I'm not an enviromentalist, but...

[mattm04]

I work in a supermarket bakery that is one of the few Kosher ones we operate. As such we have to follow some rules the others don't. Since the Rabbi has to be "involved" in the cooking process he turns on the oven and we leave it on which makes it stay Kosher. Now at night/when it is not used he allows us to set it to 200 degrees F. This way is saves us a money and he donse't have to come in each morning.

Last week a customer saw us setting the ovens to 200, like the rabbi has allowed us to and complained. Now Corp. has decided to prevent us form "offending" our customers that we must leave the ovens at 400 degrees 24x7x365. It already costs us thousands of dollars a year more to run our shop because of the 200 degree requirement, but now they want this, which will cause them to raise prices on everyone else.

Now I drive a SUV and tend to run the A/C kind of cold but, also try to conserve by shutting off lights when not needed, both at home and work, but come on, you are costing the Company thousand of dollars a year, which will be passed on the consumers because one SC was "offended." Our GM is pissed also because they will not not give us a increase our our stores operating budget to cover the cost, which means he may have to cut hours.

Oh yeah, in the SC's letter she said she will probably not return as we violated her trust.


Where do we find such morons

[Crazeyal]

Uh..

Get a timer and have the Rabbi turn THAT on. Then you can turn it off!

This might work He'll control the oven's temp, so it actually WILL be Kosher.

[powerboy]

Don't you just love how one SC can ruin everything for everybody else.

[Bright_Star]

I always thought that there would have to be a bunch of people complaining about something before Corp stepped in & did something. BUT in this case, how did the complaint of ONE person make Corp bend over backwards? What kind of crap is that anyway?
AND she said she's not going to return? So changing it will be a BIG waste of resources all because of some bitch who complained, won't return & will be directly responsible for giving you guys less hours cause of higher operating expenses. Don't you just want to find her & toss her in that 400 degree oven?...lol.

[Sandman]

If I was the GM, I would demand that corporate allocate additional funds for the decision they made.

If they told me to deal with it, I would tell them that I would have to cut hours, which would cause more complaints.

[digilight]

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to build a wall to hide the ovens so that the Rabi can do his thing and you all can continue to turn them done as he allows.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

Don't you just want to find her & toss her in that 400 degree oven?...lol.

Oh I'd never do that....










...by myself. I'd find somebody to help me lift.

If I was the GM, I would demand that corporate allocate additional funds for the decision they made.

If they told me to deal with it, I would tell them that I would have to cut hours, which would cause more complaints.

Knowing how retail corporate offices love to cut peons' hours, I don't think that would be a very effective bargaining tactic.

[DerangedHermit]

I always thought that there would have to be a bunch of people complaining about something before Corp stepped in & did something. BUT in this case, how did the complaint of ONE person make Corp bend over backwards? What kind of crap is that anyway?

It's the Jewish Conspiracy, I tells ya! They run everything and they might even run CS! Shield your head with tinfoil!

[nomorecarts]

Oh I'd never do that....










...by myself. I'd find somebody to help me lift.

*paging*

I need a courtesy clerk to the bakery for a team lift, a courtesy clerk to the bakery for a team lift please

[mattm04]

I found out that this came form a Customer Service Sup., not the Rabbi OR the Head of the Bakery at Corp were changes to our operation are supposed to come from. Even better, depending on the items we bake we may have to set the ovens from 325 - 425, so I rally have no idea where 400 came from.

[MadMike]

Last week a customer saw us setting the ovens to 200, like the rabbi has allowed us to and complained.

On what grounds? Why should the customers care what the oven is set at?

[mattm04]

On what grounds? Why should the customers care what the oven is set at?

Something that has to do whit the oven stying Kosher, as In it can't get below certain temp, in our case 200, or the Rabbi has to come in and shut it off and turn it on.

[PepperElf]

I wasn't aware kosher bread had to be baked at a certain temperature. the main rule i know about dealing with "fires" is that you can't light them on the Sabbath - but that doesn't mean you can't start them early and let them stay on.

So technically, going down to 200 degrees isn't really turning it off...it's just lowering the fires for a little... unless turning it back up is considered to be "lighting" it again?

how did the complaint of ONE person make Corp bend over backwards?

Probably because if she complains publicly , it could result in losing the right to label the products as kosher, which would really hurt the business. From my experience, people who keep kosher are very careful about what & where they eat.

[mattm04]

I wasn't aware kosher bread had to be baked at a certain temperature. the main rule i know about dealing with "fires" is that you can't light them on the Sabbath - but that doesn't mean you can't start them early and let them stay on.

So technically, going down to 200 degrees isn't really turning it off...it's just lowering the fires for a little... unless turning it back up is considered to be "lighting" it again?


Probably because if she complains publicly , it could result in losing the right to label the products as kosher, which would really hurt the business. From my experience, people who keep kosher are very careful about what & where they eat.

The bread dosen;t have to be baled as a certain temp, most is 400 but a few are 375 or 425. According to our Rabbi, it is considered lit as long as he turns them on and the "on" switch stays on and their are nor power failures. The ovens have no pilot, just electronic ignition so no flame is burning 24/7.

Even if she complained publically it would not affect the status as we are allowed by said Rabbi to turn down the ovens.