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  • How To Grocery Shop - A Rant

    (Intro: This is a rant I originally wrote on a different message board a year ago. I've updated it slightly as befits this site.)

    As I mentioned in my intro thread here, I work at TBGSITW - The Busiest Grocery Store in the World. I enjoy my job - it pays well, it has the potential to pay a lot more in the future. This is not a rant about that.

    This is a rant about the people in the world who don't seem to have learned the same things I did growing up. As a child I came to understand that there is a certain etiquette to the grocery store; procedures to be followed, forms to be obeyed, Dos and Do-Not-Dos. Before I worked for a grocery store, I believed that most people understood these things. I have come to the realization that a large number of people apparently do not. My best hypothesis is that many of these customers have just arrived about fifteen minutes ago from some country where they don't have "stores" where "food" can be "purchased" for "money", because otherwise the way they behave just beggars belief.

    I would, therefore, like to give the grocery store patrons of the world the following bits of advice on how to complete your shopping expedition expediently and with a minimum of fuss and frustration to store staff and your fellow shoppers;

    Before coming to the store, make sure you have money. I cannot stress this enough; in order to purchase groceries, you need money. My boss doesn't like when I give away the food for free. Make sure you have your wallet or purse with you. (Doubly so if you drove here.) Make sure there is cash, a card, or a checkbook in it. Make sure that we accept the card you're carrying. Make sure there is money on your card. If you use food stamps, know what day your food stamps come in - don't show up on the 1st when you know your money comes on the 5th and expect that your transaction is going to go through. It won't.

    Don't abuse the electric scooters. The scooters are for the convienience of the elderly and infirm. They are not for joyriding. If you can walk on your own, you probably don't need them. Don't try to load your entire month's shopping into the tiny basket on the front - It's not going to end well.Please do not attempt to drive one of our scooter off the property and to your bus stop half a mile away. This actually happened TWICE - the second time, our LP people were actually able to get in a car and catch the would-be thief in the act, confront her on the sidewalk, and threaten to call the police when she claimed that the motorized cart with our logo on it was her private property.

    Because of this, we have now welded on giant steel bars sticking out of the front of the scooters so that they can't clear the front door. I always chuckle a little when I hear the "CLANG!" sound that indicates that someone didn't notice the giant pole in front of their face or the sign saying the scooters can't be taken out of the store.

    Pick out what you can afford. If you know you have $100 to spend, don't put $200 worth of stuff in your cart and wait until you see the total to decide what you want to buy. The cashier and the increasingly-long line behind you will be fighting the urge to stuff you into the freezer case while you decide whether you can make do with six boxes of Laffy-Doodles instead of eight. It's not as though calculators are esoteric pieces of forbidden technology that only rocket surgeons can wield safely. The phone you're toting around with you probably has three of them pre-loaded on it.

    By and large, it's food stamp customers who are worst about this. I have nothing against the food stamp program, but when you show up at the checkout with your grocery cart packed full of at least $400 worth of fresh meat and other expensive goodies and say "stop when you get to $150", I begin to understand why you ended up on food stamps in the first place.

    It's even worse when the items you can't afford are from the bulk bin or behind the deli counter, because we can't restock those. They have to be thrown away. You may as well have just dumped the bag on the ground and stomped on it. The next time you go to the store and the price has gone up, this is probably a part of it.

    Control your dang kids. Here's a little secret; little kids HATE being dragged along to the grocery store. It's full of strangers and bright shiny objects they're not allowed to touch and they're not allowed to do anything but follow you around for an hour. Is it a SURPRISE that they act out? I guarantee you that at any given moment of any given day you can hear the echo of a crying child somewhere in the store. (EVERY hour of the day: There are a surprising number of people out there who think that 2 AM on a school night is the perfect time to take the kids shopping.)

    It's a wonder our species ever survived long enough to develop agriculture when our screaming younglings can be heard from farther away than a jackhammer. Believe it or not, it is not indeed necessary to bring your entire clan tromping through the store with you. Maybe you don't have a babysitter, but that rings a bit hollow when both of you are at the store anyway. Moral of the story: If your kids are too young to be able to help, they don't need to be there. If you must bring them, keep an eye on them and don't let them run off - I don't know how many times i've almost flattened some urchin who wasn't paying attention and ran in front of my forklift.

