Weird IDs

[lastofthesummerwine]

I'm the most paranoid goon ever when it comes to checking IDs. The ATF sent decoys through my line on two separate occasions. No sale.

I was told not to honor Mexican IDs, either. Seems they're considered a joke even in Mexico. Anyone else heard this?

[Jester]

This is officially my new favorite smiley. Would one of the wonderful, glorious, and amazingly nice mods consider adding this to our regular repertoire?

[daleduke17]

This brings back one of my "better" memories from the grocery store. Now, just for a refresher, the second store I worked at was located across the street from one university, and just south of another. As you can guess, the clientele had a vast array of ages. Including the children who liked to use their older sibling's ID cards. Well, one night I have been chosen to cover self-scan for the operator's break. It was a weekend, and as such the liquor was flowing out of our store at a steady clip. Well, here comes little Suzy up to purchase her intoxicating spirits. She comes up to me at the attendant stand and we have this conversation:

ME - well, yeah
LSD - Little Suzy Dumbass

ME: Hi. Can I see your ID?
LSD: Ok. *hands me ID*
ME: Ok, miss, what's your birthdate?
LSD: Well, um, uh.....May 2?
ME: No.
LSD: May 8?
ME: No. Sorry, no booze.
LSD: *Stomps, turns, grabs her purse and storms out*
ME: *laughs*

I will have to say, she was close. I think it was May 22, or something like that. Unfortunately I didn't confiscate the ID. Oh well. The best part was seeing a college age girl stammer on one thing she SHOULD know. Oh well.

[Plaidman]

My gawd I get tons of fake IDs.

Some of my favorites were.

Girl gives me ID. I look at it. The picture is her. The age could be hers. The girl was about 5'4, 102ish. Her ID said she was 6'3, 220 lbs, and MALE. She then says the DMV made a mistake, but will only give her a new one if she pays for it.
Whatever.

Guy once gave me a piece of paper with handwritten DOB, Name etc. I laughed him out of the store.

Girl gave me her medical bracelet that she saved JUST for me. (Yeah, apperently EVERYONE in the store sells her booze cept me, and she looks like like she's 16, and I'm the big meanie....

Prison dispatch papers. Get those ALOT. Don't work.

Guy gave me his real ID. He wasn't old enough. He said he thought it might work.

Girl gave me a ID that was broken in about a million places and taped together. Her names did not match. (Oregon has it twice), in edition that it WAS BROKEN.


ANd that's just a few....

[Imogene]

I have a personal story, vaguely related.

I was at a particular movie store the other night (and found two amazing deals, Aeon Flux box set for $13, and Fantasia 2000, one of my favorite movies ever!) and used my debit card for them. My debit card is both signed, and has 'See ID' on it. However, it has my nickname, as opposed to my full name, as that's the name my account is in.

My driver's license, which is from a different state, and still valid, has my legal name.

Can you see where this is going?

Register jockey asks for my ID when I give her my debit card, and she just kind of stares at my ID for a while. I can see the confusion on her face, and say, "Last four letters of my first name," just as she's about to hand both back to me.

She blinks, looks again, and understanding dawns. "Ah, I was confused."

"I know."

I will be so glad when I get my name legally changed.

[Jester]

Guy gave me his real ID. He wasn't old enough. He said he thought it might work.

It actually works more often than you might think.

I often tell my under 21 friends the best way to get served if they don't have a fake ID is to just walk into the place like you own it, like you are supposed to be there....attitude is a lot of it, actually. Hell, I don't look my own age, never have, and was getting served at 18. Why? I wasn't like a lot of these pansy, nervous, trying to get served punks who meekly order a strawberry daiquiri, thinking that since it is ONLY a strawberry daiquiri, they might have a chance. They don't. Myself, I would sit down, look at the drink list, and when the server came over, look him firmly in the eye and ask, "What do you have on draft?" I almost never got carded. It simply shocked my (nervous underaged) roommate every time.

This same attitude will often get people who are almost 21 served, especially if the server doesn't take the time to do the math, or just gives the ID a cursory glance, as they often will if you hand it to them like it is no big deal, as any 21+ year old would. Again, attitude.

