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  • Telephone hell

    I hate making phone calls.
    If I can solve a problem using email or fax, then I am all for it, but, unfortunately, some companies don't provide me with an email address, and, unless I know exactly who to contact, faxes go astray. Sometimes, you just need to talk to a live body on the phone to solve a problem.

    A couple of months ago, we got an item in that had been damaged in shipping. It was a fairly high ticket item, and very heavy, so it was easier just to order a replacement part than it would have been to try and ship it back.
    I called and spoke with somebody and was assured that the part would be on its way once I sent a fax request.
    I did that, and I was very specific in stating that it was WARRANTY to replace shipping damage.

    The part came fairly quickly, but for some unknown reason, we were billed $32 for it.

    I called then and left a message, but got no response. December came, and it was so busy that I kind of forgot about it, but the office girls were doing their year end paperwork and came across the bill again. I was reminded to call about it again to get the credit.
    That's where the fun starts.

    I called and got a recording asking me to choose the language I wanted. I hit "2" for English. There was a silence for a few seconds, then I was again asked to choose my language. Did it again. Same thing. Silence and then the recording asking me to choose my language.

    Third time was the charm.

    Then I was met with a recording listing different departments. It was hit and miss as to which department I should be talking to. I chose Customer Service.

    I gave her my story, only to be told that I needed to speak with someone in billing. I was transferred.
    I told my story again, only to be told that I needed to speak with the person who handles the accounts for our company.
    I got voicemail, so I left a message.

    Having no response from that, I looked up the actual number and extension to dial that person direct.

    I had hoped the phone issue had been resolved, but I ended up in that choose a language loop again.

    I finally got through, and it said if I knew the extension, I was to enter it.
    I did that, and I got, "I'm sorry, I didn't hear your selection. Please try again."
    I tried that 4 times before hanging up.

    I figured I would go through their operator to get to the right place, so I bit the bullet and dialed again.
    I ended up in the choose a language loop and went through several recorded messages until I got to an operator, only to get another voicemail saying the operator was busy and to leave a message.

    I left a message, but again got no response, so I called again, went through the language loop, and got the operator. I was transferred to the rep, only to get voicemail again.
    I left a message.

    After no response, I thought, why not try an email? I looked it up in our company's files. Wouldn't you know, it bounced back.
    I checked the address and figured it was a typo. I knew there should be an 's' at the end of 'logistics', but I figured since this was a company in Quebec, it was a French variation. I added the 's' and the email went through. I explained my frustration with their phone system, and then gave her the details regarding the billing for a warranty item.

    A couple of days later, she emailed me back. She apologized for the phone issues and said she had passed on my concerns to their tech department, and that she had passed my billing issue on to another rep. That rep's phone number and extension were at the bottom of the email.

    That person didn't contact me, so I called her.

    Things started to look up because I didn't get caught in the language loop.
    I entered the extension, and got a recorded voice saying, "Transferring now."
    It was dialing through.
    My joy was short-lived, though, because I then got a recording telling me that, due to changes in their automated phone system, this rep could no longer be reached in this manner, and I needed to call a completely different phone number.

    I called that number and ended up in the damned language loop from hell yet again!!
    I finally got through, only to end up once again on voice mail.
    I left a message.

    Finally, on Friday, a completely different rep called me back and told me to fax in a credit request with all the details of the order, and he would put through a credit.

    AAARRRGGHHH!!!
    I hate the phone!!!
    I hate companies who do not follow through on phone messages, and I hate getting the freakin' run-around.
    Last edited by Ree; 01-18-2009, 04:05 PM.
    Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

  • #2
    I agree completely. I hate phones. I hate automated phone systems. I would happily pay a little more for items if it meant I got an ACTUAL PERSON when I called a company instead of a computer system that gave me the run around and took up precious cell phone minutes.

    I also have no respect for company employees that do not return phone calls. I know when I was working, I would check my voice mail once an hour for anything I missed. If I couldn't answer your question right away, I called back to TELL you I got your message (or e-mailed if I had that option) and that I was working on it and would call you back to update by *blank*. Is that really so hard? To me, it's just good customer service. Even if you don't do it every hour, do it an hour before you leave so that you can be sure to return calls. It's just common courtesy!!!

