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  • Black Friday: In appreciation of those who work

    That day is coming in a couple of weeks, Black Friday, the darkest day of Retail in the whole year (aside from the poor souls who now have to actually work on Thanksgiving).

    I thought maybe we could take this opportunity to share our tales of Black Friday.

    My story:
    Black Friday, 2003
    Location: Department store in a major urban mall.

    I was part-time, like almost everybody else there. I had no set schedule and my hours varied from week-to-week from around 12 to about 30. For the week of Black Friday, I had 14.5 hours scheduled, all of it that day.

    The store normally opened at 8 AM and closed at 10 PM. For Black Friday, they would open at 6 AM, and publicizing their new early opening. They wanted virtually every employee there when they opened, they were expecting a storm of customers, and wanted no shortage of salespeople. So, at 6 AM that morning, I was there.

    It was indeed moderately busy at 6, but not super busy. They had a brisk, but not crushing, traffic of people throughout the morning. Most people they had brought in for that day had to only work until noon. I was on the schedule until 9 PM, only an hour before closing.

    (Also, they made it clear that calling in sick to work that day would result in termination unless you had a Dr.'s note, as an exception to their usual sick-day policy where they didn't care as long as you didn't exceed the allowed number of sick-days taken per year)

    The management made it crystal clear: no breaks at all could be taken without prior management approval, and no lunch breaks at all could be taken before noon and then only with management approval (to keep the entire store from going on lunch at once).

    Well. . .I didn't get to go to lunch until 1 (they were staggering the lunch breaks apparently, I lost), so that meant 7 hours on the clock without a meal break. Also, no rest breaks, my manager said it was way, way too important of a day to be off the floor for any reason. Never mind that by noon the business had slowed down to being only slightly busier than usual. Management was hyped up that Black Friday was such an incredibly busy day that required every employee to be there constantly.

    Well, I got my half-hour lunch at 1 PM (normally I would have got a full hour lunch for working 8 or more hours, but you know, Black Friday, so normal rules didn't apply). However, the boss was clear, no break time allowed, it's too important for everyone to be on the floor during Black Friday.

    By 5 or 6 PM, business had slowed to a trickle, the usual dead state of things at work where there were only a handful of customers in the store at any one time. The Boss still refused to allow any breaks, since "it's still Black Friday, it's important to be out there for the customers!"

    Well, my boss finally left at 8 PM. By company policy, I'd racked up 45 minutes of break time (15 minutes per 4 hours on the clock). I was off work in an hour, and by company policies I could clock out up to 15 minutes early and not be penalized if I'd already worked at least 8 hours that day.

    So, at 8 PM, after I saw my boss walk out the door (and at this hour, only one manager was left in the building), I took a side door into the back-room areas and went to the breakroom and chilled out for 45 minutes watching TV and relaxing, and I got up to go to the timeclock to punch out.

    The only manager left was standing by the timeclock, leaning against it, arms crossed. She threatened to fire me, on the spot, for "walking off the sales floor without permission" (since breaks weren't allowed on Black Friday). Apparently "someone" had told her that not only had I walked off the floor to go on break, I'd abandoned a customer to do so, and she threatened to fire me for that too.

    Having been there from before dawn until after dark, of now over 14 hours on the clock at minimum wage and over 12 hours without a break. . .I let the [censored] have it. I told her it was illegal to prohibit rest breaks just because it's Black Friday, all I did was take the break time I'd accumulated from my 14+ hours on the clock, I didn't abandon any customer and we haven't had any customers in my department in a couple of hours because they all came this morning, that if she doubted me the Security office was right over there and we can pull the tapes, and if she tries to fire me for taking break time that is mandated by company policy AND labor laws I'll be on the phone with a labor law attorney first thing Monday morning.

    She just stood back, scowled, and muttered "Well. . .don't let it happen again."

    I quit the job shortly thereafter to return to college.

  • #2
    Wow. I have a second PT job, and the first few years, I was not in town for BF. The few that I did work, i usually closed, so 5-9. Womens' clothing store, NO huge doorbusters or even deals, so while it was busy, it wasn't super crazy insane BF busy.

    Also, not everyone was every scheduled to work on BF. Under our old management regime. Last year I was here, but not scheduled. then two weeks or less out, they tried to say oh we made a mistake, we need you. Sorry, you snooze you lose. I have plans. They were not happy, but as there was no requirement that everyone work, nothing they could do about it.

