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  • The 10 rules for tech support.....

    Posted this on my facebook page and I'd thought I would share....

    And just because, for some things here I’ll be making my ever-famous “car analogies.”

    1. Do not immediately mouth off that you feel the product is defective. Sure in some cases that’s true, but many times that “defective” product can be fixed by a reboot/reset/reload/reformat etc.

    2. Do not spout off your credentials like your degree, certification or whatever. 1), It’s not going to make the CSR skip troubleshooting steps, and 2) It’s only going to make you look foolish when the fix was something simple like a power cycle or moving to a different outlet. Just do what the CSR tells you to do.

    3. Do not refuse to do a troubleshooting step that may end up fixing the problem because you feel it’s not going to work. Remember, you called us for help. Also, don’t mouth off that you “know” what the problem is, because again when the problem wasn’t that it’ll make you look foolish.

    4. In cases where the CSR diagnosed that your computer needs to be formatted and reloaded, sure it’s ok to have to call us back after you back up your stuff. What’s not OK is when you refuse to do a format and reload because “you have to spend a bunch of time reinstalling your software.” Come on, are you that lazy?

    5. BE IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER WHEN YOU CALL. Also, when calling please have your computer turned on and ready to go. The only exception to this is when calling about your PC having an error on startup, obviously the CSR will want to know what the error is by having you turn your computer on.

    6. This is when calling ISP tech support: When the tech finds your modem is indeed defective, do not bitch and moan when he/she tells you that you need to pay for a new one if it’s out of warranty, or mouth off that because you’re paying for the service you should get a new one for free. Why? It’s very simple: your ISP does not make the modems. They were made by a 3rd party company that gives at best a 1 year warranty, and your ISP is really just a reseller that can only replace the modem for free when it’s in warranty. It’s like a car: Once your car goes out of warranty, you’ll have to pay for repairs even though you still are making payments on it. Are you going to mouth off to the dealership about it?

    7. Also, for ISP tech support: When the CSR tells you the company is not responsible for inside wiring and if you want inside wiring covered you need to buy a monthly service plan, do not mouth off with “Yes you are” or “I don’t see how I’m responsible for my inside wiring.” If you were to buy a Mustang, is your dealer responsible for all the aftermarket crap you’re going to put on it? Also, some of you might say “but they installed the jacks/coax/whatever so yes they are responsible.” Um, no. Once those jacks get installed, they’re installed as-is with no warranty. Simply put, if you want your inside wiring covered, don’t be a cheapskate and pony up for the monthly service plan.

    8. Don’t accuse the CSR of patronizing you or say something asshole-ish like “none of your business” when he/she asks you “how’s the weather” or “how’s your day going today.” Not only is the CSR trying to be nice, but many times it’s part of their QA requirements to say things like that to “build rapport.” In other words, they are trying not to flunk their audits and in many cases lose their bonus. Just answer their question and get on with life.

    9. If the CSR tells you something is not covered, IT’S NOT COVERED! Also, do not mouth off that you got a virus even though you have antivirus software and start saying the software is crap etc. AV software is like modern safety features on cars: Just because modern cars have 10 airbags, door guards etc doesn’t mean you won’t get hurt in a crash, just because you have antivirus software doesn’t make you immune to viruses. Also, getting a Mac doesn’t make you immune to viruses either.

    10. Last few things I want to mention: When you tell me “I’ll let you talk to me son he’s a genius,” please keep in mind that just because he plays WoW 10 hours a day does not make him a Genius! Also, if you hate calling tech support and getting India, here’s a tip: spend a little more and get a product marketed towards businesses. Wonder why the business-class router is $250 and that Linksys consumer router is $60? Because when you call tech support on the $250 router you get an American who can troubleshoot with his eyes closed. With the $60 Linksys router you’ll get a script reader that you can’t understand. Oh, and do not get butthurt that the CSR can’t make direct recommendations, because companies don’t like being liable if for example it hoses your system.
    Last edited by sld72382; 05-16-2012, 12:42 AM.

