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  • sexist f*ckers will send me to an early grave... (long rant)

    in need of a behavioral psychologist! how should someone deal with "street harassment"? my situation is not technically workplace harassment, but it's close.

    everyday upon getting to work, the same douchebag group of men that hang out in front of my building, never fail to leer at me confrontationally and do the "psst psst" routine. this has been going on for a year and half now. yes, as my user id implies: i'm about ready to lose it.

    just to give you some context, this is a group of about 6 construction laborers that work for a flooring business which is right next door to my storefront. they just loiter in front of my storefront in the mornings (they're there before i even arrive to open up shop) until it's time for them to leave on a job. it's clear that they hang out in front of my store rather than their own in anticipation of my arrival, so there is no way of physically avoiding them. anyway, i've tried it all: i've said hello in a nice way, said "excuse me" in a neutral way as i've walked past them to get to my door, i've ignored them completely. they will not back down. i'm sure that my non-plussed demeanor has somehow offended their egos and now they are hell-bent on making me feel as uncomfortable as possible.

    listen, i can deal (barely) with the occasional sexist cheesy f*ck making a gross comment while i'm walking down the street - but EVERY MORNING, the same hard, lascivious stares and comments in my face by a whole group of guys... please excuse me when i say that i'd like to take a 2x4 to their balls and show them who's boss. (i'm sorry to any male readers who find that offensive, but i'm certain none of you could possibly be as gross as the cretins i speak of).

    i've considered going to their supervisor to say something but my instinct tells me not to - the fact that they seem angry now isn't a good sign, and to make them angrier seems foolhardy, as irrational machismo knows no temperance.

    from a psychological / b.f. skinner standpoint, do any of you think there's a way to behave on a social level to get these creatures to leave me the hell alone? i've taken from the rulebook of dealing with stalkers which says not to give any sort of reaction at all (positive or negative). chances are that their behavior will "spike" (get more intense) before they finally see that nothing will work to their satisfaction, then they'll get bored and eventually stop. well, i don't know what sort of behavioral curve we are on right now, but nothing is improving.

    even if you have no advice for me, it's all right. i just needed to decompress before dealing with these people again tomorrow morning...
    Last edited by wheresmysanity; 08-07-2007, 04:28 AM.

  • #2
    If it's been going on this long, their supervisor more than likely knows about it already. I would probably involve the law, if I could. There is no reason you should have to put up with shit like that.
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    • #3
      Harrasment is Harrasment. Jobsites require placards. One phonecall or a letter to the owners of the crew should calm them down a bit, if not shut them the hell up.

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      • #4
        I would involve the law. Or you could go to the supervisor of them and mention 3 words " Sexual Harassment & Lawyer", That should shut them up. If not, then keep good on your words. And no I did not get offensive, when you mentioned the 2x4 and balls.
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        • #5
          Call me Mrs Stupid, but why can't you simply go and speak to their boss and tell him to sort his labour crew out? I realise that you think this might make them get worse, but you've also said that you feel that their behaviour is going to get worse even if you do nothing. A quick word with the owner of the flooring company, and letting him know that his employees are causing trouble for you might be in order.

          You might also want to have a word with your local police. I doubt there is much they can do at this stage, but they might be able to come by in the morning and warn the men about loitering and harrassment, and also have a word with the owner of the business.
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          • #6
            If you work for a large corporation, call Corporate Security and give them dates, times and behaviors. Same goes for local cops. If you have coffee, a free cup of java for some friendly cops works wonders!

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            • #7
              Their boss probably already knows because he probably leers at women as well and advocates it himself.

              I feel for you. I totally do. I admire your perseverence and your ability to keep going and going to work and keep walking past them.

              If I were you, I would have quit my job already or had my father or guy friend escort me into the building or I would have already taken a 2x4 to their balls and whipped the smirks right off of their ugly mugs.
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              • #8
                Thanks to all for your comments and advice!

                Can you BELIEVE that these idiots were NOT in front of my store this morning??? I was all revved up and ready to unleash venom, but their truck wasn't parked in its usual spot - I think they left on an early job. I felt like doing cartwheels down my sidewalk. I swear, I really think the supportive vibes on this thread worked some cosmic magic for me.