    This year, new GM, 100 thousand times better, EVERYONE is working BF. So me, because I plot, I asked not only what time we might open (she didn't know yet) but HOW she would schedule, i.e. lengh of shifts, etc. My store is small enough and we have enough staff no one person will have to work all day.

    So i volunteered to open. So I'm working 6-11:30am. we open at 7. Fine by me.

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    • #3
      What happens to someone with TWO retail jobs (since neither employer will give them enough hours to live off), BOTH of which have a "everyone MUST work Black Friday" policy, and which schedule the person for overlapping shifts (i.e. not physically possible to work both scheduled shifts)? In that situation, I'd be tempted to let both employers know WELL AHEAD OF TIME (since BF can be predicted) that they were one of two employers, both of which would be likely to expect me to come in at the same time, and that whoever gave me my schedule first would have first claim on my time.

      Note that this could be expanded to pizza/chinese/other deliver food workers on events like Super Bowl Sunday.
      Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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      • #4
        Quoth silverstaff
        The management made it crystal clear: no breaks at all could be taken without prior management approval, and no lunch breaks at all could be taken before noon and then only with management approval (to keep the entire store from going on lunch at once).
        Oh, fuck that noise. They want people to work that long, they need to write up a break schedule. Thirty minutes off in a 15-hour shift is insane.
        Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

        "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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        • #5
          I'm in Canada but I work in a call center that supports a US company, so we've actually got a four-day long weekend coming. I do know some folks who are travelling across the border in the hopes of taking advantage of the sales. Even if I lived close enough to the border to jump across I wouldn't bother hitting those sales - they're crazy!

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          • #6
            I sometimes don't take all of my breaks at the Warehouse with the exception of my lunch, typically because there's too much to do with so few people. However this is a voluntary thing, if I feel like I need a break outside of lunch I'll take it. But under no circumstances would I stand for a manager to tell me that I can't take a break, busy or not, Black Friday or not. There would be words exchanged and none of them pleasant.



            The first Black Friday I worked at the Random Craft Store I transferred to, the electricity went out around 4-ish in the evening -- I was working something like 8-6 that day. So we got all the customers outside the store, nearly everyone was at the doors to keep the masses out. It typically takes about twenty minutes or so for the lights/electricity to come back on so we can have business as usual, well twenty minutes passed, then thirty, and then nearly an hour had passed with no lights, no lights, no electricity, no nothing.

            So the store manager at the time called the DM on her cell phone to tell him that, hey, we have had no power for the past hour, we can't allow anyone into the store because that's a HUGE liability that the SM isn't willing to take, what should we do? We first thought we'd be heading on home when the SM eventually got off the phone, nope everyone HAD to stay to their scheduled time regardless if the power came back on or not. We couldn't open the store naturally, we had to construct a HUGE sign for the window stating we didn't have power, check back later.

            When I left at 6 the power still hadn't been restored, I had to write down the time that I left. I came in the next day and asked what time the power came back on, I was told it hadn't until about twenty minutes to closing. The closing manager wasn't going to open shop for twenty minutes, the store looked awesome, so she had everyone count down all but one till and that if anyone wanted to do some shopping on the clock she wasn't going to stop them.
            Eh, one day I'll have something useful here. Until then, have a cookie or two.

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            • #7
              Quoth Android Kaeli View Post
              We first thought we'd be heading on home when the SM eventually got off the phone, nope everyone HAD to stay to their scheduled time regardless if the power came back on or not. We couldn't open the store naturally, we had to construct a HUGE sign for the window stating we didn't have power, check back later.
              WTF? A situation outside the control of management at the store level requires that the store be closed, but corporate feels the need to keep everyone on duty? Why not send everyone home, then use the payroll hours saved to have more staff on duty when the store is able to be open? I'd try to see things from corporate's viewpoint, but I can't get my head far enough up my ass.
              Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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              • #8
                Quoth silverstaff View Post
                I told her it was illegal to prohibit rest breaks just because it's Black Friday,

                She just stood back, scowled, and muttered "Well. . .don't let it happen again."
                I would have responded with, "Let you illegally deny me breaks? No, I won't let that happen again." But sometimes my mouth gets me in trouble.

