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    Hi, Guys and Gals.


    I have a problem at work that I would like to discuss. Unfortunately I am not able to give too many details at this time, but I would like your feedback.


    About eight years ago I started working as a private contractor for this company and everything was fine.


    Approximately two years ago the branch manager's niece, who had a low level part-time supervisory role in the company, as well as a substance abuse problem, was caught stealing by managers from the corporate office. She was summarily fired by corporate management, yet the branch manager, who has a thirty year personal relationship with the corporate owners was left untouched.


    My problems began when corporate management replaced the calm and competent substance abusing supervisor, with a contractor from among the ranks of the workers.


    The new part-time supervisor, a forty-something year-old who I will call Michael, has worked for this company since 1991 and is a bona fide emotionally disturbed person, with a looong list of personality disorders.


    During my first weeks with the company I learned there was something very wrong with Michael when an eighteen year-old female customer informed me she and her sixteen year-old sister were subjected to inappropriate sexual comments made to them by Michael. This customer informed me that after dealing with Michael she took a long shower in an attempt to clean off the filth she was subjected to....and still felt dirty after bathing.


    Over the next five years I listened to countless customers describe their experiences and observations of Michael, which included:


    1) Referring to customers (in the presence of other customers) as Jews, niggers, gooks and spics. As well as making other totally inappropriate ethnic slurs or racist remarks.


    2) Making inappropriate sexual comments, or asking sexually related questions of female customers whose ages range from fourteen years-old to sixty-years old.


    3) Stealing from customers by overcharging them for the service we provide.


    One customer, a sixty-something year-old woman told me about the time she was alone with Michael and he asked her if she wanted to make-out with him. When I questioned the veracity of her allegation she became upset with me and told me not to accuse her of lying.


    Several other female customers, whose ages range from fourteen years old to fifty years-old told me that when they were alone with Michael he made comments to them about their "titties."


    One woman even told me Micheal asked her if he could see and touch her breasts. Again, when I questioned the veracity of her allegation this woman became upset with me and told me not to accuse her of lying.


    The list of complaints about Micheal goes on and on. I asked these customers if they called the company and made a complaint against Michael. Some informed they did call the company and some said they did not bother complaining to management about Michael's egregious conduct.


    Even though I knew Michael's behavior was effecting the business and the way some people viewed me, I kept my mouth shut because it was blatantly obvious that branch management, as well as corporate management were aware of Michael's behavior, yet they were willing to ignore the numerous complaints lodged against him.


    During the first year I worked for this company, and after listening to countless complaints about Michael, I decided I did not want anything to do with this sick person. When he attempted to talk to me I would walk away from him because I did not want our customers thinking I was friends with this EDP. He did not get the hint, so one day during my first year with the company, I told him straight to his face that I think he is a sick man and I would appreciate it if he stayed away from me.


    He did not seem fazed by my comment to him but he did stay away from me.


    Then, four years later when the company made him my supervisor for three days of my work week, I figured Michael would retaliate and I would have to find another job. I was wrong. Though this is when the real nightmare began.


    One day, a customer who grew up and went to elementary school with Michael approached me and while laughing his butt off asked me who the lunatic is that put Michael in charge of the business. This customer informed me that Michael was a sick kid in elementary school and he has gotten worse over the years.


    The customer stated that Michael was the kind of person that did not know when to keep his mouth shut and that even when he was being beaten up for shooting his mouth off, he would antagonize his assailant(s) by saying things like, "what's the matter with you, you can't hit me any harder?"


    During his first week as supervisor Michael asserted his new-found authority by placing his sickness on display for all to see. He started by yelling and screaming at the top of his lungs at workers and customers who did not follow his instructions to the T. He made comments intended to demean and humiliate both customers and workers.


    I personally witnessed him screaming at customers who have difficulty with the English language by admonishing them to, "speak English, you dumb f#$k."


    He talks to many of his subordinates in the same manner. Though there are a few workers that Michael does not treat harshly. When I asked these workers why he does not demean and berate them as badly as he does others, I was told they approached Michael and threatened him with bodily harm if he continues..that is not my style. I consider myself a peaceful, law-abiding citizen.


    Honestly, I like the type of work I do and felt that I should not have to leave this company and start over with a new company. So I hung in with this company, confident that Michael would not last long. Again, I was wrong.


    Finally, after eighteen months of being abused and listening to countless customers relate their stories of abuse at the hands of Michael, I went to my branch manager and made a simple request. I asked the manager if he would please tell Michael to show me the same respect that he shows the managers in the company.


