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  • I'll sue you for calling 911 for me!

    I was working at the call center, answering complaint calls/letters for a cell phone company.

    I was in Kentucky, and answering a letter from a customer in California. The letter was full of big words and threats of litigation and threats to notify the media about their complaint. The actual complaint was totally without merit, they basically wanted to rack up huge overages, and international roaming, and get it all for free on the grounds they didn't get any notification at the time that they would be billed separately for any of this.

    It was all spelled out clearly in the terms of service/service contract, and I always thought it was pretty basic knowledge that if you use more minutes than your cell plan allows, you get charged for them instead of your phone turning off, and if you take your phone to a foreign nation in the Caribbean, you'll have to pay separately for that.

    Well, he wanted a couple thousand dollars worth of services comped to him, with a written apology. Not happening. We had no authority to adjust international roaming, since foreign companies were billing us for the time they used, that wasn't an internal issue. We could only do something about it if it was confirmed "network fraud" i.e. cloning. He admitted he went on a two-week vacation with his family to some tiny island nation, they were amazed they had phone signal, and they talked it up with the folks back home about how cool things were on their island paradise. . .and used the heck out of their smartphones (international data roaming can be super-expensive).

    As for the overages, we could offer a one-time courtesy adjustment for up to $500 worth of the charges if he agreed to change to a price plan which would prevent the overages in the future. He wouldn't hear of it, he thought it was our fault for not letting him know somehow that he was in overage territory and would be billed per-minute when not on nights/weekends time.

    So, I stuck to my guns. He owed us about $2500. I could have trimmed $500 off if he changed the price plan, but he wanted all-or-nothing. This was somebody who could afford to take a family of 5 to the Caribbean for two weeks, but was acting like I would bankrupt him to charge him cell phone overages.

    Sputtering and angry, he screams out "I'm having a heart attack here!" and hangs up.

    Uh oh.

    I immediately try to call back, and get no reply. I notify my supervisor immediately, and we go into an emergency response. The supervisor tries to call other contact numbers on the account (home, other family members ect.) while I call 911.

    I get ahold of 911, explain that I'm in a local call center reporting an emergency in Bakersfield, CA. They transferred me over, and I was speaking with Bakersfield 911. I told them what happened: a customer was upset over a billing dispute, began to scream and said he was having a heart attack, hung up, and we have been unable to contact him again. 911 said they were dispatching EMS.

    Well, my supervisor called his wife. . .who wasn't at home but was told that he reported he was having a medical emergency at home and we've already called 911. She said she would race there immediately. About this time he tries again to get ahold of the customer, this time we call his landline phone. We usually don't use landlines as a main means of contact since they are often outdated numbers (many customers have their old landline numbers on accounts, but have since discontinued landline service).

    He picks up. The supervisor puts it on speakerphone.

    He says he doesn't want to talk to us. He didn't answer when we called back because he didn't want to talk to us, and his landline doesn't have caller ID or he wouldn't have answered that call. He hung up on us because he was angry with us, and he said "I'm having a heart attack" apparently to emphasize how upset he was. As we're talking, we hear in the background the sound of a siren. He gets very upset when he sees an ambulance pulling up out front of his house. The supervisor explains how we called 911 since he reported a medical emergency.

    He goes even more furious, saying that if he has to pay one dime for the EMS being dispatched to his house, he'll sue us, on top of suing us for the billing dispute.

    I hear in the background the EMS pounding on the door, the SC says he'll never do business with us again, reminds us he is suing us and will be speaking with his attorney later in the day, and we'll all be out of a job over this very soon.

    Never heard anything else from this SC.

  • #2
    What a splendid gentleman.

    This guy seems like the type to live outside of his means. If that's the case then paying all those overages probably would put him in the red financially since he spent more money than he had/should have taking the family on vacation for two weeks. People don't get popular being fiscally responsible, you know?

    Perhaps he will suffer a real heart attack when he finds out he has no case and where someone would normally call 911 for him they'd say "Well, last time the paramedics were called while you were complaining of a heart attack you got angry and threatened to sue. So I'm just gonna, you know, not do that for you. Can't afford to be sued and all. But on the off chance that this is real look on the bright side - you don't have to pay bills when you're dead."

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    • #3

      Way to call his bluff. He was obviously angling for some kind of 'sympathy discount'. Do keep us informed, tell me this call was recorded for quality assurance. That will be quite interesting should your firm have to sue him.
      I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

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      • #4
        And then he'll sue his lawyer for charging too much for suing you, and....it goes on and on. Also, he's treading into boy who cried wolf territory. Who's to say that if he does have an actual heart attack, anyone will believe him now? Oh, and I hope his wife chewed him a good one as well, since I'm sure she was scared for his wellbeing!
        "And though she be but little, she is FIERCE!"--Shakespeare

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        • #5
          Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
          And then he'll sue his lawyer for charging too much for suing you, and....it goes on and on. Also, he's treading into boy who cried wolf territory. Who's to say that if he does have an actual heart attack, anyone will believe him now? Oh, and I hope his wife chewed him a good one as well, since I'm sure she was scared for his wellbeing!
          Oh, to be a fly on the wall when she got home too. As much as I don't like seeing guys emasculated, I hope he gets what he deserves; not just the yelling at by his wife, but by the EMT paramedics as well. The only lawyer they'll be needing is a divorce lawyer.

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          • #6
            I call these people "black hole" customers. They've done wrong, they KNOW it, but they don't want to deal with the consequences, so they keep compounding error after error after error, knowingly, hoping that if they just make it bad enough, they'll pop out through the singularity of bad and onto the "good" on the other side.

            Never works, but it's fun to see em' try.

