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  • Quoth Gravekeeper View Post
    They're a plague on practically every MMO they touch because every MMO they pick up ends up being shoved out the door too early. Remember poor Vanguard? Another 3-6 months of dev time might have saved it.
    Rushing things is not limited to Sony alone though. It happens to all kinds of games all the time, thanks to greed>quality. If Sony wasn't producing games like Vanguard, someone else would, with likely the same result.

    Thinking about it, I can't name one single MMO that had a good, uneventful release. 0_o It's one of the reasons I don't judge a MMO until 6 months or so after release. Seriously though, is there an MMO that released well (in comparison with games in general not just in comparison with disastrous MMO launches).
    The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury. - Marcus Aurelius
    If you're slower than me, stupider than me, and you taste good...you're dinner - Anthony Bourdain

    Memento mori.

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    • Quoth aniwahya View Post
      Rushing things is not limited to Sony alone though. It happens to all kinds of games all the time, thanks to greed>quality. If Sony wasn't producing games like Vanguard, someone else would, with likely the same result.
      Sony has a bad habit of picking up MMO's in development then shovin' em out the door. No it's not limited to them but they've pulled it more then anyone else


      Quoth aniwahya View Post
      Thinking about it, I can't name one single MMO that had a good, uneventful release. 0_o It's one of the reasons I don't judge a MMO until 6 months or so after release. Seriously though, is there an MMO that released well (in comparison with games in general not just in comparison with disastrous MMO launches).
      Dark Age of Camelot, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Lord of the Rings Online, Age of Conan just off the top of my head.

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      • Quoth Gravekeeper View Post
        The ship side of things was really well done but the boarding, dueling etc was really underpolished and kind of tacked on. Of course half of that is Sony's fault I'm sure.
        Actually, Sony delayed it for improvements. I was in beta when they announced they were releasing it in 3 months (pre Sony buyout) The fighting mechanics were just being started and there was a horrible number of alpha class bugs in the game. Maybe about 10% of the quests were working right. Heck, when a critical port goes PvP and the devs say "oops", it's time to walk away.

        Not defending sony mind you, as I've seen them trash so many MMO's. But sadly, the issues in PotBS were due to FLS.
        I AM the evil bastard!
        A+ Certified IT Technician

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        • Quoth lordlundar View Post
          Not defending sony mind you, as I've seen them trash so many MMO's. But sadly, the issues in PotBS were due to FLS.
          Ah, still, I have mixed reactions to PotBS. Because it had so much potential but was marred by coming out too soon. Another 3-6 months and it could have been really special. =/ Seriously, how can you screw up pirates?

          So it's still Age of Conan for me until Warhammer Online hits.

          We need a Ninja mmo now. ;p

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          • Ooh, a gaming thread... full stop, disengage cloak. *ducks* Yes, Star Trek nerd somewhat.

            Girl Gamer here... Current interests: WoW, FFXI, Diablo 2 (more like a long interest rather than current, but ah well), Sims 2, Super Smash Bros Brawl (addictive as hell if you can last through the finger/wrist cramps!), Requiem: Bloodymare (Beta Game, Horror... decent except for the bugs!).

            And since it's late, my mind is blanking on me... I'm sure I'm forgetting tons more.

            Just thought I'd throw my in!
            Confirmed altoholic.

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            • One game I love is Mount & Blade, an indie title originally developed as an experimentation into the much lacking of medieval mounted combat, since then, it's grown somewhat, a major plus point being the modding community, there are few games I can think of where mods can range from Lord of the Rings to Star Wars, Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, the crusades and lots lots more.
              I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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              • Quoth Gravekeeper View Post
                We need a Ninja mmo now. ;p
                Why not make it a ninja pirate mmo if we are going to be making special orders? =p

                In doing some additional research I think Warhammer might appeal to me more than AoC.

                WoW is the only MMO i have ever played that I feel less like playing the more I play. Every other MMO has just pulled me in more. What sucks is that in leaving one MMO for another, unless they go with you, you leave your MMO specific friends behind.
                The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury. - Marcus Aurelius
                If you're slower than me, stupider than me, and you taste good...you're dinner - Anthony Bourdain

                Memento mori.