    About two weeks later the branch manager approaches me and says he did not want to cause problems for me by mentioning my name, but he did ask Michael to be more respectful toward his subordinates. Unfortunately, nothing changed, even though the manager has access to three video cameras and one microphone that captures and memorializes onto DVD, Michael's work area.


    That same year, during the Christmas holiday, after listening to countless customer complaints and watching Michael talk to customers as if they were morons, I finally flipped out. I went into the managers office and at the top of my LUNGS told him that Michael is a sexual predator, racist and thief....and I was going to the corporate office to report his conduct.


    A few days later I went to the company's corporate office and had a sit down with the president of the company. This is when I learned why Michael was able to get away with his sickening immoral and illegal conduct.


    After presenting the president with evidence that included secretly taped conversations of women, teens and others describing in their own words Michael's conduct, the president looked me in the eye and said, "You don't expect me to fire a much respected veteran of XXXXX XXXXX, do you?"


    It was at this time that I realized the stories and rumors about the president's history with the company were probably true.


    One story is that when he was a manager with the company, without sufficient provocation, he punched out a worker and intimidated another worker who witnessed the assault into keeping her mouth shut.


    Another former worker related to me a story about how he witnessed the president, then manager, berate and make fun of a company supervisor who was living with a severe physical handicap.


    As this meeting with the president "progressed" it became more obvious to me the president was almost as disturbed as the man I came to complain about.


    During this meeting the president listened to three teenage girls describe Michael commenting about one of their fifteen year-old freind's "titties."


    The president became upset with me and questioned the legality of the recording, as well as the character of the fifteen year-old children who described their encounter with Michael, a forty-plus year-old man.


    After this meeting I returned home and about one hour later I received a call from my branch manager who informed me the president would like to talk with me again.


    The next morning I showed up for the meeting and was confronted by the president, a corporate manager and my branch manager.


    During this meeting they all smiled at me while suggesting I was a bad guy for secretly collecting evidence of Michael's conduct. The president informed me he spoke with his attorney and did not want me recording customers because it may be an invasion of people's privacy.


    I almost laughed in their faces at this one.


    Here I am bringing them solid evidence that one of their employees is completely out of control and poses a major liability to the company, yet they ignore this evidence, and instead chose to chastise me for engaging in conduct that is perfectly legal in our state, as well as thirty seven other states.


    During this meeting the president and managers assured me they would have a sit down with Michael and straighten him out. In order to gauge their sincerity I asked the president if he would stop by the local office (which is located about two miles from corporate HQ's) and review the office surveillance tapes to insure Michael was complying.


    Again, I almost laughed in the president's face when he informed me he was much too busy securing million dollar deals and did not have the time to closely monitor Michael's conduct.


    Think about it. Here is a guy that is so important and competent at his job that he negotiates million dollars deals, but the best he can do when hiring a supervisor is Michael??? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    During this meeting I asked the branch manager how many complaints a week he receives in relation to Michael. The manager looked me in the eye and replied, "none."


    I smiled at him and with an incredulous tone to my voice asked, "you never received one complaint about Michael?" Again, he smiled at me and said he never received a complaint about Michael.


    During this meeting I suggested that since they placed Michael on the payroll and gave him health insurance coverage, that maybe they should strongly suggest he see a mental health professional to help him with his problem.


    Both the president and branch manager became visibly annoyed at me while saying there is no need to because there is nothing wrong with Michael.


    During this meeting I asked the president and managers why they will not replace Michael. They stated they have no other workers who are qualified to replace him.


    That is not true. This is where we come to the corporation's reason for keeping Michael in his low level supervisory role.


    There are at least two other workers who competently perform Michael's duties when Michael is off. Due to the low pay scale offered for this position, neither of these two workers are willing to perform these duties on a full-time basis.


    So the bottom line is these corporate managers are willing to ignore and exploit Michael's sick and predatory behavior in order to save five or six dollars an hour.


    After this second meeting I show up for work and Michael comes out of his office and informs me that until further notice I am no longer working his shift...and that if I want to continue working there it will have to be on the days Michael is not supervising.


    I have to tell you I was upset. Two of the shifts that Michael works are the best money making days of the week. I spent three years working Sundays before being permitted to change my days off to include Sunday. Now I am being forced to work Sundays once again so this company can continue to exploit this sick man.


    The first thing I did was contact a customer who is just as annoyed with Michael's conduct as I am. She works for a labor attorney and gave me her employers phone number. The attorney informs me that I have rights under the whistle-blower law and that he would be glad to assist me in suing the company.