            How much you wanna bet that he'd have tried to sue you for NOT calling an ambulance after he claimed he was having a heart attack, because then you'd have been negligent of a possible medical emergency!
            - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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            • #7
              Quoth taxguykarl View Post

              Way to call his bluff. He was obviously angling for some kind of 'sympathy discount'. Do keep us informed, tell me this call was recorded for quality assurance. That will be quite interesting should your firm have to sue him.
              All of our calls were recorded for quality assurance purposes. They retain all calls for either 6 months or a year (unless something comes up which would make them retain them longer, like litigation). This was ~2 years ago and I haven't worked there in over a year, but as of when I left, nothing had ever come up about that again.

              By complete coincidence, for my weekly random QA check, they pulled this call. Got a perfect score on it, with unofficially noting that if I didn't call 911 afterwards I would probably have been fired for opening up the company to liability.

              Yeah, I thought it was probably a bluff or being melodramatic, but I couldn't afford to risk it.

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              • #8
                Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                And then he'll sue his lawyer for charging too much for suing you, and....it goes on and on. Also, he's treading into boy who cried wolf territory. Who's to say that if he does have an actual heart attack, anyone will believe him now? Oh, and I hope his wife chewed him a good one as well, since I'm sure she was scared for his wellbeing!
                I was just thinking the same thing. And he'd deserve every scrap of trouble he gets for that!
                Quoth silverstaff View Post
                By complete coincidence, for my weekly random QA check, they pulled this call. Got a perfect score on it, with unofficially noting that if I didn't call 911 afterwards I would probably have been fired for opening up the company to liability.
                Good call on your part. And wouldn't that just be the icing on that SC's cake, to find out that his little tantrum trying to force your hand ended up getting you a perfect score!
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                • #9
                  Quoth XCashier View Post
                  Good call on your part. And wouldn't that just be the icing on that SC's cake, to find out that his little tantrum trying to force your hand ended up getting you a perfect score!
                  I think that guy really would have had a heart attack if he found out.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth Argabarga View Post
                    I call these people "black hole" customers. They've done wrong, they KNOW it, but they don't want to deal with the consequences, so they keep compounding error after error after error, knowingly, hoping that if they just make it bad enough, they'll pop out through the singularity of bad and onto the "good" on the other side.

                    Never works, but it's fun to see em' try.

                    How much you wanna bet that he'd have tried to sue you for NOT calling an ambulance after he claimed he was having a heart attack, because then you'd have been negligent of a possible medical emergency!
                    Too funny - my 7 year old is finally starting to get over his tendancy to compound each problem by misbehaving yet again in defiance of punishments. I am eternally amused by how much SCs resemble 5 year olds...
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                    • #11
                      Maybe your company should sue HIM! Why don't you talk to your legal department and see what can be done about him?
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Argabarga View Post
                        I call these people "black hole" customers. They've done wrong, they KNOW it, but they don't want to deal with the consequences, so they keep compounding error after error after error, knowingly, hoping that if they just make it bad enough, they'll pop out through the singularity of bad and onto the "good" on the other side.

                        Never works, but it's fun to see em' try.
                        I'm totally borrowing that, but remember that to the SC, any victory they can get is a victory overall. If they can compound, say, six mistakes and only have to deal with five, they "win" regardless of the fact that four other mistakes could have been avoided entirely if they'd just copped to the first.

                        Friend of mine got a speeding ticket. Neglected to pay. Court date was set; missed his court date. Lost his license, was notified by mail. Couldn't get his car registered without a valid license. His expired plates got the attention of a traffic cop, who arrested him and put him in jail. Spent hundreds of dollars getting it all straightened out - lost his insurance for repeated violations.

                        He eventually found a bottom-feeder insurance company willing to cover his habitual driving offenses for about twice what he'd originally been paying. However, he feels violated because, as he said, when the cop pulled him over for expired plates, "he wasn't speeding." And he feels like the victor because one of the charges was dropped by the judge when he was able to prove that he was making good on all the rest of the issues.

                        Yay, you win, and it only cost you $1100, a night in jail, an additional $400 a year, and X weeks of traffic school...and you still drive like a lunatic.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Ben_Who View Post
                          Friend of mine got a speeding ticket. Neglected to pay. Court date was set; missed his court date. Lost his license, was notified by mail. Couldn't get his car registered without a valid license. His expired plates got the attention of a traffic cop, who arrested him and put him in jail. Spent hundreds of dollars getting it all straightened out - lost his insurance for repeated violations.

                          He eventually found a bottom-feeder insurance company willing to cover his habitual driving offenses for about twice what he'd originally been paying. However, he feels violated because, as he said, when the cop pulled him over for expired plates, "he wasn't speeding." And he feels like the victor because one of the charges was dropped by the judge when he was able to prove that he was making good on all the rest of the issues.

                          Yay, you win, and it only cost you $1100, a night in jail, an additional $400 a year, and X weeks of traffic school...and you still drive like a lunatic.
                          So your friend is Jerry from the State Farm commercials?

                          Don't EVER let him borrow your car!

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                          • #14
                            Quoth silverstaff View Post
                            I hear in the background the EMS pounding on the door, the SC says he'll never do business with us again, reminds us he is suing us and will be speaking with his attorney later in the day, and we'll all be out of a job over this very soon.

                            Never heard anything else from this SC.
                            And you won't. I'm sure the first thing a lawyer would tell him would be, "pay the bill."

                            And the reason I'm sure of this, is because I asked a lawyer what I could do about a collections company that was being overly aggressive over a debt I didn't think I owed. His answer was, "complain to the FTC, but pay the bill even if you don't owe it. It'll cost you more in legal fees than it is worth for the satisfaction of being right."

                            I still think I didn't owe. But I paid up anyway.

                            Calling 911 was definitely the right thing to do.
                            They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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                            • #15
                              Agreed. The only one who's going to suffer is him.
                              Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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