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  • When no means yes and yes means no

    Further proof for the "SC's lack awareness" file.

    The convenience store I frequent a lot on shift has just undergone a major remodeling. Got the following stories either from personal observation or the clerk sharing in the misery with me.

    The gas tanks had reached their mandated replacement age, so for about three weeks, the forecourt was dug up, plastered in caution tape, plastic orange fencing, and blocked by earth moving machinery.

    Yes, customers still tried to drive around all the obstructions to get gas.

    Even after the new pumps (with diesel now included, yay! ) were installed, they still had to wait until the end of the week for the fuel truck to come and top off the tanks.

    Yes, customers still tried to get gas from the dry pumps, even though the pumps were wrapped in tape, the dispensers were bagged and "no gas yet" notes were plastered everywhere....

    Then, in phase II of the remodel, the owners decided to finally replace the weatherbeaten awning out front, that was once yellow, but now was pale cream in color, and had big gashes in it where it had been torn.

    No sooner did the sign company take it down and haul it away for scrapping, than panicked customers began coming in and asking if the store was closing.......



    There you have it, as far as SCs are concerned Signs that say "don't" mean do! And signs that say "Do" mean DON'T!!!


    You

    Just

    Can't

    Win
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  • #2
    Slightly off topic , but in some languages (Baltic/Eastern European) "Ne" means no, but in Greek it means yes...

    So, techically, somewhere in the world, no does actually mean yes.

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    • #3
      IIRC, Yes can mean No in Japanese... It works something like this:

      A: "It's probably not going to rain today, is it?"

      In English, the expected response is "No, probably not" -- In Japanese, one might expect "Yes, it probably won't rain today" (implying agreement with the original sentiment/"Yes, you are correct")
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      • #4
        Well, now I'm even MORE confused.

        Time to start drinking
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        • #5
          Just to confuse the issue further, let's not forget that early English had two words for "yes" and two for "no". "Yea" and "nay" answered positively phrased questions, "yes" and "no" answered negatively phrased questions:
          • Will he go? -- Yea he will/Nay he will not.
          • Won't he go? -- Yes he will/No he will not.
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          • #6
            Don't get me started on Welsh. We had an entire lesson dedicated to ways to say yes and no.

            It depends entirely on context. A flat yes (ie) or no (na) is only one option.

            Are there any apples? Oes (yes there are) / Nag Oes (no there are not)

            Is it sunny? Ydy (yes it is) / Nag Ydy (no it is not)

            Are you going? Ydw (yes I am) Nag Ydw (no I am not)

            And this isn't even all of them!

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            • #7
              Quoth Argabarga View Post
              Well, now I'm even MORE confused.
              Time to start drinking
              I'm not confused at all.


              Time to start drinking.


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              • #8
                Quoth Argabarga View Post
                ...You

                Just

                Can't

                Win
                First Law!

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                • #9
                  Quoth prjkt View Post
                  Slightly off topic , but in some languages (Baltic/Eastern European) "Ne" means no, but in Greek it means yes...
                  And if you're in a country with a Latin-derived language, be VERY careful with the water taps. The one marked "C" is actually hot water (chaud/calda/caliente).
                  Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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                  • #10
                    Haha whoops looks like I caused this thread to get well and truly derailed

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                    • #11
                      Also be very careful on Opposite Day.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Golden Phoenix View Post
                        Don't get me started on Welsh. We had an entire lesson dedicated to ways to say yes and no.

                        It depends entirely on context. A flat yes (ie) or no (na) is only one option.

                        Are there any apples? Oes (yes there are) / Nag Oes (no there are not)

                        Is it sunny? Ydy (yes it is) / Nag Ydy (no it is not)

                        Are you going? Ydw (yes I am) Nag Ydw (no I am not)

                        And this isn't even all of them!
                        Uhm, how do you pronounce a word that is all consonants?
                        Last edited by Cia; 05-28-2014, 06:24 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Golden Phoenix View Post
                          Is it sunny? Ydy (yes it is) / Nag Ydy (no it is not)

                          Are you going? Ydw (yes I am) Nag Ydw (no I am not)
                          Quoth Cia View Post
                          Uhm, how do you pronounce a word that is all consonants?
                          Have a look at Wikipedia's page on Welsh orthography, especially the section "Letter names and sound values". According to that page -- and I hope GP or other Welsh speakers will correct me -- "ydy" would sound something like "ih-dee", and "ydw" would sound like "ih-doo".

                          American schoolchildren are taught "vowels are A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y." My mother was taught "vowels are A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y and W." (But I can't think of anything in English that uses W as a vowel. Not including certain album titles. )
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                          • #14
                            American schoolchildren are taught "vowels are A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y." My mother was taught "vowels are A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y and W." (But I can't think of anything in English that uses W as a vowel. Not including certain album titles. )
                            In Old/Middle English, prior to the Great Vowel Shift, a W was exactly that - a double U.
                            Last edited by EricKei; 05-28-2014, 01:16 PM. Reason: fixed quote tag

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Cia View Post
                              Uhm, how do you pronounce a word that is all consonants?
                              Carefully

                              Quoth Deserted View Post
                              Have a look at Wikipedia's page on Welsh orthography, especially the section "Letter names and sound values". According to that page -- and I hope GP or other Welsh speakers will correct me -- "ydy" would sound something like "ih-dee", and "ydw" would sound like "ih-doo".
                              Very close, the Y makes more of an Uh sound than Ih (like in Uh-oh!)

                              So Ydy = Uh-dee and Ydw = Uh-Doo

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