    Frankly, I'd prefer to live without anymore drama so I changed my shift and now work for a wonderful man who is polite and respectful toward most everyone.


    It's been over a year since I changed my shift and while I have suffered a financial loss, I no longer work for Michael. Though I still hear workers and customers complaining about him on a near daily basis.


    I should mention that when Michael is not performing his duties as a supervisor he works in the same capacity as I do. The law requires that I be licensed by the local political jurisdiction and that I be of sound mind and good health. Rumor has it that Michael has been banned from most establishments that serve alcohol within a ten mile radius of where he resides.


    In the last few weeks a competing company that provides the same service as mine has moved into the community. This competition is stressing out the managers in my company, but they still refuse to terminate Michael.


    This past week I informed my branch manager that a regular customer, a business woman with a Masters Degree, was victimized by another contractor (not Michael) when he asked her what color panties she was wearing. This customer assured me she informed three different people in the manager's office of this encounter.


    When I told the branch manager about this incident he informed he knows nothing about her complaint and he is too busy to take on any more work by investigating her complaint. And that unless she comes and makes her complaint directly to him he is going to do nothing about it. (stand-up man, huh?)


    Here is my quandary. Like I said I try not to make waves and would prefer to remain below the radar. BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....


    I see this as an opportunity to publicly expose a corporation that intentionally created a hostile work and business environment by subjecting it's workers and customers to a very sick sexual predator, racist and thief.


    I'm fairly certain my state's Human Rights Commission would be interested in my story and the evidence I collected to justify my concerns...and I am 100% confident if I report Michael's conduct to the political jurisdiction that licenses him, he will lose his license...as he should.


    My problem is that I'm unsure of how to proceed.


    Like I said, I enjoy my current job...but I really would like to teach a lesson to the unsavory characters who are exploiting this sick man in order to save a few dollars on a paycheck.


    Folks, I assure you that I am not skewing any of the comments I have offered here. Excepting the eighteen year-old who claims Michael made her feel dirty, I have reliable evidence to support each and every claim I've made.


    Any opinions?

  • #2
    Frankly, if it were me, I'd go get a job at the new competitor and run your current employer into the ground. That would be real justice to me.

    But, as you're not me (fortunate you!), I can't really tell you how to go. They have done financial harm to you over a guy who sounds like a real schmuck. You sound like you have a case. Perhaps even a good one. But if you proceed, you face a long trial, removal from your current job, and the possibility of having a hard time finding a new job in your field. This is not an easy call. You'll have to follow your heart and your head on this one. I would really suggest leaving your current position for the competitor, though.
    The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
    "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
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    • #3
      I second Geek King. Join up with the competitors!
      Everything will be ok in the end. If it's not ok, it's not the end.

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      • #4
        a little off topic, but i find it funny that you won't censor racial slurs, but you do the work fuck.....

        but back to on topic.

        I know it feels comfortable to "not rock the boat" so to speak. But i would look at it like this: If someone doesn't step up and do something about it no one will..

        what's the quote in the beginning of boondock saints? The one about it being a worse sin to turn a blind eye than it is to speak up about a wrong? Anyway... you do what you gotta do, it's hard to take advice from the internet. But if i had as strong a case as you say you have, i would take it to the courts and let your current company pay for what they know they're doing wrong. Then go work for the competitors

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        • #5
          Do something. Its more than obvious the entire hierachy is covering this one nutcase. It doesn't help that the pres may be nuts himself. Be a knight in shining armor to all the women he had harassed because their complaints are falling on deaf ears.

          Hell, *I* would call you a hero. In all honesty, I'm surprised you haven't done anything of real substance already.
          ...how do used tampons attract thieves? ---Sleepwalker

          Chickens are Asexual!

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          • #6
            Go back to the labor attorney. Tell him you don't want to sue, but you're willing to pay for his time. Then ask him what your options are.

            You could have taken your records to your labor board at any time. You still could. It's free. Then the government is responsible for the investigation and you're out of it.

            Go to the competition and wash your hands of the whole rotten mess.
            Labor boards have info on local laws for free
            HR believes the first person in the door
            Learn how to go over whackamole bosses' heads safely
            Document everything
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            • #7
              and im thinking.... dont bother with the company route anymore. they're obviously not interested in fixing him

              the next time he makes a sexual remark to a minor, just call the cops instead

              being a vet does not excuse behavior like that. if anything it's a disgrace to all the other vets out there, especially if it's intentional.

              if it's purely mental issues that he has "no control" over, then yeah he needs treatment, not encouragement to misbehave.