    I'm sorry you're having to deal with these kinds of companies. You have my sympathy!! *hands over banana bread*
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    • #3
      Mmmm...banana bread.

      The thing about sitting on a damn phone is that I handle a LOT of returns and have a lot of things going on in my normal workday. I have better things to do.

      My job is an ongoing and constantly changing thing, and on any given day, I could end up with 3 or 4 customers just walking in with a problem that needs a resolution, on top of what I am already dealing with.

      I have to keep the office girls happy and end up doing a lot of detective work on their behalf when someone else doesn't follow through with paperwork or with the companies to resolve the claims.

      They admit that I am the first person they will go to because they know I will find the answer, and I usually do...but it takes a lot of legwork and phone calls on my part, as well as a lot of googling and thinking outside the box. It really is detective work, pure and simple. I think I missed my calling there.

      The thing is, it's not just the office girls.

      It's common knowledge and one of the first things a new employee learns. "If you have a question or problem, see Ree."
      I am not bragging or tooting my own horn.
      It's a fact.

      I really am just that good.

      The problem is, I end up with so much going on at once that I just don't have time to play phone tag or deal with annoying voicemail and automated phones that are not functioning properly.
      Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

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      • #4
        That sucks, Ree.

        What is particularly frustrating too is the fact that you probably have spent MUCH more than the 32.00 bill by now, just in wasted time and phone calls.

        Ugh!

        Sometimes I wonder if these companies hope that people will eventually give up calling on bills under a certain amount and pay them?
        "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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        • #5
          Quoth Peppergirl View Post
          What is particularly frustrating too is the fact that you probably have spent MUCH more than the 32.00 bill by now, just in wasted time and phone calls.
          That's probably true.
          I forgot to mention, this was a long distance call each time, because the company doesn't have a toll free number.
          Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

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          • #6
            UGH! Even worse.

            I SWEAR some of these companies do it on purpose!
            "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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            • #7
              I agree that it's frustrating when company employees don't return phone calls - had that experience at Macy's when I had to call a watch company to get info for a customer regarding extra watch links. The said company's phone system wasn't that easy to naviagate, and because this customer always came in on weekends (when the company's offices were closed), I ended up leaving voicemail messages.....which were NEVER returned. (or if they were, I wasn't working that day, and co-workers didn't take down info)

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              • #8
                last time i ahd a phone runaround (calling verizon to install dsl) i think i ended up doing some baking or cooking while i waited. only to find out they couldn't service my apartment.

                at least i got some baking done tho lol

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                • #9
                  The only thing better (and by "better" I mean "worse") that the phone runaround is the automated-attendant phone runaround. Got this the other day when I experienced my very first car-towing experience (let me just say "argh!" and also ). First I called the number on the wrong sign and worked through their system to determine I'd called the wrong place. Then I got the proper number and had to "press 3 if you are an utter moron" several times before getting the information I needed - the name and number of the impound where I could retrieve my vehicle. And all of this without ONCE speaking to a live human being...incredible. I'm just glad there was no cause to leave a message, since leaving a message in an automated voice mailbox is akin to folding a tiny paper boat and placing it lovingly in the class 5 rapids: it will be thrashed about mightily and will then disappear without a trace as you watch from the shore, mouth agape at the carnage.
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                  • #10
                    I feel your pain. AT&T is my wireless carrier, and I've had to contact them a couple of times regarding various issues. One time, I couldn't remember my password for my online account, so I joined a live chat with a representative, who asked and verified my security questions, and then said she was going to reset my password and text it to me.

                    *2 minutes goes by* "Are you able to access your online account with your new password?"
                    "Err, no, I didn't get a new password...can you re-text it to me?"
                    *she re-texts it* "Are you able to access your online account with your new password?"
                    "Um, I still haven't gotten anything...hang on. Hey, SO, text me something, I wanna make sure my texts are working. ... Yeah, okay, I got that instantly..."
                    *she re-texts the password* "Are you able to access your online account with your new password?"
                    "... I think I'm just gonna call customer service."
                    "Okay, have a nice day!"

                    Sheesh, talk about unhelpful. I called CS and guess what? Turns out she was EMAILING me my new password! I opened up my email to have about half a dozen new password resets in there.

