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  • Scotiabank suckage, oops and resolution

    The background:
    My friend and I were at the Eaton Centre when we saw the Scotiabank Wheel of Fortune. I thought, ok, I'll apply for a card and get a prize!

    I applied for the SCENE Visa card, where I get tons of points to redeem for free movies and movie food, etc. I got a free shopping bag with which I used to carry some of my stuff afterward, and thought nothing of it.

    Of note is that I'm a freelancer, but when I applied, I wrongly and foolishly estimated my income to be $2000/month, when it is really less than that.

    So I was surprised when they told me that I was accepted for the Visa card, and got my PIN. However, and this is important, I did not read all of the requirements nor did I read what I needed to bring in.
    End background

    The suckage:
    When they called me to pick up my card, my mother and I drove 30 minutes to the branch that held it. Unfortunately, the woman who had my file was NOT WORKING on that day. My mother became impatient at this. After all, we drove 30 minutes for nothing!

    We finally agreed to have the card sent to a branch closer to us. Unfortunately, when they called AGAIN, the card was sent to a DIFFERENT BRANCH!

    So to recap, the card was at one branch, we agreed to have it sent to another branch, but it was instead sent to a THIRD BRANCH! My mother was livid at this!
    End suckage

    The oops
    When we came to the third branch, my mother had just about had it with all of this brouhaha. She wanted to know why this was taking so long, why I wanted a luxury card like SCENE, etc. All I could do was keep quiet and be as polite as possible to the poor manager who had to explain the process.

    Then came the question for proof of identity. All I had was my health card, but they aren't allowed to take it. He wanted a bill with my address and a letter from my employer about my income. This is where the foolish report of $2000/month comes in.

    Since I earned less, I would not be eligible for the offer that they had on the table for my SCENE Visa card. And it's not just proof of identity that they needed, but proof of income, which I definitely do not have. So we finally agreed to cancel the account.
    End oops

    More suckage
    But that's not all! Just a couple of days ago, we got our first bill!

    The heck??!?!

    How could we get a bill when the account was cancelled? So my mother got on the phone and asked what happened!

    So we finally got confirmation that the account was cancelled, and my mother was happy.
    End more suckage

    The resolution
    The day when we got the account cancelled, my mother treated me to some Popeye's chicken to comfort me and I answered surveys to get more of the chicken for free!

    Now, she's going to apply for a SCENE Visa card, with me as a secondary cardholder. The appointment is tomorrow, so please wish her luck!
    End resolution
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  • #2
    Wait...is this a credit card? Please don't get into the snake pit of credit cards. No matter what you do you can get bitten.

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    • #3
      Quoth Aethian View Post
      Wait...is this a credit card? Please don't get into the snake pit of credit cards. No matter what you do you can get bitten.
      Yes, it's a credit card. Don't worry, I always pay in full, and always choose the ones with no annual fee.
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      • #4
        Now I really am worried. Please please re consider getting a credit card. They are NOT needed to survive and enjoy life.

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        • #5
          Quoth patiokitty View Post
          While I am not a fan of credit cards I can see why some people want them. I will never have another one again for a variety of reasons, but I do have a card I can use online like a credit card (it can only be used online and nowhere else) that connects directly to my chequing account and I can see the money withdrawn right away instead of spending money I don't have yet. But that is a personal preference.
          That's right. I only use one card. Once I have a new card, I stop using the old one and let it expire.

          As a matter of fact, I think I will spend my rewards points on my current card now.

          No, scratch that. I have almost enough for a $50 gift card, so I will wait until I get enough.

          Quoth Aethian
          Now I really am worried. Please please re consider getting a credit card. They are NOT needed to survive and enjoy life.
          Aethian, please, DO NOT WORRY about me. I'm a saver, not a spender who spends $10,000/month; I don't need credit cards to survive, and my balance is always less than $100.00 (which I ALWAYS pay in full). I NEVER shop online unless I'm using reward points, and the one time my sister spent $20 online for me, I paid her back in cold hard cash (don't worry about her either, she knows what she's doing).

          However, since I go out with my friends to see movies, I don't see why I can't have a credit card that earns me points towards free movies and free movie stuff. I and my family live with my sister, so we can afford the little indulgences. Even if I was living alone, I know to watch my money, so please DON'T WORRY!
          Last edited by cindybubbles; 04-17-2013, 07:30 PM.
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          • #6
            Quoth Aethian View Post
            Now I really am worried. Please please re consider getting a credit card. They are NOT needed to survive and enjoy life.
            Neither are movies, pizza, or alcohol.

            Credit cards are only a problem if the holder makes it so. People who can't or don't control their spending, or lose their income so would go into debt anyway [or become homeless, which is a no-win scenario].

            Frankly, if you can't handle a short-term loan, that's your business. Other people can.

            And even if they can't, that's their business.
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            • #7
              Anyone else had any bad experiences when trying to apply for a credit card?
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              • #8
                Quoth Aethian View Post
                Wait...is this a credit card? Please don't get into the snake pit of credit cards. No matter what you do you can get bitten.
                A credit card is what you make of it. By having the credit cards and paying them off responsibly I had a decent credit history. This counted in my favour when I applied for my first mortgage.

                I don't know what it's like in the US, but in the UK if you have no credit history, you either won't get a loan/mortgage or you get one at an awful rate of interest.

                I have 2 credit cards; my 1st I use on a day-to-day basis and has an interest-free period of 42 days on purchases. I never spend more than £200 a month on it despite the credit limit. I also get points towards the clothes & home-ware shop where I do most of my shopping. This has saved me about £200 over the last 3 years, which on a limited income is rather valuable for "luxuries" like reasonable-quality new work clothes and replacement linens when the old ones wore out.