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              • #8
                If you really don't want to rock the boat (I'd have capsized that sucker years ago, if it were me), you could get information on who to make formal complaints of sexual harrassment and hand them out to customers and let them do the boat-rocking.

                Seriously, though, I wouldn't have worked there for more than a year with that shit going on around me. Not a chance in hell.

                ^-.-^
                Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                • #9
                  I don't know that I could be in your situation for so long without doing something, but I fully understand why you haven't.

                  That being said, in your situation, I would fell that it was my moral and civic duty, to make Micheal stop.

                  From what you've said about him, it is not a matter of if he hurts someone, but when. If the company won't do anything about him, someone has to.

                  I'd go to a labor attorney and ask him what my options are. Then I'd pick one. Since you don't want to make a scene, I'd pick the one with the least personal involvement, perhaps bringing your information to the local labor board, as someone else suggested.

                  I (not a lawyer) believe you have grounds for a civil suit, especially if you can get the women he has harassed involved, even if the company hasn't broken a criminal laws.
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                  • #10
                    If I were you, I'd jump ship yesterday. Even if I have to take a bit of a pay cut to do it.

                    The company has put this racist, sexual-harassing, thieving pig in a prominent role in your job, and evidently intend to let him continue being a racist, sexual-harassing, thieving pig. He probably ought to be receiving intensive mental treatment, but if he doesn't want it it can't be forced on him.

                    Sometimes, companies won't sack an individual who causes other people to up and leave. It doesn't look like that will be happening.

                    As far as going to the labor boards with the evidence, I personally would do that, but if you don't want to at least get out if you can. Even if you don't report this guy to them, someday somebody else will, and some major poo will hit the spinny thing, and you don't want their problem to become your problem.
                    Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                    "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                    • #11
                      I'm baffled as to how a company, especially in this rather litigious and politically correct time, has not taken action to do anything about this. Protected employee or not, there are some serious allegations here. Were I looking for employment elsewhere, I'd be wondering if you could supply the name of this company so I didn't inadvertently apply there.

                      I really find it incredible that such is allowed to continue.

                      Rapscallion

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                      • #12
                        I am simply shocked that you have all this physical evidence, and an attorney has not sucked your toes for the privilege of taking this case.

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                        • #13
                          I don't really understand this story at all. It just seems too fantastically f**ked up to wrap my head around it.

                          Why do you appear to be the only one these customers are complaining to, or the only one who seems to be taking the complaints seriously and are willing to do something about it?

                          If the rest of your coworkers are aware of the situation, why are you the only one willing to go to the mat?

                          Why is it just your word against management when it comes to this?
                          You say you have reliable proof, but I don't understand why your reliable proof isn't convincing enough for management.

                          If I was any one of those women to whom he made those disgusting comments, I would be on the phone to upper management, and if that didn't work, I would go public to the police to press charges for lewd behaviour and indecency or sexual harrassment, and I would alert the media about this company.
                          I just don't get it at all that he has asked women about their underwear, talked about their breasts, and made other inappropriate sexual comments, yet they are all willing to just let it slide?
                          Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Geek King View Post
                            Frankly, if it were me, I'd go get a job at the new competitor and run your current employer into the ground. That would be real justice to me.
                            Gotta agree here.





                            That place is beyond up on so many levels.

                            There is no amount of money that would keep me there.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth Geek King
                              Frankly, if it were me, I'd go get a job at the new competitor and run your current employer into the ground. That would be real justice to me.
                              Hello, GK.

                              Agreed....100%

                              Unfortunately, a few years back another competitor made a bid to get a foot hold and failed.

                              Thanks for taking the time to respond.

                              CorDarei wrote:

                              Quoth CorDarei
                              what's the quote in the beginning of boondock saints? The one about it being a worse sin to turn a blind eye than it is to speak up about a wrong?
                              Hi, CD.

                              You nailed my predicament. It's bugging me to turn a blind eye realizing this sick man continues to share his sickness.

                              I am keeping a close eye on the competition and hoping they make it. I really want to burn the lowlifes who for their own benefit, exploit Michael and allow him to continue victimizing innocent people.

                              Thanks for your comments. Oh, yeah...I believe adults sharing a mature discussion should not have to censor their words. I censored fuck because most boards automatically censor that word.

                              Quoth zzapp the witch

                              Hell, *I* would call you a hero. In all honesty, I'm surprised you haven't done anything of real substance already.

                              The most substantive action I've taken is handing the president a DVD with 140 conversations I recorded with our customers.

                              Handing this same DVD over to the appropriate authority will cost me my job. Unfortunately I don't have the guts or fortitude to take that next step...at this time.

