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  • "I'm not saying you're lying..." But you are!

    I ticketed a car parked in a handicap space. The signs look like this and each sign points to a space on either side of it. The spaces also have blue handicap symbols painted on them. This car was parked in the very last space in one of these groups of handicap spaces; so to the left of the last sign (the signs are double-sided and represented by the red squares)



    I double-checked the ground and her car was parked over the handicap symbol. She came to the office later and I had to explain why she got the ticket; she admitted she didn't have a handicap permit. She argued she didn't mean to do it, it didn't look like a handicap space, if she was going to do it on purpose wouldn't she take a space up-front, etc. I explained I couldn't take the ticket back (as an officer had just picked-up our halves about 20 min ago) and that I wasn't judging that she had or hadn't done it on purpose, but she was parked there and I had to ticket her.

    About 20 minutes later I get a call from the police station. She drove over there to dispute the ticket I won't take back. The officer hadn't even arrived with the tickets yet, so hers isn't in the computer and they tell her they won't take it back anyway. She insists she wants a police officer to come with her and talk with me! So they send one over. I show him exactly where she parked. Her argument began changing from she didn't park there on purpose to "well it doesn't LOOK like a handicap space. Now every-other word out of her mouth is "I'm not calling you a liar..." "Now I'm not saying you're lying..." She now tells us that she is CERTAIN that she was not in the space I said she was! Now I had a lady do this before, but she actually moved her car to a non handicap space and THEN insisted she'd been there the whole time. But I know what spot this lady was parked in. The store who's lot this was was even nice enough to check video footage for us, but the area she parked was juuuust out of camera view. The police officer explained to her that she could fight it in court. She became pouty that we weren't going to take the ticket back; I think she'd been on her high horse thinking the police were going to side with her over a lowly mall cop; but my ticket record has been spotless for over the last year with me winning every case. She stomped back to her car without another word and left.

    So, we'll see if I get to go to court about it. I am 100 percent sure she was in the wrong because I SAW that marking under her car. But these spots are the ones people argue about the most, so I might photograph the cars I ticket here so I can prove that they were parked 1-spot closer than they might have thought they were.
    Last edited by LillFilly; 02-07-2012, 03:58 AM.
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    Well, she certainly cemented this incident into your memory for when you have to testify about what happened.
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    • #3
      I think photographs of cars in their illegal spots would help in any dispute. I'm surprised it's not the norm, in fact, since I'm sure a lot of people try to say they weren't in the spot the officer said they were in.
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      • #4
        The thread title says it all.
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        • #5
          A cheap camera with a 8GB SD card will take thousands of pictures, and time/date stamp them as well. It is something I would have in your job, in particular the parking spaces that are off the video cameras.

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          • #6
            Hell.. with today's technology , someone could come up with with a device, that would take a picture of the offense.. Allow the person who issues the ticket to input the info into that device, and then print out a copy of the ticket, with a nice pic of the car in it's offending position.
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            • #7
              Quoth LillFilly View Post
              I might photograph the cars I ticket here so I can prove that they were parked 1-spot closer than they might have thought they were.
              We started doing that for people who we give parking tickets to at the college. It works wonderfully. Takes away a lot of headache in the event that anyone complains or argues.
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              • #8
                Quoth drunkenwildmage View Post
                Hell.. with today's technology , someone could come up with with a device, that would take a picture of the offense.. Allow the person who issues the ticket to input the info into that device, and then print out a copy of the ticket, with a nice pic of the car in it's offending position.
                If someone were to invent that it would be great, and it would be very useful for catching people who have no business parking in handicapped spaces. And also people who park like assholes just for the hell of it.
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                • #9
                  Quoth Sarah Valentine View Post
                  If someone were to invent that it would be great, and it would be very useful for catching people who have no business parking in handicapped spaces. And also people who park like assholes just for the hell of it.
                  That's not something that needs to be 'invented', that's just bolting together existing components. That's more of a 'someone needs to put out an RFP' and 3 or 4 companies could build it pretty cheap.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth mhkohne View Post
                    That's not something that needs to be 'invented', that's just bolting together existing components. That's more of a 'someone needs to put out an RFP' and 3 or 4 companies could build it pretty cheap.
                    Well, whatever it is, someone needs to do it. By my calculations they could prevent over 10,000 headaches per year upon their initial introduction.
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                    • #11
                      We have those picture capable cellphones now to take pictures of the cars we tow to put a stop to the "I wasn't parked there" people (not that there were a lot of them to start with)

                      Now, the battle cry has become "But, I was only there for 5 minutes!" Uh, Ma'm, your car was there for an hour, it was called into us at 4pm, and towed at 5:15.. " "No! no! I was only there for 4 minutes!, no, 3, er uh, 2 uh, you TOWED ME AND I WAS ONLY THERE FOR 20 SECONDS!!!!! YOU TOWED ME BEFORE I PARKED THERE!"

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                      • #12
                        Yer honner they fotosheeped thet pikcher!
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                        • #13
                          I always take pictures. That said, make sure that your employer is fine with this practice. Some have strange ideas that taking pictures of someone breaking the law in a public place like this is invading their customers privacy.

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                          • #14
                            Well, we are private property, but I'll ask my boss about this, just for those spots. Sometimes I've even drawn little diagrams. We'll see.
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                            • #15
                              I can't believe I'm saying this, but I can actually understand this one.

                              We're creatures of habit by nature and come to expect everything to be the same format when it comes to things like this. In this case that format being a handicap sign in front of each spot. When things like that are changed, such as having a sign to the side with arrows instead of in front, it will be much easier to make a mistake. Unfortunately, this is a mistake that comes with a couple hundred in fines.
                              Last edited by Dips; 02-10-2012, 04:10 PM. Reason: removed FTSTS
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