    Put your toys back where you found them. Perhaps you've decided that you do not, in fact, require 75 lbs. of fresh krill this week. Please either return it to the shelf where you got it from, hand it off to an employee, or give it to the cashier when you get to the checkstand. Don't just toss it on a shelf somewhere and forget about it. Someone has to put that back eventually. The more man-hours the store has to spend cleaning up after you, the more your groceries are going to end up costing to cover that labor. This goes double if it's perishable - nobody wants to find your salmon filet sitting next to the peanut butter the day after you changed your mind about it. That being said, that does not mean anything you change your mind about can just be tossed in a freezer. Your cheese, lettuce, potato chips, hot fried chicken, Pepsi, and training pants do not need to be stored below freezing. If you get a food sample from one of our samplers, please dispose of it in the provided waste receptable. Nobody wants to walk down the aisles collecting your empty cups of yogurt gunk.

    Tell us if you break something. Spills and broken glass happen. That's why we have dozens of cleanup stations with brooms and dustpans and spill absorbant and a maintenance staff. If you drop something, find us and let us know so we can clean it up. We're not going to bite or make you pay for it or shackle you to the radiator and force you to slice roast beef for the deli. The cost of paying medical bills for someone who slips and falls in a spill we didn't know about is a lot more than the cost of a jar of apple butter. The corellary to this is to look in front of you while walking. If there's something spilled on the ground in front of you, for the love of God please GO AROUND. You have no idea how much of a pain it is to clean sugar up off of HALF THE SALES FLOOR because a bag got spilled in one place and fifty people drove right through it and tracked it everywhere.

    On a side note to the above, do not lay milk bottles on their sides in your shopping cart. They will leak, and nobody likes having to follow a trail of spilt milk around the store, dragging a spill pad underneath one foot, and hoping they can catch up to the culprit before they get to the register and complain that they need a new jug of milk because this one is half-empty for some reason.

    Know the name of what you're looking for. We are happy to answer any questions you may have about where a product is located. It is, however, imperative that you know what the thing you are looking for is CALLED. I cannot direct you to "that stuff from the commercial" or "the kind that comes in a green bag". Some stores, like mine, have a large bulk foods section where you can buy products by the pound. If you are buying from this section you are expected to write the bin number from the product you are buying on the bag's twist-tie. Please DO THIS. Our cashiers are not capable of memorizing the appearance and product numbers of the 700+ products we carry in bulk. If you fail this step, please be prepared to tell the cashier what the item is that you're buying. If I ask you "What is this?" and your response is "I don't know", it raises the question of why you would even buy something you can't identify.

    Coupons and you. While our chain doesn't put out its own coupons, we accept manufacturer's coupons. The correct time to offer coupons is during the transaction - not after you swipe your card, while I'm handing you your change, or two weeks later. Coupons are good for the amount listed off of the product listed. You cannot use coupon X for a discount on coupon Y. It is not "false advertising" if we don't carry a product that you have a coupon for - it would not be possible for us to stock every item in the world that a coupon exists for. If your coupon is for $1 off and the product is 75 cents, you do not get a quarter back for buying it. If the coupon is expired, we will not accept it. If it is a photocopy, we will not accept it. If our barcode reader doesn't recognize the barcode, we will not accept it. If you clearly made it on your computer, our security staff will have a polite discussion with you and you will not be invited back.

    How to check out. Make sure the checkstand you are approaching meets all three of the following criteria:
    -There is a cashier standing at it.
    -Its open light is turned on.
    -It does not have a "Closed" sign on it or a barrier across the entrance.
    Do not approach an empty checkstand and start belting your groceries. Cashiers are not genies who will appear if you wish it. The "If you build it, they will come" rule does not apply here. Do not enter a line that is obviously in the process of closing down - cashiers are humans who have to take breaks and go home eventually.
    Once in line, wait for the customer ahead of you to finish putting their items on the belt before putting yours up. If you see that they still have half a cart full, trying to put your things up is only going to create a mess when the belt keeps moving forward, your stuff is right in front of the cashier, and they still have items in their cart.
    Divider bars exist for a reason. After I've scanned through half of the next transaction is the wrong time to mention that this isn't your stuff.
    Please be prepared to pay at the end of your transaction. Do not wait until the cashier gives you your total, then spend several minutes looking around confusedly and passing $20 bills back and forth between your associates.
    Once you have paid and received your change, your transaction is completed. Move forward, collect your groceries, and leave. Do not malinger blocking the stand while you put your change away, balance your checkbook, consult your horoscope, or work on your macrame.