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                • Quoth ShadedWings View Post
                  Ooh, a gaming thread... full stop, disengage cloak. *ducks* Yes, Star Trek nerd somewhat.

                  Girl Gamer here... Current interests: WoW, FFXI, Diablo 2 (more like a long interest rather than current, but ah well), Sims 2, Super Smash Bros Brawl (addictive as hell if you can last through the finger/wrist cramps!), Requiem: Bloodymare (Beta Game, Horror... decent except for the bugs!).

                  And since it's late, my mind is blanking on me... I'm sure I'm forgetting tons more.
                  First: Marry me! You listed the three games I've probably spent the most time on (WoW, FFXI, D2).

                  Second: On Requium: Didn't you realize that the bugs are part of the horror experience?
                  >ShadedWings hits the Shoggoth Lord for 28 points of damage
                  >ShadedWings Kills the Shoggoth Lord!
                  >Shoggoth Lord drops MegaRareUberCoolLewt+5!
                  >Connection lost to server...
                  <Demonic Laughter>

                  It's very Meta.
                  The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                  "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                  Hoc spatio locantur.

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                  • Quoth aniwahya View Post
                    Why not make it a ninja pirate mmo if we are going to be making special orders? =p
                    Nothing less than a Pirate, Viking, Knight, Ninja and Cowboy MMO would be satisfatory.
                    I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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                    • I'm waiting on Warhammer because of Mythic's legacy with DaoC. For all the fark ups the made with DaoC it had and still does have one of the best pvp models.

                      But Warhammer isn't till the fall last I heard. So AoC will amuse me till then.

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                      • Ah, gaming thread, eh? Good, something I can contribute to a bit more than the suck boards, as I don't deal with customers as often as I used to.

                        Currently playing GTA IV multiplayer, quite a bit. Not any of the game modes, though a bunch of us tried those out, just free mode. There's nothing quite as fun as just doing... whatever with a bunch of buddies. One minute you're running from the cops in a bus (and cursing the fact that you didn't pick up a better gun before getting on said bus), the next you're playing chicken with bikes.

                        Also playing Lego Indiana Jones with my wife - now that is a lotta fun. Especially as we just watched Raiders and Last Crusade. It's so much fun to watch great films treated with equal part reverence and parody. Apparently, so says the wife, we have to watch Temple before playing that section of the game.

                        Also occasionally playing AoC at the moment, but playing alone isn't much fun in MMOs, and I don't really have the time to dedicate to it to play with other folks.

                        Forgot to add, really looking forward to 4th Edition D&D, and our books are shipping tomorrow from Amazon In fact, I'd recommend listening to the Penny Arcade podcast on the subject (of them actually playing the game with Scott Kurtz of PvP), which is up... somewhere on the site. Internet's decided to fight me.
                        Last edited by Dilorenzo; 06-05-2008, 01:26 PM.

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                        • Mass Effect is sucking away my life at the moment too on a side note.

                          I don't have and will never have the inclination to purchase an X-Box so I had to wait for the PC version. -.-

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                          • Quoth Dilorenzo View Post
                            Also playing Lego Indiana Jones with my wife - now that is a lotta fun.
                            I have the PC demo, and it was really good. I'm stopping by to get the PC version after my last exam tonight with my book buyback and $5 reward coupon - after I use the high-speed internet at the college to get the revised Devil May Cry 4 PC demo.

                            As far as new stuff, I bought Katamari Damacy at half-price a couple of days ago. Very Japanese, but a lot of fun for the limited time I played it.

                            After tonight, there will be a lot of gaming going on. As far as now, back to studying!

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                            • So gravekeeper, did you go biotic or tech. Or did you wimp out and went straight soldier?
                              I've lost my mind ages ago. If you find it, please hide it.

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                              • Quoth LostMyMind View Post
                                So gravekeeper, did you go biotic or tech. Or did you wimp out and went straight soldier?
                                Tech.

                                Soldier, meh. I never play the run and gun types or the hulking claymore wielding tank types. Give me support roles. -.-

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