                Their boss probably already knows because he probably leers at women as well and advocates it himself.
                This is true. I've seen their boss a couple times in the past and have wondered if he'd take my grievances seriously.

                I feel for you. I totally do. I admire your perseverence and your ability to keep going and going to work and keep walking past them.
                Thank you for saying this. But really, I have no choice but to deal. If it were an option, I'd sooner sky dive onto my store rooftop rather then walk past them each day.

                If I were you, I would have quit my job already or had my father or guy friend escort me into the building...
                This is what drives me insane. If I had a male escort with me (even just one male figure), they would NEVER treat me the way they do. But because I'm a single woman, it's like being a lamb among rabid wolves. On a totally different level, the idea of how they behave is terrifying.

                Anyway, thanks to EVERYONE for their input. Sometimes I need to hear objective feedback and advice in order to get my head in a common sense place. It is building my fortitude, for what it's worth, and it's also consoling to hear that a 2x4 to the balls sounds like a reasonable option to many!
                Last edited by NightAngel; 08-08-2007, 05:25 AM. Reason: Fixing Quote Tags

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                • #9
                  Call the cops. That's what they're there for. Ask if they can give you an escort one morning or two, that will make those asshats think twice about leering at you. While the officer is there, he can have a little "chat" with them about the consequences of sexual harassment.
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                  • #10
                    Speak to the boss first. If he does nothing then find a friendly lawyer who will not charge you to give him a call or write a letter making some veiled threats about lawsuits or restraining orders.

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                    • #11
                      I suggest you try talking to their boss, and take along a calm friend/coworker for support.

                      Either he realises that you're serious, and gets the lads to behave, or it gives you more ammo when you call the cops/a lawyer.

                      (I work in the building industry, all the troublemakers I've met genuinely didn't realise they were upsetting people, and shut the heck up once I or their wives had words. Did I tell you how we got the topless calendars out of the office? )

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                      • #12
                        Wheresmysanity,

                        I would talk to your boss. Have your boss talk to their boss. Your boss is required to provide a safe workplace. I don't mean you need to get on his/her (sorry, I don't know your situation) case, but explain that you don't feel safe, and that you are scared to talk to the supervisor, as you think it will just make it worse, especially as you are working alone at least part of the day.

                        Having your boss do it will make more of an impression.
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                        • #13
                          I find acting either totally oblivious or giving as good as you get works wonders.

                          For oblivious:

                          "Hey, baby."
                          (Looks around.)
                          "Sorry, not my name. Must have me cofused with someone else."

                          Giving as good as I get is extremely fun.

                          "Is your husband big?"
                          "Dunno. Don't have a basis of comparison. But he knows the combination to my lock and that's all that matters."

                          "Aren't you a little curious about what another man would be like?"
                          "Nope!"

                          I carry around various Luis Royo artbooks. (Spanish fantasy artist that likes to paint risqué pictures of women, some of them boinking demons.) I wear all kinds of anime Tshirts and am very frank about some of the gorier series I've watched (Elfin Lied never fails to impress). I advertise about my fabled S&M-themed M:tG deck. And I have a Quinton Hoover shirt with a very alluring cat-girl wearing only a pair of thigh-high boots and opera gloves and kneeling over a ball of yarn.

                          Most of the troglodytes that want to hit on me quickly run in the other direction when they perceive me as a freak. And those that like freaks learn very quickly that they have no chance with me.
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                          • #14
                            You can take a proverbial 2X4 to their nads, with the right choice of words. Damaging the ego, but I don't know if it would work in this case. Like after all of the crap just say "And if I let you, would you even know what to do?" and leave without giving them a chance to answer. But with guys like this, it might just be adding gasoline to the fire. I'd say get the authorities involved and mention Sexual Harrassment Lawsuit to the boss. And keep that promise if it doesn't stop after you get the cops, warn them, go through all the red tape. Good luck with the beasts.
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                            • #15
                              Have a friend discretely film them from a distance as you walk in (maybe you could wear a bluetooth mic or something). Then show their boss the film and mention sexual harrassment and lawyers.

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