                Black Friday is one day that our breaks are not a problem. They schedule as many people as possible, and write out the break schedule beforehand. Management generally appoints a person to be in charge of calling numbers on the overhead, making sure breaks are taken, and doing everyone's write-offs and remnants. It's great.
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                • #9
                  Quoth wolfie View Post
                  WTF? A situation outside the control of management at the store level requires that the store be closed, but corporate feels the need to keep everyone on duty? Why not send everyone home, then use the payroll hours saved to have more staff on duty when the store is able to be open? I'd try to see things from corporate's viewpoint, but I can't get my head far enough up my ass.
                  I have been told, not sure if true, that if the swamp were ever to close early due to power failure, extreme weather, or some other reason, the employees would still need to be paid for their entire shifts even though they did not work their entire shifts.

                  There could've been similar reasoning in that case. If things need to come to a halt for an undetermined period of time, might as well keep the employees on the premises and get at least some work out of them.
                  Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                  "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                  • #10
                    Quoth wolfie View Post
                    WTF? A situation outside the control of management at the store level requires that the store be closed, but corporate feels the need to keep everyone on duty? Why not send everyone home, then use the payroll hours saved to have more staff on duty when the store is able to be open? I'd try to see things from corporate's viewpoint, but I can't get my head far enough up my ass.
                    Tell me about it. When I was still at Dillard's, our whole state, plus El Paso, lost power for about 8 hours. Did we close? Nope, Little Rock wouldn't let them close the store. Everybody had to stay. And, when the power did come back on about 30 minutes before close, we had to re-open.

                    Of course, this is the same store that stayed open its normal hours on 9/11, even though the rest of the mall closed. And the mall management can't touch 'em. They own the building and it just happens to be attached to the mall.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth KuariKaydrith View Post
                      I'm in Canada but I work in a call center that supports a US company, so we've actually got a four-day long weekend coming. I do know some folks who are travelling across the border in the hopes of taking advantage of the sales. Even if I lived close enough to the border to jump across I wouldn't bother hitting those sales - they're crazy!
                      Living in a border town, when I worked at the motel we'd have a lot of people cross the line the day before to spend the night so they could get up and right to shopping first thing in the morning. Then they would get mad that everything was closed and there was no place for them to eat, seeing as how they failed to realize it was our Turkey Day and neglected to plan ahead. If they were actually nice we'd whip them up a plate from leftovers from the employee potluck; if they were grumpy then no dice. One even had the audacity to say, "I know it's your holiday but they should know Canadian shoppers will be coming down the day before so someone should be open for us!" Wanted to smack that one.
                      Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth wolfie View Post
                        WTF? A situation outside the control of management at the store level requires that the store be closed, but corporate feels the need to keep everyone on duty? Why not send everyone home, then use the payroll hours saved to have more staff on duty when the store is able to be open? I'd try to see things from corporate's viewpoint, but I can't get my head far enough up my ass.
                        The DM at the time was a real piece of shit, although I shouldn't call a piece of shit names. This is the same guy who took several hours and a few phone calls to the police department because my area had a mandatory hurricane evacuation, because he didn't believe there was a problem. He said he didn't think we should close for 'a little bit of wind and rain', the same 'little bit of wind and rain' that damaged parts of my aunt's yard -- and she's a good twenty or so miles inland!
                        Eh, one day I'll have something useful here. Until then, have a cookie or two.

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                        • #13
                          Wind and rain can be some of the most destructive powers on the planet.

                          ('Some of', because I know avalanches, earthquakes, rogue waves & tsunamis, lahars, etc etc are also severely destructive.)


                          I've been in severe wind, severe rain, and combinations of both. I'll never discount their destructive power!



                          Edit to add:
                          I like that comment earlier about a company which had the break schedule pre-planned before Black Friday, and someone assigned to ensure that everyone got their breaks at their scheduled times. On a madness day like that, I can imagine how crucial such organisation would be.
                          Seshat's self-help guide:
                          1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                          2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                          3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                          4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                          "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Seshat View Post
                            Wind and rain can be some of the most destructive powers on the planet.
                            Darn right. Those poor people in a village near me who saw their homes slide into the sea last year, could testify to that.
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                            • #15
                              When I was working at the red circle store they always had a break schedule set up. The cashiers were all broken into groups and had a cashier responsible for breaks for each group.
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