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  • The Sting

    The Store got stung earlier this week.

    And not even in the way you'd expect. We didn't sell tobacco to a minor. We didn't sell alcohol to a minor. We didn't sell booze to someone who was acting drunk, or fail to card an entire party, or do a wire transfer for someone who was acting suspicious.

    It was far more banal than that.

    One of our cashiers had a customer, who was actually an undercover WIC auditor, sign a WIC check before said cashier had written the dollar amount of the transaction in the appropriate space on the check.

    As it turns out, this is a major violation that has earned the Store a fine, because I guess some unscrupulous grocer could get someone to sign a blank form and fill in some imaginary sum of money in order to bilk the state out of a few dollars on the price of bread and milk and eggs. We're now at risk of multiple re-inspections which, in the event of failure, could cost us a six-figure fine or the suspension of our WIC license (either of which would be a massive blow and likely cost our boss his job). In any event, the word has come down from the store manager's overlords that, until such time as we can have an employee meeting and do some retraining, every WIC transaction is to be overseen and approved by a supervisor so we can ensure that the form is filled out in the right order.

    Lemme tell you, I never realized how many WIC transactions we do in an evening until I personally had to be present to approve every single one of them. I'd be at one register watching the clerk put through four checks for a customer, while two other registers were flagging me because they had multiple checks to put through. I wonder if it might be better for us to just designate one lane for WIC transactions and direct all those customers to that lane so that someone we trust can put them through - except that for every one person who finds that lane there'd be five other people who wander into other checkstands because they couldn't be bothered to read the signs.

    It's gonna be a long "first of the month" this month.

  • #2
    That stinks. Doesn't your state's WIC's place limits on the number of certain products? This sting sounds like some state money grab---not unlike a speed trap.
    I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

    Who is John Galt?
    -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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    • #3
      Until this mess gets fixed you need to put all WIC customers in one line, no matter how long it takes. Regular customers won't appreciate being held up...

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      • #4
        Wouldn't having to flag a supervisor for every WIC transaction just quadruple the amount of embarrassment for someone already insecure about using it?

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        • #5
          It is against the rules to designate a WIC lane. If you do that is considered discrimination and results in the same fine and possible suspension of lisence. My store lost its tribal wic lisence when I worked in retail for many different violations and that was one of them. We couldn't even send them to a register if they tried to do wic on the self check, we would have to take them at the self check register. It's a pain and it cost us huge fines. Proper training is rarely done and the stress of being reprimanded for mistakes leads to more mistakes.

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          • #6
            Our state does a card now so when you swipe it only covers the items its approved for the card no writing amount or anything now.

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            • #7
              Quoth raw1989 View Post
              Our state does a card now so when you swipe it only covers the items its approved for the card no writing amount or anything now.
              We're switching to that next year. It can't come soon enough.

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              • #8
                Quoth Smapti View Post
                We're switching to that next year. It can't come soon enough.
                That is what the Kroger I work at uses. It is much easier.

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                • #9
                  *wince*

                  Oh how I hated taking WIC checks. I can't even imagine telling a customer their check is invalid because they signed too early. I guarantee our store would have failed this audit. As it was, the cashiers were reprimanded for not filling out the checks JUST SO. Because WIC would reject oodles of checks and the store would eat the cost. Things like crossing a seven (which is how I write my sevens) was enough to reject the check.
                  A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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                  • #10
                    We never cared if they were had an amount on them before you signed them, you just had to sign them in front of us. Since our store was really small most of our customers were regulars so we knew who they were. It was only if we didn't know them that we paid attention to the rules.I was glad when they did away with the maximum amounts. That was a pain when we had to match ounces and make sure they they didn't spend above a certain amount for cereal. The only time that we got picky for everybody was if you had signed them before we even saw the voucher. We wanted to check them for dates first before you signed them and to make sure that you hadn't tired to cash them at another store.

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                    • #11
                      I wonder if all the hassle has something to do with existence of food deserts.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth snugglegirl05 View Post
                        That is what the Kroger I work at uses. It is much easier.
                        its not there choice the state has to change over and its a process we were told one date then they had problems and it was another date my daughter can still get wic but they were to much of a pain in the you know what for me to go back I was only using it for milk and they wanted the rx for my daughters whole milk to be a certain way um nvm bye see yah latter

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                        • #13
                          Quoth taxguykarl View Post
                          That stinks. Doesn't your state's WIC's place limits on the number of certain products?
                          Right now, the way it works is that you get a check that's good for a 30-day period, and it says on the front of the check exactly what you can get and in what size.

                          The thing is, there's people who hoard those checks. They'll come in with 5 checks that expire on that very day, and 5 more checks which start on that very day - and so you get hung up processing multiple transactions for potentially hundreds of dollars worth of baby formula. It seems like an abuse of the system to me, and I question whether those cans of formula are actually being used to feed their kids as opposed to winding up on the shelves of shiftily-managed bodegas, but it's above my pay grade to question the way the state and the corporate overlords expect things to be done.

                          This sting sounds like some state money grab---not unlike a speed trap.
                          The first violation is only a $500 fine on us, fortunately. (We make more than that in a minute most days.) If we made it to a third strike, we'd be looking at a $40,000 fine and/or a suspension of our WIC license, which would probably mean our store manager would be out of a job. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, because he's a great guy to work for and he knows what it's like to be on the lower rungs of the pecking order - he started with the company as a cart-pusher when he was a teenager and worked his way through the ranks to get to where he is now.

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                          • #14
                            I'm glad that at Fly Co we don't have to deal with WIC. It seems a bit problematic.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth flyonthewall View Post
                              I'm glad that at Fly Co we don't have to deal with WIC. It seems a bit problematic.
                              once its on a card its not a big deal it will only cover what it approved for and then you pay the remaining amount. When I was using wic I would put all my items together swipe my wic card then the next card. However with checks it has to be on its own order and the cashier has to check all the items to make sure they are allowed.

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