                My 2nd card is my "in case of emergency" card; it has 0% interest on balance transfers for a year, so on the odd occasion when I've had to spend £300+ in an emergency (catastrophic car failure, etc.) I paid on my 1st card, then transferred the balance to my 2nd card to be paid off before the interest-free period ended. Other than a nominal transfer fee, it's like an interest-free loan, and has saved my bacon twice in the last 3 years.

                As with anything in life, to make a credit card work you need to apply self-discipline and common sense. As we have seen frequently on this site, many of the general population lack those things, which led to the current economic crisis.
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                • #9
                  Quoth greek_jester View Post
                  I don't know what it's like in the US, but in the UK if you have no credit history, you either won't get a loan/mortgage or you get one at an awful rate of interest.
                  Same. First time I tried to get a cell phone, they wanted me to pay $400 security deposit, since I had no credit history.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth cindybubbles View Post
                    Anyone else had any bad experiences when trying to apply for a credit card?
                    First card I ever applied for I was turned down. The reason: Apparently I already had a card with them. Or rather my dad who has the same first and last name as me did. Apparently they didn't bother looking at the VERY different date of birth or SSN. Just the name. (we even have different middle initials)


                    Let that be a lesson to you future parents. Naming them after you might seem cute but it only causes trouble in the future.

                    Whenever I go to do anything medical I am sure to verify my date of birth so they don't bring up my dad's medical records by mistake (it's happened once).

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                    • #11
                      Quoth cindybubbles View Post
                      Anyone else had any bad experiences when trying to apply for a credit card?
                      Not a bad one but it ended up being funny in the end.

                      I applied online for a credit card as I fit the requirements for a small credit card and I needed to start a credit history (technically the bank informed me I was eligible for a credit card based on my history with them). This was quite a few years ago and I was going to use it my way as a pre paid credit card which ironically was harder for me to get at that time($400 to start one then you have to prepay on top of it ouch). I was approved and transferred $10 into the credit account and a few weeks later got a call to pick it up at a certain branch, which is an hours' drive away. I don't drive so I arrange a ride with a friend and bring what I was told I needed, 100 points of ID and a current address. Rock up and ask the teller for my card and she said 'you need proof of income' err what? I did that online, the bank has already checked. I ask can I fax it or do a certified copy and she said no. I told her how difficult it was to get here and I said can you use my account with them as proof (been with them for 10 years) and she said no so I said forget it, never mind and cancel the card and go off home. What a wasted trip and fuel.

                      Remember that $10 that I had transferred? well it kept the account open (obviously she didn't cancel it and it didn't bother me I found it amusing and I kept an eye on the account) until the new card chip technology became standard card wide for this bank and I got my credit card in the mail when they did the update for all their customers about 10 months later. I busted up laughing. How ridiculous.

                      This card is treated as both an emergency and a prepaid. Basically if I don't have the money I don't use it so I preload it a few times a year because my gaming and ecigs come directly off it and I've never paid interest. I just needed something that can prove a good credit history. I don't pay yearly fees so I do have a higher interest rate but as long as I use it as I preload the card I don't pay the bank anything.

                      Mind you, good credit and income history can be useless. A friend went to apply for a home loan and was turned down by nearly every major bank here. It took him nearly 6 months to find a lender for 150k. He has impeccable credit history and is well paid and his friend who was neither and had no down payment got a fairy large home loan (350k) almost on the spot. I don't get it, good credit friend he had a huge down payment, maybe that was it. If that's true then no wonder banks get into trouble.
                      Last edited by Zaiida; 04-20-2013, 08:25 AM.

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                      • #12
                        don't know how true it is, but I once heard a rumor that (some) banks actually turn down people with credit scores above a certain level because they won't make as much(or any) off of interest because it'll be paid back too quickly.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Sulhythal View Post
                          don't know how true it is, but I once heard a rumor that (some) banks actually turn down people with credit scores above a certain level because they won't make as much(or any) off of interest because it'll be paid back too quickly.
                          Yup, "deadbeats," the credit card companies call them. They're in the business to make money, and they can't make money off the interest if you're paying off your balance in full every month.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth Aethian View Post
                            Now I really am worried. Please please re consider getting a credit card. They are NOT needed to survive and enjoy life.
                            LOL! I have three credit cards...am I doomed? Seriously though I learned quite some time ago that paying for everything up front in cash is a very bad idea. I couldn't even get overdraft protection for my checking account because I had ZERO credit history. I immediately went out and got a secured credit card. Less than ten years later I had a credit score in the 800's and qualified for a 0% interest loan on my first new car.

                            Aethian, if you ever want to own your own home some day you should really start building up your credit score. You will never be able to get a mortgage if you have no credit history and unless you are rich or hit the lottery big time you are never going to get a house without a mortgage.

                            Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                            Yup, "deadbeats," the credit card companies call them. They're in the business to make money, and they can't make money off the interest if you're paying off your balance in full every month.
                            I tried to convince my wife of this but she insists on paying her card off in full every month.

                            Me? Every once in a while I throw them a bone. Not a big bone but enough so they voluntarily reduced my APR to 5.99% HOPING I might throw them a real big bone one of these days.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth Caractacus_Potts View Post
                              Aethian, if you ever want to own your own home some day you should really start building up your credit score. You will never be able to get a mortgage if you have no credit history and unless you are rich or hit the lottery big time you are never going to get a house without a mortgage.
                              My car is paid off, I have no credit card debt, no student loan payments, and am getting a manual underwriting on my home purchase at 3.85% for a 15 year fixed mortgage. That with the size of the payments i should be able to pay off in 7 years. Why do I need a credit score?

                              The only thing a credit score proves is that a consumer loves to pay money in terms of interest to a bank/credit union in the forms of loans. I'm counting a credit card as a loan.

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