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  • Cagers vs Motorcycles

    Quick background terminology....

    Cager = people driving cars, more specifically IDIOTS driving cars.

    Wink = turning your headlights off and then back on, usually to send a polite message to a car or vehicle ahead of you. My BF says that's often used by truckers when passing during certain conditions.



    Well another story of PepperElf driving home from work.

    One day, on the drive home I saw a motorcycle behind me, approaching on the left. Now I try to subscribe to Mom's rules of the road for motorcycles, which is "Give them the same amount of room you'd give another car".. except that I prefer giving them more room than that, cos they're small with less protection.

    I was also in a good/silly mood and remember thinking, "Go, biker, go! Go, biker, go!" like a little cheering squad.


    But anyway, after he passed me I made a point of staying the fuck away from him, and giving him as much room as possible cos... I really don't want biker-guts on my grill, ya know?

    Not so, the other traffic. Other cars started crowding him a bit, and even though I don't get into the whole fight between "bikers vs cars" (seriously there are those who fight over it), even I was calling the other cars "cagers".

    Although the biker himself wasn't totally innocent, since I did see him cut some cars off a couple of times too, shifting lanes.

    As for me, I was changing lanes as required, or as I saw fit, either to pass or to avoid other cars... And eventually I ended up getting closer to Mr. Biker again and finally wanted to pass him.


    I think he was contemplating cutting me off too but... he never did. I think the reason why was because... as I approached him on his left, I made a point of winking the lights at him. Basically saying, "I acknowledge your presence on the road."

    So unlike the other cars, I passed him easily, and switched back after I passed the car that was in front of him, and things progressed quite nicely.

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    ARound my parts, the only two times I see cars winking are:

    1 wink=usually done on the freeway, it's more a "YOU'RE GOING TOO DAMN SLOW GO INTO THE OTHER LANE!" type wink. (usually done when I'm trying to overtake a truck)

    2+ winks=speed camera ahead.
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    • #3
      Quoth PepperElf View Post
      Wink = turning your headlights off and then back on, usually to send a polite message to a car or vehicle ahead of you. My BF says that's often used by truckers when passing during certain conditions.
      The "wink" means "you're clear - it's safe to switch over into my lane". Dousing the low beam is the preferred signal, but due to daytime running lights not all vehicles can do it. An acceptable substitute is to flash the high beams

      Quoth fireheart View Post
      ARound my parts, the only two times I see cars winking are:

      1 wink=usually done on the freeway, it's more a "YOU'RE GOING TOO DAMN SLOW GO INTO THE OTHER LANE!" type wink. (usually done when I'm trying to overtake a truck)

      2+ winks=speed camera ahead.
      Type #1, the "get into the Granny lane, slowpoke!" aggressive signal is always a flash of the high beams. One thing I've started seeing is some people reacting to a driver signalling that they want to change lanes by indicating "stay in the Granny lane, slowpoke!". How do they do this? By flashing their high beams, presumably as an extension of the aggressive "speed up or get out of my way" signal. Remember what I said about the trucker's signal? Sooner or later, one of these aggressive types will try to signal "keep out of my lane" and speed up to pass a truck that needs to change lanes, only to have their signal interpreted as "come on over". Mr. aggressive driver, say hello to the guardrail.
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      • #4
        Yeah when it's the "OMG SLOWPOKE" crap I usually ignore them, because more often than not they're being jackasses anyway.

        I had one guy flashing his high's like crazy once because I was "in his way"... as I was trying to pass another car.

        Fuck him. I don't care. I was driving over the limit and passing someone... he can eat a shitcock sammich if he has problems with that.

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        • #5
          Quoth wolfie View Post
          The "wink" means "you're clear - it's safe to switch over into my lane". Dousing the low beam is the preferred signal, but due to daytime running lights not all vehicles can do it. An acceptable substitute is to flash the high beams



          Type #1, the "get into the Granny lane, slowpoke!" aggressive signal is always a flash of the high beams. One thing I've started seeing is some people reacting to a driver signalling that they want to change lanes by indicating "stay in the Granny lane, slowpoke!". How do they do this? By flashing their high beams, presumably as an extension of the aggressive "speed up or get out of my way" signal. Remember what I said about the trucker's signal? Sooner or later, one of these aggressive types will try to signal "keep out of my lane" and speed up to pass a truck that needs to change lanes, only to have their signal interpreted as "come on over". Mr. aggressive driver, say hello to the guardrail.
          I usually flash my high beams since its easier to reach while driving than the switch for my headlights is. I've never seen the "winking" used to tell someone to speed up or stay out of a lane - I've always used it to let truckers know they can come on over (they're bigger than me so I try to be nice). I'd hate to know what'll happen if an aggressive driver tried that because some trucking companies would blame the trucker for that.

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          • #6
            Back when I used to travel with the CB in the car, I'd grab the mike and say "Hey Schneider [or whoever], you're clear" or something similar, or sometimes just click the mike twice. It was generally obvious who I was, as a K-40/Magnamount combination on the roof of a 4-wheeler is not inconspicuous.

            Hmm. Maybe I ought to get the CB out of the basement and hook it back up...

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            • #7
              as someone who dates a biker and supports "loud pipes saves lives" I want to say thank you for driving respectfully and watching out for that biker.
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              • #8
                thanks

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                • #9
                  Maybe it's just here, but -- I have never seen anyone douse the lowbeams as a signal at all; People here use a double-click of the highbeams to mean "go ahead", and a single or sustained-high-for-5-seconds to mean "U R N IDIOT"/wrong way/"It's ten at night, turn on your damn headlights"/etc
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                  • #10
                    I prefer flipping the lights off and back on quick at night instead of flashing the high beams because the truck driver is probably checking the right side mirror to see if it's clear to get in the right lane and I don't want to blind him/her with my brights.

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