Even a child knows you're an idiot

[fireheart]

When asked why these people would choose to buy a house right next to a theme park (only a two lane road separated the park from the housing estate) the people said that they thought it would be a good place to dump the kids at weekends.

Given that entrance for the park nowadays is what, $99 for one year, that's pretty expensive babysitting. (That's per park btw)

[Teskeria]

Given that entrance for the park nowadays is what, $99 for one year, that's pretty cheapbabysitting. (That's per park btw)

fixed it.

If they only did 12 days a year (and apparently they were planning to do a lot more) that would be $8.25 a DAY! a lot less than a babysitter

[laborcat]

While my wife and I live near an Air Force Reserve base.. and still hear the planes at night (the stop training flights after 10pm.. so anything we hear is mission oriented), we love hearing the planes because of what it means.

I live near Wright-Patt and I don't even notice the sound of the planes anymore. Granted, I don't think there are as many now as there was when I first moved in, but same as you, what it means is more than what it is.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

That exact thing happened to Lambert St. Louis Airport back in the 1960's and 70's. The airport was kinda out in the "outskirts" of the county. Jet iarcraft were just beginning to be introduced into the airline fleets. There were a few small communitites. The airport expanded BUT so did the surrounding communities -- by leaps and bounds. people KNEW where the airport was BUT still bought houses around the airport. and YET they still bitched and complained about the noice levels.

EVEN WITH the so called "noise abatment" takeoff procedures there is STILL a LOT of noise.

I remember a time where you could walk out onto the roof above the terminal gates and watch the planes. That ended when there were enough jet aircraft running around to be a safety hazard for the persons standing on the ovbservation roof.

Mitchell Field in Milwaukee has to have the same problems. It's almost completely surrounded by residential neighborhoods.

[Racket_Man]

Mitchell Field in Milwaukee has to have the same problems. It's almost completely surrounded by residential neighborhoods.

Now if you really wanna talk about surrounded by the city, try and fly into/out of Midway Airport in Chicago. Interesting looking out the window on in AND outbound flights.

[sms001]

surrounded by the city, try and fly into/out of Midway

Literally dozens of times. As I was "courting" my wife, I flew Lambert to Midway every month or so for over a year. As I became more familiar w/ the area, it was fun to tick off the landmarks on the landing approach - Janson's neon sign, Little Company of Mary, St. Mary's cemetery, Daley college (where I'd later work) and.....touch down. There ain't much breathin' room around that airport, that's for sure.

[Racket_Man]

Literally dozens of times. As I was "courting" my wife, I flew Lambert to Midway every month or so for over a year. As I became more familiar w/ the area, it was fun to tick off the landmarks on the landing approach - Janson's neon sign, Little Company of Mary, St. Mary's cemetery, Daley college (where I'd later work) and.....touch down. There ain't much breathin' room around that airport, that's for sure.

I flew in and out a couple of times myself when I was living in Chicago.

Breathing room????? more like a very very short intake of breath

But then taking off and landing at O'Hare is just as amusing. O'Hare may be bigger but it is still literally surrounded by houses (I lived just off the landing path for 12 years a low thick cloud base was always interesting heavy furniture moved ) , businesses, highways, railyards, SCHOOLS (the airport had to pay big time to soundproof my daughters middle school as it was directly under the landing path planes were maybe 200 feet off the ground at that point)

[FredKlein]

There are actually a few legitimate issues that people living near airports might have:

1) The airport was small (4 flights a day), and has grown massively (400 flights a day)
2) The planes being used are different (ie: a 747 is noisier than a smaller plane)
3) They, while knowing the airport was close, didn't realize how close it was (perhaps they viewed the house on a day when the wind had shifted and a different runway was in use, so they didn't see any planes overhead then).

The same sort of thing applies for concert venues- if you bought a house when they had 1 concert a month, and they have them every other day now, you might have a legit complaint.

But otherwise, they're just whining.

[MadMike]

I live near Wright-Patt and I don't even notice the sound of the planes anymore.

I spent a couple summers at my grandparents' when I was a teenager, and they lived two doors over from a small airport. After awhile, I didn't notice the planes either.

The same sort of thing applies for concert venues- if you bought a house when they had 1 concert a month, and they have them every other day now, you might have a legit complaint.

But otherwise, they're just whining.

Something like that happened in Hershey a couple of decades ago, and a concert I had tickets to got cancelled because the residents complained about it. I don't know if people ever complained about the noise from Hershey Park, but they did bitch about them having concerts there. And can't say for sure, but that park and its arena have been around practically forever, so the park was probably there before they moved in.

I was pretty pissed off when I found out about it, but I guess it could have been worse. At least I found out before I went over there. I had tickets to another concert in Allentown, which is about two hours away, and I didn't find out until after I got there.

[wolfie]

3) They, while knowing the airport was close, didn't realize how close it was (perhaps they viewed the house on a day when the wind had shifted and a different runway was in use, so they didn't see any planes overhead then).

Or perhaps the real estate agent only took people to view the house on days when the wind wasn't coming from the usual direction.

Still, there's an amazing piece of technology called a MAP. If you know there's an airport in the city, a MAP can tell you how close it is to any given location. Using an even more advanced technology combination (TELEPHONE and PHONE BOOK), along with information obtained from the MAP, contact the airport's general information line, explain that you're looking at a house roughly $distance from the airport in $direction, and ask what proportion of the time planes will be taking off or landing over the house. Of course, this implies that the purchaser possesses an exceedingly rare artifact known as a BRAIN.

[AccountingDrone]

I spent a few years living under the flightline for NOB Norfolk VA. I have a certain fondness for the rumble of airplanes taking off and landing. Of course some of the 5 Am heavy cargo flights can be startling if you are not used to them

[Ironclad Alibi]

I have some friends that live about 4 miles from an arena. I don't think the noise bothers them due to intervening mountains. However, if the wind is right (wrong?) they said for some concerts they can smell the pot.

[Lovecats]

Many, many moons ago I was in the Air Force (I was a WAF when they still had them) and was stationed at Travis AFB in California. There would be C5s flying over the barracks all the time. They were really loud especially at night but after awhile you just didn't really hear them anymore.

[dalesys]

... possesses an exceedingly rare artifact known as a BRAIN.

My BRAIN is more of a fartenact...

[MadMike]

Still, there's an amazing piece of technology called a MAP. If you know there's an airport in the city, a MAP can tell you how close it is to any given location.

Better yet, you can use an internet map site, such as MapQuest. That's what I did when I was looking for a house. I saw some houses that seemed nice, and the price was great... maybe a little too great, in fact. So I brought up the address on MapQuest, and still didn't see anything suspicious. Then I zoomed out, and saw that I-81 was practically in those houses' back yards.

Needless to say, I passed on those.