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  • Oi! You don't have right-of-way!

    Baby and I had to run out to do shopping errands today (picking up more bread and milk, since we were almost out, and trying to find some craft supplies to finish some fans I'm painting for a friend).

    Twice on the way home, I saw pedestrians cross the street against traffic, without really paying attention to the lights.

    The first was a set of three high school kids, who were apparently joking and laughing together so much they weren't paying attention to the traffic signals. Like most intersections in this city, the pedestrian crossing signals get their own place in the light queue, such that all vehicles have a red light so the pedestrians can cross any direction they please. These three kids were just meandering down the sidewalk, stopping here and there as they pleased, while the pedestrian signal was lit. Then, just as it stops blinking and the cross street gets its green light, the kids step out into the crosswalk. And then stop when they realize the cross street has a green light, meaning they're standing in front of cars that have the right of way. Apparently the car in the lead motioned for them to go ahead, because they (to their credit) crossed as quickly as they could manage.

    Four blocks later, I'm waiting at the red light while the cross street has a green. An older man approached in line with the cross street, but was too far away when the light turned yellow. He glanced up just as it turned red, then stepped out to cross the now-green street (mine) anyway. Then, like the teens, he stopped in the middle of the lane when he realized he shouldn't be in the street, smiled sheepishly at the car waiting to go, and jogged across.

    To top off the sundae, I pulled onto the street before mine and moved to the left-turn lane, from which I would turn onto my street. The street already had a red light. There was a car sitting just ahead of the stop line of the left-turn lane, just sitting there under the red light. As I pull up to the stop line, it suddenly pulls out and turns left, running the red light, just as the cross street got its green, meaning it held up more traffic.

    What is it with people in this city today?
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  • #2
    I see this downtown in my city ALL the time. People just cross whenever they want, and never get hit.

    Meanwhile, pepole like me who actually USE the crosswalks have the most trouble. One the ones where there is no light signal but have the stripes (meaning if a pedestrian is in view, drivers MUST stop to let them cross), it takes so long to wait for a car to stop its actually faster to wait until there's a long enough break in the flow of traffic to make a run for it (often 15+ min).

    In a crosswalk where we have the walk signals, I've actually been hit (sort of, they smaked my purse, but I was unharmed; but the driver had the nerve to flip me off too) in the middle of the crosswalk while I have the signal. When the walk signal turns on, not only is ALL traffic stopped (including the usually legal right turn on red), but in that section of town, a BELL also sounds. It's pretty bad when pedestrians in the crosswalk nearly get hit by people not stopping in time, even though the lights are obviously red and no other traffic is moving.

    So while it still pisses me off, in this town anyway, I can't blame pedestrians for walking into the street instead of using the crosswalks...cause apparently, you're not any safer by using them!

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    • #3
      We had a slight snowfall last night of about an inch. But it was enough to make the roads really slick. Lots of accidents and whatnot.

      I was taking the old highway home to avoid the logjam that the accidents had created on the freeway, and as I was about to go through a green light past Wal-Mart, some random total idiot with a death wish raced across the icy 4 lane highway on foot.

      I mean, I feel bad for people who have to walk everywhere....but on a 4 lane highway with a speed limit of 50 mph, it is NOT smart to ever dart across it when there is traffic coming!

      And that idiot is also lucky he didn't fall and crack his head open. Running on ice is just as smart as shoving a fork in the toaster.
      You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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      • #4
        Try living in NYC

        New York City is the king city of the drivers who don't respect the crosswalks. I have nearly been run over by cabbies twice when I have had the right of way (and that was with cops near the people running the lights). That being said, I have seen many pedestrians almost go splat. So its not all the drivers, but you really take your life into your hands crossing the street in New York City. On top of it being dangerous to cross the street, I wish New York would clear the storm drains so the cutouts in the sidewalks would drain so you wouldn't get a boot full of water every time you step down off the sidewalk.