Perfect example from my own life: Years ago, when I had just started dating Blondie, she and I and four of my friends went to a bar to watch the Super Bowl. My four friends and I were all 21+. Blondie had just turned 20 in December, and it was now January...only a month later, but the next calendar year. So before we even entered the bar, we told Blondie two things. If we got carded, 1. just hand over your ID like you should be getting served, no big deal, and 2. hand over your ID last of the six of us. So, we order drinks, the server thinks for a moment, asks for IDs, and all six of us break out....Blondie never blinking, and handing hers last. The server looked at Blondie's ID, and I could see two things: the wheels were turning, but they weren't turning that well. She couldn't do that math! (December birthdays often throw people when it's January!) She handed Blondie's ID back to her and said, "I'll be right back with those drinks."

The amusing thing about handing someone a real but underaged ID is people are so used to looking for FAKES that when they get a real one, they often won't examine the AGE all that closely. Very few people expect an underaged person to hand them an underaged ID. And so, surprisingly often, it works.

[Broomjockey]

I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that underage drinking is illegal and we do not condone illegal activity on these boards, nor do we condone people advising people on how to get away with illegal activity.

[Jester]

I advise only my friends on how to do that.

I present my comments on that in the hopes that people here who DO have to check ID will remember to take the time to do the math, check the ID, and do their jobs correctly, thus keeping themselves from getting in any kind of trouble with their employer or the legal authorities.

If you know how the "enemy" works, you are better armed to defeat them.

EDITED TO ADD: In the words of Sun Tzu, author of the ancient and venerable "Art of War":

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him.

The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable.

And finally:

If you know the enemy and know yourself, your victory will not stand in doubt; if you know Heaven and know Earth, you may make your victory complete.

All of these are applicable to this thread, and to carding people in general.

Okay, this has been far too serious for a freakin' Jester. Time to do something silly. Lesse, I'm going to need a catapault, a jar of honey, a fig, and ten D cell batteries.....

[Plaidman]

I never really had a problem doing the math in my head. It isn't super hard.

In anycase, the big bad registar won't scan any beer/tabacco product until it ether
A: Scans and ID, or
B: Has a birthday manually enterned into it.

So that even the people out there that can't do it, just enters the BDay, and the register will shout STOP: UNDERAGE!!!!!

[Jester]

True enough, Plaid, but not everyone has a register like that. Heck, not everyone has a register when they are carding. Servers, for example!

[Plaidman]

True enough, Plaid, but not everyone has a register like that. Heck, not everyone has a register when they are carding. Servers, for example!

Darn you and your infernal knowledge! I Get you next time Gad-... er Jester!! Next Time!! *Flies away with Cat*

[Zoe1975]

I had one WHo Ran IN like a BAt out of hell ( district manager happen to stop by to he was in the back saw all this go down) with her Birth Cert. and HER libary Card from HER HIGH SCHOOL!!!! HEllo??? i dont care i need a Picture ID!
There is my picture there is my birth! YA right ok! YOUR not fooling me ...who carries there Birth Cert.? realy!!!


NO sale!!

all mad!!
ran out
swearing SHE WILL HAVE MY JOB!!!( i love that line)

I got a Good JOB pin From the MAnager!

[Jester]

"I'll have your job!"

Are you sure you could HANDLE it?

[Racket_Man]

Actually, "state" refers to any entity with an independent or semi-independent government. Thus, states and commonwealths in the USA are ok, as are other countries' ID's. Since passports are the most easily verifiable ID form from other countries (as most people, at least in the US, don't know what other countries' ID's look like) they are almost always accepted.

here in Green Bay there are several Native American reservations. since each is considered in a way, an independant "state" they can and do issue their own tribe ID cards with picture birth date, etc. they also issue vehicle license plates. the old ID cards were laminated and could be easily altered. I do not know if it was just our group of gas stations but we were not allowed to take the tribal ID's

[ahanix1989]

Green Bay is too far away...


I never worked the front registers, but one time I was impuslively working over about $80 worth of scratch-off tickets (I had just turned 18 and didn't want to head home) behind the counter.... girl I recognized as being a total bitch tried buying alcohol, handed the cashier her ID, and he started to reach for the bottle under the counter.... I just looked up and said "She's 17. We are in the same class."

Win.