Children =/= Dogs

[Skrae]

So, my girlfriend and I are out and about and stop for lunch at L&L Hawaiian Barbecue for what we have started calling the Big Kahuna Burger (Teriyaki Cheeseburger).

It's busier than we've ever seen it so we go outside to have a smoke while we wait on our food. While we're sitting out there on the stairs out front, a "lady" pulls up, gets out of the car, gets her kids out of the car, a boy and a girl, and sits on the ledge with her daughter, we don't think anything of it until the boy appears in our peripheral with no pants on.

At this point, my girlfriend says, "Why does that child have no pants?" Just then he grabs his wee and starts peeing on the sidewalk. And yes, his mother was watching during this, so she obviously had no problem with it.

After seeing this, my girlfriend and I get up and move closer to the storefront and the mother looks at us and says, "He's just a little kid."

My girlfriend and I just staring at each other dumbfound, looking between each other and the mother, who started to get up and turned to us, snottily saying the phrase, "Don't you have a dog? It's no differenter." (No, that's not a typo, by the way, she actually said the word "differenter.")

After saying this, she takes her two kids and walks into the Fatburger next door.

First off, my parents would never let me piss on the sidewalk as a kid. If it was an emergency, a tree or bush was found.

Second, it goes against polite society to urinate in public, child or no. If you let your kid urinate on the sidewalk, you don't get to be the offended one.

Third, you couldn't tell your kid to wait the 15 extra seconds to walk into the restaurant you let him cut loose out front of.

Epilogue: I did think of a comeback after we got back inside (L'esprit D'escalier): "My dog goes in the corner, and if it's no 'differenter,' why don't you have him on a leash?"

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

Adults have to pee just like children do. So it's no "differenter" if some dude drops trou, whips out his member and lets fly. Srsly. No need to call the police about sexual assault or anything.

Once again, we see that just because you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

[Pixilated]

Going to be interesting to see what excuses she uses when he's still doing that at 15 ... and witnesses start calling the cops on him.

[fma_fanatic]

I once babysat for two children when I was in high school whose parents had no problem letting them drop trou and urinate in public. The mother said that they did it all the time where she grew up (both parents were from the UK).

I honestly don't know, but after trying to teach the 4 year old girl it wasn't proper to lift her dress and drop her panties to pee on the sidewalk, I gave up. It wasn't long after the same 4year old broke my nose with a toy cash register that I quit.

[Mr Hero]

Funny that I have a guess exactly where you were. I usually get my games from that Game Stop in that shopping center.

[AnaKhouri]

To a certain point, kids ARE like dogs...border collies are are intelligent as a 2-year-old child.

But once they start potty training, it's time to treat them like humans. My son has peed outside exactly once- at his grandparents' (rural) house because he was so into stacking firewood that he didn't recognize he had to pee until it was too late.

If it's that urgent, put training pants on the kid so if he can't make it to the potty, he can go in his pants with no problem. Peeing on the sidewalk is disgusting. If everyone made their children act like civilized people instead of barbarians from the beginning, this wouldn't be a problem. "They're kids, they don't understand' is not an excuse to me. Kids understand a lot more than adults think they do and are capable of much more than most people ask of them. It's doing them a disservice to treat them like babies long past the age they are babies.

[FenigDurak]

Why was the kid allowed in the restaurant without pants? From the sound of it "no pants" also meant "no diaper" so why weren't they kicked out? I'd have called the police or at least complained to the manager. That is foul.

[MoonCat]

Urine is urine. I don't care if it comes from a little kid or a grown-ass adult, it's still a BIOHAZARD. Yuck.

True story: Friends of ours were vacationing in another country (not exactly Third World but close). They were in some old historic town at some tourist site and she had to pee. She asked a local where the restrooms were. He said something and gestured to another area nearby and she didn't understand (thinking her grasp of the language wasn't so great). So he demonstrated: Walked off a little way to a nearby wall and used a convenient corner. THAT was, apparently, the only "restroom" the site offered. Can't remember if she used it or not!

[sstabeler]

I once babysat for two children when I was in high school whose parents had no problem letting them drop trou and urinate in public. The mother said that they did it all the time where she grew up (both parents were from the UK).

um, not in any part of the UK that I know of... I can see how thye might ahve thoguht it acceptable though ( In the UK, as a general rule, most people won't challenge someone else's behaviour, assuming you are talking about bystanders. Therefore, ther woman may be confusing nobody telling her it's foul with people thinking it's fine)

and yeah- it's a) disgusting to see- it'd put me right off my food (and probably rushing to the nearest toilet to throw up) and b) just plain unacceptable- exposing your privates in public is generalyl considered unacceptable.

[raudf]

The only time my boys are allowed to "pee outside," is off our porch during a power outage. We're very rural, so it's just wildlife and my sister's family who will likely be doing the same thing. (Well water + no power = no running water.) Just gotta watch for the "leaves of three," bit.

And that's a whole order of "differenter" than being in a public place. Except accidents while potty training (or being jolted by a live wire) there is no reason to pee out in the open in a public place! All she's doing is teaching him that there is no such thing as a bad time or place. Just wait until he pees on the lawn or sidewalk of the county court house, right in front of a cop. That'll put a stop to it.

[Food Lady]

All I have to say is the thread tags are making me giggle.

[shopgirl15]

Well it could have been worse. Remember this great human specimen who put her nude kids in potty chairs in the middle of a restaurant?

Mom Potty Trains Her Children In The Middle Of A Utah Restaurant

It happened at the Thanksgiving Point Deli in Utah. The mom in question brought her family's potty to the restaurant, placed it on a chair and let each of her two children sit on it. While eating. At a table. In the middle of the dining room.

"She had to undo the jumpsuits, and take them all the way down so they were completely nude, with the jumpsuits down to their ankles just eating their chicken nuggets, sitting on little toddler potties," Decker told KSLTV. Many patrons, herself included, were horrified, she added. "The more you thought about it, the more unappetizing everything looked around me." she added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1858510.html

[Soulstealer]

um, not in any part of the UK that I know of... I can see how they might have thought it acceptable though ( In the UK, as a general rule, most people won't challenge someone else's behaviour, assuming you are talking about bystanders. Therefore, the woman may be confusing nobody telling her it's foul with people thinking it's fine)

and yeah- it's a) disgusting to see- it'd put me right off my food (and probably rushing to the nearest toilet to throw up) and b) just plain unacceptable- exposing your privates in public is generally considered unacceptable.

Agreed, there are public indecency laws against that sort of thing. I don't think I've ever seen someone pee in public like that who wasn't very drunk.

[Zellie Crescent]

I once babysat for two children when I was in high school whose parents had no problem letting them drop trou and urinate in public. The mother said that they did it all the time where she grew up (both parents were from the UK).

Before they met me Bill and IV knew a girl from a trailer park who would just (if she was outside) pull her pants down and just go, it didn't matter who was watching or if she was in the middle of a conversation she would just do it. My mother grew up in a trailer park and I know and am friends with people who grew up in trailer parks and they NEVER acted like animals.

[Skrae]

Why was the kid allowed in the restaurant without pants? From the sound of it "no pants" also meant "no diaper" so why weren't they kicked out? I'd have called the police or at least complained to the manager. That is foul.

Sorry, I didn't mention that he did have pants that he stripped off to go wee, and put them back on.

Funny that I have a guess exactly where you were. I usually get my games from that Game Stop in that shopping center.

Yep, you guessed right, though the Barnes and Noble is more my usual stop in that area.