        Btw, Blas your quote about the fork and the toaster is epic win! May I swipe for my siggy?
        Last edited by SteverinoNY; 01-30-2009, 04:04 AM. Reason: Adding
        Running on ice is just as smart as shoving a fork in the toaster - Blas in regards to a dry pool diving team member who decided to run across a 50 mph highway following an ice storm

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        • #5
          That reminds me... the Metro always stops at the corner, right at the light, and disgorges about 20 passengers on the way home. Our lane is waiting for a green light to turn right onto the main street, and traffic on the main street usually has the green. So, what do they do? They just run everywhichway. All in front of the traffic with the right of way, and in front of the traffic that is waiting, only there they like to weave in and out of the cars instead of using the crosswalks. They get right about in the center of each of the streets before they slow down and shuffle across. Extra points if the light changes and they can hold up traffic both ways.

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          • #6
            Me? Epic win? You make me blush. I'd be honored!
            You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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            • #7
              Quoth blas87 View Post
              Me? Epic win? You make me blush. I'd be honored!
              You don't have any reason to blush. Your verbal descriptions of the rejects at life you work with and live near are pure gold. I wish I could be 1/2 as creative with my language. The only thing I can do with my language is curse and as we all know most people who curse and do no more are about as intelligent as a brick. I am not the most linguistically talented person in the world.

              And, back on topic, I almost got struck by a taxi cab today when I was moving, but this time it was actually my fault. I would not be surprised if there is a post about me being an idiot haha.
              Running on ice is just as smart as shoving a fork in the toaster - Blas in regards to a dry pool diving team member who decided to run across a 50 mph highway following an ice storm

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              • #8
                You simply haven't been here long enough. I have one of the worst potty mouths (or rather, hands) on this site. I do try to keep it down, though. Nowhere near as bad as I am in real life.

                I don't know who came up with dry pool team member, but THAT is pure genius. A lot of my nicknames for coworkers and my little "blasphemisums" come from coworkers or things that have taken a while to put together.
                You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                • #9
                  Quoth blas87 View Post

                  I don't know who came up with dry pool team member, but THAT is pure genius.
                  If it wasn't me, I think I at least use that one the most often.
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                  • #10
                    A long long time ago when I was getting my driver's license I remember the fun tidbits with scoring. Obviously if you hit a pedestrian you were going to fail (and have all kinds of additional trouble besides)... but every time you slowed down for one of them, even when they didn't have the right of way, you lost 2 points... 10 (or maybe it was 15?) total and you wouldn't be getting a license.
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                    • #11
                      Cats, you don't live in San Francisco, do you? My husband hates driving there so much that when we go I HAVE to do the driving.


                      Steverino, you left out an important word: it's "dry pool diving team member."
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                      • #12
                        I just yelled at a crap driver coming home from the store. She pulled out in front of me on the freakin' highway. She even had a yield sign. I laid on the horn and she just ignored me and got over in front of me anyway. Needless to say I was yelling at her calling her the "C" word and she had the nerve to roll her eyes at ME! Hoped my middle finger made your day.

                        I've vowed that the next car that I drive down here that gets converted into scrap metal from some idiot redneck moron that I'm gonna create a spinoff to www.lacantdrive.com.

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                        • #13
                          One of the joys I have at work is collecting money from the idiot pedestrians/bicyclists who run into our customer's cars, causing damage needing repair. Yeah, those are fun phone calls to make. Occasionally, I do have the reasonable person who recognizes that they were total idiots to walk/ride across the street when they did and are at fault. Usually however, it devolves into threats of lawyers, etc. Even if there are 6 witnesses saying that they darted unexpectedly across the street and the driver couldn't have avoided him, if it goes to trial it's nearly always going to go in favor of the pedestrian. Ugh.

                          You wouldn't believe the number of these dealing with bikes where the rider was drunk. Don't drink and ride, people!

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                          • #14
                            I reckon it's a good idea to fit video cameras to every car. Whether it's recording whenever the ignition is on, or only when a sharp manoeuvre is detected (as is done on some safe-driver schemes), you get the chance to prove your innocence in unexpected situations, and also to shop the real dangerous drivers.

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                            • #15
                              Over here most police departments have then that record all the stops they make. I also hear that they have saved lots of officers from false accusations of sexual assault against women pulled over.

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