                    Anyway, at the call center I work at, there are NO AUTOMATED MESSAGES. There is no "press 1 for English and 5 for technical support and 24 for billing" etc. Customers will get a brief message telling them that their call may be monitored for quality control purposes, and after that, they'll talk directly to one of our call center agents. If there are no agents available, they'll get another brief message telling them to either visit our website or keep holding and someone will be with them shortly. There are NO options. If someone wants to talk to tech support, or customer service, they still have to talk to a standard agent first -- and a lot of times, the agents can handle most issues on their own without having to transfer. Our customers have commented multiple times about how they love talking to a real person on the first try.

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                    • #11
                      Oh $deity do I know this one well.

                      Some companies do it deliberately - used to work for one where they were too cheap to put in a toll-free for tech support, but that said, you either got a busy signal or a live agent, so it worked out that you got the support for pretty cheap.

                      Regarding the Voice Mail Hell - most of the time, it's designed by management for their convenience only. I've been in more than a few arguments with people (especially at the roadside assistance place) who have simply lost the program. I mean, if you're standing at the side of the road, your car is a smoking ruin, upside down in a ditch, when it's -30 degrees, on a cell phone with a dying battery, you are NOT going to be all that happy if the system asking for a 16-digit number and get through 5 levels of menus to talk to an agent. That's a life or death situation for real, so hire a few more agents, or go bankrupt with the lawsuits.

                      (Yes, there's a reason I don't work there any more. )

                      IMNSHO, in a lot of places, the powers that are have simply lost sight of what makes people keep coming back - and that's quick, convenient, and accurate customer service - and they use a voice mail system to hide from that reality.

                      Though unless you're a CEO, the quickest way to get to the bottom of the call-back queue is to leave a message that is simply "It's Bob. Call me back." All I can promise with that is I will call you back sometime before I retire.

                      B
                      "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."- Albert Einstein.
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                      • #12
                        One of my pet peeves. I hate voicemail. I hate automated phone systems. I much prefer email. At least I then have something in writing, and it gets done on my time, which means I'm not waiting on someone to pick up or return a call.
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                        • #13
                          Ugh I used to hate that when I worked the switchboard
                          I worked there 10 months and EACH weekly meeting with my department I begged my boss to insist IT fix our phones

                          voicemails would randomly revert back to previous people, department managers would change peoples phone extensions and IT would NOT update new people

                          I asked 3 or 4 times as was told that office support had no voicemail of its own, then IT came by one day to "fix your voicemail" ... what voicemail

                          it had over 150 messages on it from people SCREAMING into the phone that the switchboard was sending them in circles and did anyone actually work in our office. I made both IT guys stand there and listen to every single messgae, it took over an hour. Did it improve there work.... not a bit

                          they also didnt update who was in what department and on each que so as people would leave, even though they had a team of 6 only 2 people would get calls from the que

                          people would scream at me that they didnt want to listen to the 5 options and to just put them through to someone.... then bounce back to me when they got a voicemail and how they have already left 6 messages and why was there no customer service

                          sometimes I came so close to just "accidently" dropping the call just to stop them ranting in my ear AGAIN

                          I hate hate hate hate hate automated phone systems they require SO much upkeep and no one in our IT department could give a shit
                          Last edited by Kiwi; 01-21-2009, 09:36 PM.
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                          • #14
                            I got a call the other day from a completely different person than the one I left the voivemail for.
                            I had to go over the whole story AGAIN and he said, "Just fax in a credit request with all the details of the charge, with a note explaining what happened, and I will process a credit."

                            *sigh*

                            I wrote out the whole thing again and faxed it in to his attention.

                            I got my fax back on Monday with a very snippy note written on it by the girl whom I had been trying unsuccessfully to reach. It said, "I already did a credit for this amount on this account."

                            Thanks very much for letting me know, ya stupid twit!!!

                            I faxed back and asked her to send me a copy of the credit for our records, since we hadn't received it, and I have yet to hear from her.
                            Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Ree View Post
                              "I already did a credit for this amount on this account."
                              Thanks very much for letting me know, ya stupid twit!!!
                              you have to love it when

                              1. they use crappy sentence structure
                              2. they dont actually tell you they have done the work you have been breaking your neck over
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