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  • Frontend manager training school: "Here, take the keys."

    Everyone and their dog called out last night, so at 8PM ASM hands me the keys and sez: "You're running the front end from 10 on." Although I did get a bit of real training before he left, so I'm slightly more capable of the task than I was during Sandy (the last time I was left in charge of the frontend was the day nobody should have been at work; that went fairly smoothly because SM stayed as well).

    Front end and selfscan (with the idiots from Otherstore)...yeah. Figures the one night I actually have ten things to do at once nine of them need help at once. Technically, selfscan and frontend are always two different people due to the chaos. At one point I had three calls for a key (it later turned out the cashier jumped the gun on saving an order, by the time he let me know I had to recover it I was dealing with two selfscan meltdowns) and two cash machine failures at once. The key took a bit of fiddling, I knew all the codes, but the registers are extremely picky (when entering one code you actually have to turn and hold the key slightly upward because the socket is loose and the register won't recognize it otherwise).

    The only thing I screwed up was the closing announcements; couldn't do them on schedule because I was putting out other fires (and for some reason, the 2 other people standing around that could "didn't know how to page"...um, there's nothing saying only managers can use the PA, can you please do it because we all want to get out of here, I'll buy you a coffee). Night Crew Lead wound up doing it. I also forgot to run the grocery damages back (and there was dairy in there...at least I got the produce and deli where they were supposed to go).

    It turned out--after we all punched out--that there were two customers at the selfscans who had managed to hide during CW walking the aisles (if she actually DID walk the store) I stayed an extra minute or two to get them out--it would take longer to punch back in and I was down there anyway.

    I think I did reasonably well with no formal training; not having enough people to round customers up was an issue, but I did the best I could being tethered to selfscan (and only having 5 minutes prior training).
    Last edited by Dreamstalker; 12-10-2012, 02:01 PM.
    "I am quite confident that I do exist."
    "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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    It occurs to me that I could make extra money by recording closing messages for stores!

    "Attention Shoppers: OK, you little self-important, last-minute dickwads...GTFO! And hey--have a nice night!"
    When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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    • #3
      MoonCat, I would begin shopping late just to hear you and your special sign-offs!
      "Bring me knitting!" (The Doctor - not the one you were expecting)

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      • #4
        Just curious, do you get a wage bump or other incentive when you're managing front end? Or do you do it because you want training and it's flattering they trust you? Because you really should be compensated somehow. I speak as someone who used to work as a shift manager for nearly a year before officially receiving the title and the accompanying wage increase.
        A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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        • #5
          This post describes nearly every shift experienced by one of our supervisors in particular. Meanwhile, he loves when I do announcements because I am so disgustingly, passive-aggressively cheerful that it skirts the line as far as snark.
          "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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          • #6
            Quoth MoonCat View Post
            It occurs to me that I could make extra money by recording closing messages for stores!

            "Attention Shoppers: OK, you little self-important, last-minute dickwads...GTFO! And hey--have a nice night!"
            Last night, FEM actually called out the two stragglers; someone told her what they were wearing.

            I've asked many times about pre-recording closing announcements, P says we can't because 'times vary' (yeah, only for Sundays). I think it would make things a bit easier, because different managers tend to have different timeframes for making the announcements and that may be why SCs are confused)
            "I am quite confident that I do exist."
            "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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            • #7
              Quoth bainsidhe View Post
              Just curious, do you get a wage bump or other incentive when you're managing front end? Or do you do it because you want training and it's flattering they trust you?
              I'm not officially a frontend manager yet (only covered for an hour or two at a time here and there); I know I'm supposed to get a raise or similar for a management position but given how little time I've been doing it up to now I'm not sure how that would work with payroll. This might be the time to make sure I'll actually get the days off that I put in for ('hey, I put in for these days off, can I make sure I get them? I saved your butt a few times now")...mom tells me that ASM let slip he's thinking of promoting me after the first of the year.

              Waitasec...unless I'm completely wrong, shouldn't a selfscan overseer get paid more as well? ('skilled' position with manager permissions and duties)
              Last edited by Dreamstalker; 12-10-2012, 01:55 PM.
              "I am quite confident that I do exist."
              "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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              • #8
                I had a cw on another floor making closing announcements by yelling in German.
                Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                I wish porn had subtitles.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Dreamstalker View Post
                  Waitasec...unless I'm completely wrong, shouldn't a selfscan overseer get paid more as well? ('skilled' position with manager permissions and duties)
                  Ahahahahahahahaha, nope. Not in this company.

                  I was a CDH for a few months and basically was the equivalent of a third-string quarterback. It's not worth the grief, and unless you're in good with your managers, they or other CDHs will just throw you underneath the bus every chance they've got.

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                  • #10
                    Been there...a CW who I've never seen in a purple shirt (and has no business trying to manage or train* anyone) tried to make me look bad on Saturday. I was trying to save an order, she jumped in and screwed everything up by entering the wrong codes multiple times...the register locked up completely. I know ASM's login and he gave me the okay to use it until (when/if) I get my own; she kept telling me that it "wasn't the right one"..but didn't know how it 'wasn't right', just that it couldn't be right because she says it isn't (o rly? then why did I just key it in when you were berating the cashier and it worked?)

                    * If she detects even the slightest real or imagined error in what you're doing she swoops in to do it herself (which, if it involves any register keypad entry, often makes things worse owing to how fucked-up most of the keypads are to begin with).
                    "I am quite confident that I do exist."
                    "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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                    • #11
                      Do you want to be front end manager? If so, now is a good time to talk to the decision-makers and express your interest. Reminding them you're reliable and have already subbed is a good way to sing your own praises.
                      A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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                      • #12
                        the grocery store i used to work at offered an extra quarter an hour for the "privilege" of being a p/t front end manager (i always enjoyed the shifts i wasn't in charge as i still my got extra 25 cents ). The amount of training sounds about right as well, it was mostly a trial by fire and if you survived the first month you got the quarter and was stuck on the rotation of managers.

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