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  • For someone conflict-adverse, I sure do this a lot

    Take on jerks that is. So far, I've

    1. gotten into a shouting match with a guy taking up the loading area of handicapped parking,
    2. pepper sprayed a Trailer Park Queen who was beating the shit out of a smaller woman
    3. Yelled at some old skinbag who was bullying a special-needs clerk

    Today I put another notch in my belt. I went to Whole Paycheck (it's right by work, don't judge me!) to get some delicious hot soup (mmm fish special). I was being rung out while the jerkwad (hereafter JW) before me was going off (not yelling, but using that self-important-I'm-a-prick tone) to the cashier, saying "you weren't involved in this, why did you get involved, blah blah blah."

    From what I was able to gather from context, he'd apparently chewed out the regular cashier to the point that she was crying (probably some poor high school or college kid) and the cashier's supervisor jumped in to handle the transaction. JW didn't like being denied the opportunity to continue being a bully, and turned his self-righteous frustration on the supervisor.

    Said supervisor told JW (albeit very politely) that he had already been helped and he needed to take his purchases and have a nice day (corporate speak for "get the hell out"). He continued with his tirade about how he hadn't done anything wrong, blah blah blah. Before I really had time to think too much, I found myself saying "she's asked you to leave, are you going to walk away or am I going to call the cops?" He kept going, this time telling me I needed to get out in the world and meet more people, how residents of <my city> get upset over nothing, blah blah blah.

    Now, I work at a hotel. I serve people from all over the globe every day, from every imaginable background, and there's no culture that condones bullying service workers until they cry. However, I knew enough not to argue with JW (not going down to his level) so I simply aid "you've been asked to leave, you're legally trespassing and I'm calling" and put my phone to my head. JW left, still telling me we're all too easily offended, the supervisor should mind her own business, blah blah blah. I don't care. I got rid of him. Plus, three people in this scenario thought he was the jerk. Me, the cashier he made cry, and the cashier's supervisor. He was out-voted.

    So apparently, even though I was shaky and had an upset stomach (I couldn't eat my soup right away for reheating lobster bisque), I am only scared into silence when it's myself I'm defending. Mess with a fellow retail sufferer (or one of my guests...that's a story for another time) and IT IS ON.
    Last edited by WishfulSpirit; 04-16-2016, 02:11 AM.
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    good for you!!!

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    • #3
      Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
      I am only scared into silence when it's myself I'm defending. Mess with a fellow retail sufferer (or one of my guests...that's a story for another time) and IT IS ON.
      That's not unusual. Many a gentle person who wouldn't defend themselves will go Rambo on someone for attacking their children, other family members, or anyone they perceive as being in trouble.

      And yes, the guy was a bullying jerkass, and he knew it. The more he vehemently defended his actions, the more he proved it.
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      • #4
        As retail staff, it's much harder for us to stand up for ourselves due to the risk of discipline or worse, whereas standing up for others is just The Right Thing To Do.
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        • #5
          Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post

          JW left, still telling me we're all too easily offended, the supervisor should mind her own business, blah blah blah. I don't care.
          *record needle scratch*

          WHAT? The well-being of her subordinates ARE her business! The guy was a big jerk indeed!

          Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
          So apparently, even though I was shaky and had an upset stomach (I couldn't eat my soup right away for reheating lobster bisque)
          Was it World Famous Lobster Bisque?
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          • #6
            Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
            Take on jerks that is. So far, I've

            3. Yelled at some old skinbag who was bullying a special-needs clerk

            Did you post about this? I don't remember seeing it.

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            • #7
              I don't think I posted about that one. Happened quite a while ago, before I found CS.com. I have apparently refined my technique. There was a lot more name-calling back then (by me...not something I'm proud of).
              "I try to be curious about everything, even things that don't interest me." -Alex Trebek

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              • #8
                I've found that I've been doing that a lot more frequently as well when I see stuff like that happen. My opening line will typically be, "Are you serious right now?! You <insert very basic description of how they're being a complete jerk>? Really?!"

                I find the vast majority of the time someone standing up to them is enough to get them to back off and slink away.
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                • #9
                  Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
                  He kept going, this time telling me I needed to get out in the world and meet more people, how residents of <my city> get upset over nothing, blah blah blah.
                  So then leave said city. Nobody is forcing you to stay, you asshat, and you'd be doing everyone a favor.
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                  • #10
                    I'm pretty cowardly, except when I'm angry, and nothing makes me more angry than bullying. maybe it's because I was bullied as a child, were you? Just curious. Psychology is interesting.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
                      I don't think I posted about that one. Happened quite a while ago, before I found CS.com. I have apparently refined my technique. There was a lot more name-calling back then (by me...not something I'm proud of).

                      Go on... let's hear some dirt!

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                      • #12
                        Hehe. Yeah in answer to an earlier question, both Hubby and I were bullied, so we don't stand for that crap when we see it. As far as telling off the skinbag who was having a go at a special-needs cart-pusher, I wasn't super effective, and I used words I'm not proud of, so I'd rather not tell that story.
                        "I try to be curious about everything, even things that don't interest me." -Alex Trebek

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                        • #13
                          Quoth AmbrosiaWriter View Post
                          I've found that I've been doing that a lot more frequently as well when I see stuff like that happen. My opening line will typically be, "Are you serious right now?! You <insert very basic description of how they're being a complete jerk>? Really?!"
                          I tried that last fall. It didn't work. Some people are really sure that they are right when they aren't, and you can't convince them otherwise.
                          "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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                          • #14
                            If you want I can tell the story of the day I yelled at a delivery driver at work and got a commendation for it.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth WishfulSpirit View Post
                              If you want I can tell the story of the day I yelled at a delivery driver at work and got a commendation for it.
                              Yes please More stories are always good.
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