (my place is M-F and we usually let the machine get any calls if we happen to be in on a weekend). It's Joe Blow looking to follow up on his application to the shop. I tell him he needs to talk to J and J will be in on Monday at 7:30 AM. Joe Blow wants to leave a message. I explain injury and tell him again to call J Monday. Back and forth with Joe Blow getting more insistent and me repeating to call back Monday and ask for J. Blow won't even hang up and call back to leave a message on the machine because me leaving a written message will be more impressive. I finally acquiesce to his request just to get him off the phone...

"J

Joe Blow called RE his application. Do not hire. Can not follow simple instructions.

Caractacus"

[Kogarashi]

"J

Joe Blow called RE his application. Do not hire. Can not follow simple instructions.

Caractacus"

Ouch. But then, he brought it on himself.

[mikoyan29]

One of the lessons that sticks out from job hunting is that you treat whoever is at the company with some degree of respect. I'm sure there are cases where the person that interviews you will ask the receptionist how you acted with him or her. I try to treat everyone with respect because you never know...

[Jester]

I'm sure there are cases where the person that interviews you will ask the receptionist how you acted with him or her.

More than you think. My mother was a career executive assistant/secretary, often working in administration, and anything her bosses saw went through her. Including the stupid people. My mother's bosses often asked her opinion on many things, not the least of which were potential employees.

More recently, my current establishment's management has often asked me my impression of applicants that I dealt with, before they got interviewed. I am sure they ask other front of the house employees as well, but as I am the day bartender 4 out of the 7 days in a week, I probably see more than most of the staff.

Without blowing my position out of proportion, I can honestly say that my words were the reason that some people were never contacted, and some were called in immediately for interviews. At least one current server is an example of the latter. I had a very good impression of her from talking to her, told her who to ask for when she returned, and also told the appropriate manager my positive impression of her. I have also gotten several friends hired, as well as advising my managers to NOT hire various people that put my name down on their application.

It all boils down to this, once again: Don't Fuck With The Gate Keeper.

[Andara Bledin]

i finally acquiesce to his request just to get him off the phone...

"J

Joe Blow called RE his application. Do not hire. Can not follow simple instructions.

Caractacus"

We used to put ads out that required either a fax or email. Anybody who called prior to faxing or emailing got a "cannot follow directions" note on their resume. And the funny part is that they would have had to do some research to find the number to call in the first place.

^-.-^

[Jay 2K Winger]

"Bonehead Free Work Place?"

I trust you mean in the sense that the workers are not boneheads. Any time you combine random people (especially tourists) with alcohol, you're gonna get boneheads.

Don't Fuck With The Gate Keeper.

Unless you're the Key Master.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

... Executive Chef carves you ...

Thanks dalesys, you always come up with the good stuff *hands over cookies*

[Jester]

I have had many managers who would write on an application "did not bring own pen" for anyone who didn't. And they appreciated it when we noted the same thing on any apps we took from people who were that unprepared.

"Bonehead Free Work Place?"

I trust you mean in the sense that the workers are not boneheads. Any time you combine random people (especially tourists) with alcohol, you're gonna get boneheads.

Yes, I meant in the sense of employees. We cannot possibly be a Bonehead Free Bar....just a Bonehead Free Workplace. Big difference.

Especially with Fantasy Fest just past last week and the Parrotheads invading this week.

Unless you're the Key Master.

Sigourney Weaver can fuck with me any time she wants, thank you very much!

[South Texan]

One of the lessons that sticks out from job hunting is that you treat whoever is at the company with some degree of respect. I'm sure there are cases where the person that interviews you will ask the receptionist how you acted with him or her. I try to treat everyone with respect because you never know...

I actually DID work in an office in which the receptionist took notes on how an applicant behaved while waiting for the interview. If the applicant acted at all dismissive or superior to her, she would inform whomever was conducting the interview of the attitude and behavior. No one who got a negative report from her was offered any position. The philosophy was that everyone had to get along in order for our office to function, and a person who put on airs was not considered a good fit in such an office.

[mikoyan29]

One of the questions I will ask if I am ever in a position to hire:
"If you empty the joe, do you make more?"

Both pots were empty today.....

[BeenThereDoneThat]

When I worked for a very small temp agency (mostly doing short term assignments at other offices), sometimes I'd fill in at the agency's own office if someone was going to be out for a week or a few days. I often looked over the resumes, as I was asked to sort them and pick out any I thought had really good potential. I put a LOT of them in the "I don't think so" pile. One thing that really stood out for me: If you are going for an office job that is temp-to-hire and very professional, don't you think you should get a professional-looking e-mail address, rather than using something like "MuchTooSexy4U@freeanduncensoreddomain.com"? You can probably imagine what I thought of those people after getting resumes like that, and I was not afraid to share my opinions with the owner and the personnel manager.

[Lachrymose]

Sigourney Weaver can fuck with me any time she wants, thank you very much!

There is no Sigourney. Only Zuul.

[Jester]

One of the questions I will ask if I am ever in a position to hire:
"If you empty the joe, do you make more?"

Both pots were empty today.....

You might want to rephrase the question so that the correct answer is not so obvious. Such as, "What is your view on workplace coffee?"

Myself, I would probably rarely make more coffee, just for the simple reason that I don't drink the stuff. I might occasionally make it to be nice, but as a non-coffee person, I don't think I should ever be expected to make it if I worked in an office. (Obviously working in a restaurant it's different, as it's quite literally part of my job to make it from time to time.)

[Mr Hero]

Sigourney Weaver can fuck with me any time she wants, thank you very much!

Rule#1 violation right here.

[Alpha Strike]

Especially with Fantasy Fest just past last week and the Parrotheads invading this week.

What's a Parrothead?