I have a name ya know....

[emax4]

Good thing your advisor handled it and gave you backup. My (improper) solution would be, "Hey, glad you came in today John. er.. heh, I mean, Failing Student.. or, did you just change your name to Upcoming Dropout..."

[Chanlin]

Much of the advice given was based on the lack of knowing that those asshats got kicked to the curb. Good on your advisor for doing what needed to be done.

Trust me, I know what its like to be there. The only place I got marked down on in my first methods teaching class was on classroom management for "letting the students walk all over him" as my field supervisor put it.

[Merriweather]

I don't think anyone meant to criticize (I know I didn't), only to offer various thoughts on how to word things, etc. that might get their attention & perhaps sink in, should something similar happen again. Just some of those "in hind-sight" moments we all have ourselves.
Sorry if it sounded in any way like I was judging how you handled the situation.

[ADeMartino]

The first thing a teacher must do is command respect. Students who disrespect you in that way should be immediately ejected from the class, to make a clear statement that you will not get run over.

Seconded. Thirded. Ad Infinitum'd.

Break out the heartburn and apply liberally until they get the message that it's YOUR world and they're just living in it. Don't take shit from nobody. Chances are you'll only need to make an example out of one or two before it seeps into their tiny little brains that they're screwing with the WRONG ONE.

[sms001]

And on the other side of the equation, I TOTALLY understand the attitude you got at/from the Circle-K.

I worked a c-store in the mornings for some extra cash while building up my own business (computer consulting). Most of the customers were great, but there were those who obviously looked down on you for being a clerk. Maybe more insulting were the ones who got to know you enough to know you had two brain cells to rub together and would say things like "You should do something with your life." or "Why are you working here?" uhm. I am. You see me five minutes a day. I have a whole 'nother life outside of here.

I did manage to pull a few clients out of the store's clientele, but there were probably ten times as many that I lost just because I was forever etched in their minds as the c-store guy, with all the baggage that goes with that.

Tough row to hoe, Amanda, but I'm glad things seem sorted, and VERY cool that you lucked into the situation as a whole, sounds like you're killing several birds with one stone.

[Bright_Star]

I used to work at Circle K in the late 80's. I worked night shift & it wasn't pleasant. I feel for ya.

[Ashaela]

Stupid people. They deserve (1) no more beer, and (2) no more class.

Really, I can't get over the massive amount of deliberate hypocrisy required for someone to decide that the Circle K (or any store) is good enough for them to shop at, but bad enough to look down on the people who make it possible for them to shop there.

[wolfie]

Have a different adviser present, or get some of the other students to back you up that tossing them out on their asses was justified so they can't complain to a dean later and get you in trouble. Document, document, and document some more, but show those losers the door and don't look back.

And when you toss them out on their asses, "Big Beef McAffree style".

[dalesys]

And when you toss them out on their asses, "Big Beef McAffree style".

Is that why the doors got blown off my PC every time Mack-A-Fee thought it had found a virus?

[PepperElf]

I think you guys are missing the part where they wouldn't let anyone, including my advisor, get a word in edge wise. Most of you are telling me that their attention needed to be gotten and that is what happened. My advisor got their attention by slamming the book down. That stopped everything.

*hands you a to use on their stupid heads*

But seriously... I do hope you can get through this. If even the advisor can't get them to stfu then they sound like real problems.


I hope the advisor can provide advice on what to do if he/she isn't there. I had a teacher who was pretty good at it with a very powerful voice... but even she had a problem student who eventually had to be removed from class and put in a separate lab because he kept picking fights with students.