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    • #3
      Wonder why the business-class router is $250 and that Linksys consumer router is $60? Because when you call tech support on the $250 router you get an American who can troubleshoot with his eyes closed. With the $60 Linksys router you’ll get a script reader that you can’t understand.
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      • #4
        Quoth MoonCat View Post
        There's something I did not know. Hmmm...
        Also, the business-geared equipment is (usually) built to handle higher loads/ more usage on a daily basis. This goes double for printers.
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        • #5
          11. Remember the advice on the cover of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Don't Panic. Computers can smell fear.
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          • #6
            3) Well that depends. I've been told by some techs to restart the equipment. Sure I know it's in the TS script but if I'm calling tech then I've already been through that step. Restarting it again 2 seconds into the procedure won't do anything but check a box on the script.

            4) Actually yes. There had better be a good reason for me to reformat. It takes me a while to set my computer up just the way I like it. So, say... reinstalling my os if everquest isn't working right. no. chances are it's not my os anyway. Now reinstalling and OS when windows won't load past a black screen and an arrow. yeah my os is fucked already so ain't nothing else to do but reload



            But for the rest of it i feel your pain and have more to add to it.
            a) Calling up and saying "Computer is broken" and expecting someone to instantly know what to do to fix it. Um, gonna have to give us a few more symptoms than just "broken". Does it turn on? Is it not going online? Do you hear lots of weird beeps when you start?

            b) Expecting me to fix your computer when the outlet has no power. DIAF I am not responsible for your outlets. Even if you think "But the computer won't work, it's your job to fix it". Get your outlet fixed by the people responsible for it. People who aren't me.

            c) I know these guys aren't computer techs but some common fucking sense here. Gee there's no power cable to the monitor and no video cables between the monitor and the computer. And you're wondering why you're not seeing any video?

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            • #7
              Quoth PepperElf View Post
              ... And you're wondering why you're not seeing any video?
              But it says "Wireless" on the box!


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              • #8
                I have to troubleshoot phone line/dsl issues sometimes, and I have to put up with this from co workers: "It isn't working". No shit sherlock, but how is it not working? No dt? no inbound calls? Static? Connection not there? not getting to the outside world? what specifically is wrong? FFS give me some details.
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                • #9
                  "5. BE IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER WHEN YOU CALL. Also, when calling please have your computer turned on and ready to go. The only exception to this is when calling about your PC having an error on startup, obviously the CSR will want to know what the error is by having you turn your computer on."

                  This should be rule #1....

                  Yesterday I got a call from a lady whom I had just completed a migration from lenovo to dell. She called me up about why should couldnt find her files and I asked her what did she see in the root of her c: drive.

                  ..wait for it..

                  "Oh do I need to have it on for you to remote into it, I thought you could do that remotely" (yes that was verbatim)

                  ::Facepalm::

                  and this is why I drink....

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                    11. Remember the advice on the cover of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Don't Panic. Computers can smell fear.
                    I've always been convinced there's an emotion detector in all electronic gadgets, designed to operate in total contraverse to what you want. The more annoyed you get, the more it goes 'ta-plooey', until you threaten it with a sledgehammer or try to demonstrate the error to another person- at which point, it works perfectly.

                    At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth dakhur View Post
                      I've always been convinced there's an emotion detector in all electronic gadgets, designed to operate in total contraverse to what you want. The more annoyed you get, the more it goes 'ta-plooey', until you threaten it with a sledgehammer or try to demonstrate the error to another person- at which point, it works perfectly.

                      At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
                      I can testifiy to the absolute truth of the above statement. esp when thinking nasty thoughts that involve hammers or explosives or cliffs or semi-trucks or bulldozers
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                      • #12
                        Quoth PepperElf View Post
                        3) Well that depends. I've been told by some techs to restart the equipment. Sure I know it's in the TS script but if I'm calling tech then I've already been through that step. Restarting it again 2 seconds into the procedure won't do anything but check a box on the script.