                              Quoth Andara Bledin
                              If you really don't want to rock the boat (I'd have capsized that sucker years ago, if it were me), you could get information on who to make formal complaints of sexual harrassment and hand them out to customers and let them do the boat-rocking.
                              Hello, Andara.

                              Over the last five years I've given many customers the phone number to the government agency that approves and issues Michael's license to work.

                              I never heard a peep form anyone in the company that would lead me to believe Michael was the subject of an official investigation. Which leads me to believe no one has lodged a complaint against him with the appropriate authority.

                              Thanks for replying.

                              Quoth Rapscallion
                              I'm baffled as to how a company, especially in this rather litigious and politically correct time, has not taken action to do anything about this.
                              Hi, Rap.

                              The first time I ever spoke with the president of the company he asked me to sign a blank official government document that he stated he would prepare for me before filing it with the government. When I told him I could not do that he fired me on the spot; until I advised him that he just committed an act of criminal coercion against me.

                              After hearing this he changed his tune and I signed the document only after he prepared it and I approved his wording.

                              So, from my first encounter with this man I knew he was a buttwipe, just as many others with time on the job had informed me.

                              Protected employee or not, there are some serious allegations here. Were I looking for employment elsewhere, I'd be wondering if you could supply the name of this company so I didn't inadvertently apply there.
                              Sorry I can't reveal that info at this time. Though at the appropriate time, I promise I will post a link to the website I am creating in relation to this matter. This site will display the names of the players, as well as the actual recorded conversations I had with Michael's victims.

                              Quoth Ree
                              I don't really understand this story at all. It just seems too fantastically f**ked up to wrap my head around it.
                              Hi, Ree.

                              So you agree this thread is appropriately named? <grin>


                              Why do you appear to be the only one these customers are complaining to, or the only one who seems to be taking the complaints seriously and are willing to do something about it?

                              I am sorry if I gave the impression I am the only one customers complain to. That is not the case. As I wrote, the company refuses to listen to customer complaints about Michael.

                              I was willing to report Michael's conduct to corporate HQ because I am a decent human being who does not like seeing people being victimized. I can't speak for my fellow contractors.


                              If the rest of your coworkers are aware of the situation, why are you the only one willing to go to the mat?
                              Because I have an innate sense of trying do the right thing for my fellow man...when I can. Sounds corny, but thats just the way I am. Which prolly explains why I've had more than a few gut wrenching episodes over this subject.


                              Why is it just your word against management when it comes to this?
                              My words are not relevant to this topic. The words of our customers that I recorded and presented to management are the only words they should need to hear.


                              You say you have reliable proof, but I don't understand why your reliable proof isn't convincing enough for management.
                              Because the president of the company, who rose thru the ranks, is full of himself and in his mind can do no wrong. He also has a sick penchant for chewing up and spitting out his workers whenever he feels like it.

                              He tried it with me when he wanted me to sign a blank document. I took great pride in putting him in his place when he tried to fire me when I refused to sign the document.

                              I took great pride in fukking with his head by handing him a DVD, marked COPYWRITED MATERIAL, depicting 140 customers candidly telling me about their experiences with Michael.

                              This friggin Narcissus was left speechless as I whipped out my mp3 player and wireless transmitter, tuned his FM radio to 88.3 on the dial and started playing a recording were a mom and daughter describe how Michael inappropriately touched the then fifteen year-old girl....with her mom only a few feet away.

                              The next recording I played for him was a conversation with three 19 year-old girls describing Michael commenting about their titties when they were fifteen year old children.

                              He Questioned the character of the fifteen year old girls and told me stop playing the recordings before I could play the one where a highly offended female customer describes how she watched Michael tell two young dark-skin men they would have to pay in cash because our company does not accept welfare checks.

                              I have another recording where Michael tells three of my customers with dark-skin that they will have to pay cash because our company does not accept welfare checks.

                              Honestly, I took great pleasure in making this buttwipe of a man wriggle and squirm while placing him on the defensive. The man who takes great pleasure from stepping all over people had to sit there, place his tail between his legs, and eat my shit. <HA!>


                              I just don't get it at all that he has asked women about their underwear, talked about their breasts, and made other inappropriate sexual comments, yet they are all willing to just let it slide?
                              Apparently none were willing or motivated enough to pursue the matter outside of complaining to a company with deaf ears about Michael.

                              I'd really like to see Michael get the help he desperately needs and would luv to see the men exploiting him get their asses nailed to the wall with a jackhammer.
                              Last edited by Boozy; 05-23-2008, 01:28 PM. Reason: merged multiple posts

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