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  • No wonder they quit..

    One of the other trainers, Bob, is worthless, to say the least. He is very overbearing, overly patronizing, and he treats all of his trainees like babies. Granted, sometimes when I get trainees like DipShit, I have to talk down to them as well, but not all of them.

    Bob hovers over all of his trainees the entire shift. Once my trainees are ok on their own, I leave them alone and work next to them, just in case they need help. I figure most people don't want someone breathing down their neck all night.

    Bob makes his trainees very uncomfortable. He actually YELLS at them. One big rule where I work regarding trainers is that we remind, we do not enforce. We do not have the power nor the authority to be yelling at anyone. Granted, there are special circumstances where someone can honestly lose it, but we are NOT to be yelling at people. Bob constantly yells at his trainees to "Slow down!" or on the other hand "You're too slow!"......he freaks out about his trainees' numbers, even though while they are training, their numbers are meaningless. All that matters is that they are trying to get better and working as hard as they can.

    Bob will yell at his trainees for being a minute late from break. I never do that. Unless it becomes an issue, I don't say anything other than "Just be a little more careful next time."

    I never yell at my trainees to go faster, slow down, and I never get on their backs about being too slow. I only worry about their numbers if they've been there for a while and they are getting lazy.

    I asked my mentor why he does this, and she said "I think he's just trying to protect their jobs and keep them from getting fired."

    Well, that's the wrong way to go about it. Granted, I lost it with Naughty Boy and I never put any effort into saving DipShit, with everyone else, I've never yelled at a trainee or called them names or threatened them. If I think people are watching them or they risk being in trouble, I say "Look, I'm only telling you this because I'm on your side and I'm trying to protect you.....just put a little more effort into not talking so much and getting more work done. If you need help doing that, just ask, ok?" and guess what? A few of my trainees whom people once swore up and down would be fired were saved. They trusted me and let me protect and help them, and they ended up getting better.

    What's also unfair about it is that Bob has the worst turnover rate with trainees. Nearly all of his quit, and the ones that stay give him awful ratings on surveys that newbies take regarding their trainers. Bob SHOULD have gotten a poor review. Instead, he's the most reveered out of all of us.

    Ben and I lost points because of bad trainees, even though we lose the least amount of them. Ben and I keep our cool and have been able to keep many from being fired, and overall, we are the best. We treat our trainees like human beings deserve to be treated. Bob can treat them like garbage and be a hero.

    It's not fair. No wonder all of his trainees quit.
    You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

  • #2
    You can't treat trainees like shit & expect them to stick around. Yelling at someone never did anyone any good. How is someone supposed to learn anything if you got a moronic trainer making you feel as if you need to be on the defensive?

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    • #3
      Don't ask me. I may come across as really anti-training and negative on here, but on the job, I never treat people that bad (obviously because I come here to rant). The way he trains people really disgusts me. Bob actually trained me a year or so ago, and I didn't tolerate the way he yelled at me or called me "slow". I was being borrowed in that department, so all I did was ask my boss if I could come back, and he said yes. Thank goodness.

      The reason I know this is because Bob's trainees have came to Ben and me practically in tears or on the verge of quitting. Some of them used to be our trainees, which is even worse, because that's when Ben and I get the most upset is when Bob takes former trainees of ours and treats them like dirt.
      You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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      • #4
        Hell I would quit also. Breathing down someones neck is never a good idea
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        • #5
          I feel for the trainees. When I was on my "training" trips (driving a truck) with my at the time soon to be ex-husband he pulled that sh*t with me. Major battles, my driving sucked, and we split as soon as the "training" was over. For some odd reason I did great once I got him the h*ll off the truck.

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          • #6
            that's what I like about training where I work... the first few days on the phones the trainers are hovering in the background, but you can tell they are more there to be able to help nearly instantly and to make sure that we don't do something too terribly stupid (hardly breathing down your neck) then after about 2 or 3 days at most (depending on the class) they simply disappear and put up a sign in the training cubicles saying if you need help dial xxxx... they were around the corner and could be there in 30 seconds if need be (and we knew it), and I have to admit it was kinda scary not having that support there, but it was nice to know that they trusted you.
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            • #7
              I felt horrible for my newbie last night, because even though he is struggling with the initial setup and process, once he gets going, he does alright. He only needs help when he needs to load a new job into the machine. But Ann scheduled me to sit and watch him all night. So for a while last night, I had to hover. And I felt awful.

              Thankfully, another employee didn't show for their overtime, so I was able to nab another machine and get some extra work done, while at the same time being only a few feet away to help him.
              You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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              • #8
                there's never any call for name-calling. all it does is belittle the worker and make the supervisor look like an ass.

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                • #9
                  All I have asked from my supervisor is to never yell at me and/or tell me to calm down.

                  I will not tolerate being yelled at for any reason, unless I'm on fire. That is just disrespectful. I would never yell at my supervisor and I expect the same courtesy.

                  I don't care if someone on the phone is yelling, because they are not standing in front of me and I can just hang up on them if I so chose.

                  If I'm upset there is very good reason for it and telling me to calm down seems like the other person is not taking how I'm feeling seriously. I hardly ever get upset, so if I am it took a lot to get me there.

                  There is nothing more disrespectful or rude than to yell at someone who is going to make mistakes. What does yelling at them do? It's just makes a hostile work environment and should not be tolerated.

                  I can never think of any reason for a trainer to call the person they are training names. Isn't that a serious HR problem?
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                  • #10
                    Sounds like my trainer at times at work. I just want to cry sometimes, and I wrote a letter to the boss about it (See my letter in Morons in Management) though I haven't sent it. I feel better just writing it though.
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