                        4) Actually yes. There had better be a good reason for me to reformat. It takes me a while to set my computer up just the way I like it. So, say... reinstalling my os if everquest isn't working right. no. chances are it's not my os anyway. Now reinstalling and OS when windows won't load past a black screen and an arrow. yeah my os is fucked already so ain't nothing else to do but reload
                        1. If a customer has already power cycled and it was for a sufficient amount of time I'll skip it and move on to the next step. Only time I make a customer do it again is if they did it improperly (Pushed the power button instead of unplugging it etc).

                        2. If I tell a customer they need to format & reload, then yes there is a legit reason why it needs to be done (IE: After a mainboard is replaced, Windows tends to freak out and make certain hardware like sound etc non-functional until you.... format and reload). I was referring to customers would who would rather have a certain function of their computer rendered useless just because they're too lazy to reinstall their 3rd party software afterwards.

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                        • #13
                          2. Do not spout off your credentials like your degree, certification or whatever. 1), It’s not going to make the CSR skip troubleshooting steps, and 2) It’s only going to make you look foolish when the fix was something simple like a power cycle or moving to a different outlet. Just do what the CSR tells you to do.
                          Although I will say... I saw this happen too. I had a RAID that wasn't connecting. The civilian tech said "o just do a soft reboot" and swore that it wouldn't be any different from a hard reboot.

                          Soft reboot did nothing. So I said "fuck it" why not try a hard reboot anyway... and it worked. The RAID was back online and happy.

                          Only then I had to fight off the officers who wanted to draft an SOP for what happens if the entire raid dies. Cos apparently they think we can somehow pull a 1TB backup device out of our assholes. One that's better than a oh... TWO RAIDS with 9 drives each? I mean WTF that's what a fucking RAID is for! Rebuilding lost data. The backup will inherently be LESS stable than the raid itself.

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                          • #14
                            7. Also, for ISP tech support: When the CSR tells you the company is not responsible for inside wiring and if you want inside wiring covered you need to buy a monthly service plan, do not mouth off with “Yes you are” or “I don’t see how I’m responsible for my inside wiring.” If you were to buy a Mustang, is your dealer responsible for all the aftermarket crap you’re going to put on it? Also, some of you might say “but they installed the jacks/coax/whatever so yes they are responsible.” Um, no. Once those jacks get installed, they’re installed as-is with no warranty. Simply put, if you want your inside wiring covered, don’t be a cheapskate and pony up for the monthly service plan.
                            I've actually encountered that issue before last summer (I have DSL through my landline phone provider) and it turned out to be a wiring issue. My mom had called the phone tech support b/c she was having trouble sending/receiving calls (lots of static and/or the call would suddenly cut off.)

                            Turned out the line that ran to our box on the side of the house from the phone pole at the corner had been chewed almost in two!!!

                            Didn't take long to put two and two together: the squirrel who lives in our big maple tree, Peanut, must have been trying to make a long distance call or something.

                            Luckily we didn't have to pay for that repair, as 1) Mom carries the maintenance plan that covers our wiring and 2) it was outside wiring, not inside (had it been inside, our maintenance plan would have covered it.)
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                            • #15
                              Quoth PepperElf View Post
                              Only then I had to fight off the officers who wanted to draft an SOP for what happens if the entire raid dies. Cos apparently they think we can somehow pull a 1TB backup device out of our assholes. One that's better than a oh... TWO RAIDS with 9 drives each? I mean WTF that's what a fucking RAID is for! Rebuilding lost data. The backup will inherently be LESS stable than the raid itself.
                              Repeat after me: RAID is not a backup. RAID is not a backup.

                              RAID will not protect you when user accidentally deletes a file, or when a program bug overwrites half of the database with garbage. RAID will also not protect you when several disks die at once (more than one with RAID5, more than two with RAID6), and yes, this does happen (I've seen 2 drives die in a RAID several times - and in only one case this was in RAID6). You can use RAID to store backups, but this still won't protect you if both RAIDs are near eachother, and you're hit with an earthquake.

                              (also, if you just have 1TB of data, you can use LTO. The tape drives are expensive, but the cartridges aren't, and they're easy to send off-site)

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