    And lastly...
    Don't shoplift. Our security staff is very good at what they do. We have more cameras than a Vegas casino and the only place in the store you can go without being on camera is the bathroom - and if you go in there with merchandise, they'll know. They will watch you and they will take you to the ground on your way out - which, while it's pretty entertaining to watch, tends to make your fellow shoppers uncomfortable - and if they're generous enough not to have you arrested and prosecuted, you will still be assessed a civil penalty considerably larger than the value of whatever you thought you couldn't do without, and you will be trespassed from all of our locations nationwide for 99 years. Thanks for coming, we'll see you in 2112, tell the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx we said hey.

  • #2
    Excellent list! It's sad that it even needed to be written, but going by what I see in the grocery stores every week....
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    • #3
      All of this makes me very, very glad that it's been over fifteen years sice I last worked at a grocery store. All of these things are dredging up disturbing memories. Let's not forget the people who come in at five minutes before close, who admit to us openly that they KNOW exactly when we close, and then proceed to shop for a full hour so that they can do so without having to deal with the rest of the rabble...>_>

      to , Smapti!
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      • #4
        Thank you!! I don't work in a grocery store, but all this applies to my retail store. (We do sell some groceries.) Also, your writing style is hilarious. I'm still giggling at "working on your macrame." My customers do that. I always pick up my stuff, walk around the corner or over to an empty register, and organize my stuff there.

        and your response is "I don't know", it raises the question of why you would even buy something you can't identify. I know! What is wrong with people?
        Last edited by Food Lady; 04-02-2013, 05:40 AM.
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        • #5
          Quoth EricKei View Post
          Let's not forget the people who come in at five minutes before close, who admit to us openly that they KNOW exactly when we close, and then proceed to shop for a full hour so that they can do so without having to deal with the rest of the rabble...
          Fortunately, we're a 24-hour store so that issue doesn't apple to us. The only times we close are Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve, and about half an hour before closing the store management actually closes and locks the steel grate at the entrance door and posts security at the exit to keep anyone else from getting in. Our employee contract says we're to be off the clock no sooner than 30 minutes after closing and they hold to that.

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          • #6
            Probably my most-hated in that list is the people who decide at checkout what they want (I'll tolerate the 'stop when when the total gets to XX' crowd if they put their most-wanted items first and are nice about it...I don't utilize foodstamps and I know how they work better than some recipients). What the hell were you doing in the store for 20 minutes?! There isn't a forcefield on the cart that prevents you from putting stuff back on the shelf (in the correct place, please).

            Cashiers are monitored on the number of voids they do. Once I scan something, you're buying it unless there's a really good reason...at least I wish I could get away with that.
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            • #7
              Good list. This reminds me of when I was a cashier *shudder*. One thing I would like to add though, is Don't eat the food before you pay. That is STEALING. No nibbling, no grazing. Go home and eat. Go to your car and eat. But NOT in a store BEFORE you paid! Got on my nerves. I'd like to have a pic of my face the 1st time a lady put an empty box of cookies on my belt. What are you a kid? SMH.
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              • #8
                Quoth Smapti View Post

                Don't abuse the electric scooters.
                I will admit, until I joined this board, I never realised that electric scooters were available for hire like that . Most customers I've seen that rely on them generally use their own (and they do have a disability in those cases...we make the morbidly obese walk around )


                Pick out what you can afford.
                I've had this happen a couple of times. I used to offer customers to take off an expensive item first. Funnily enough, those who were wielding gift cards (including the variation that were given out for emergencies) seemed to be capable of budgeting just fine.

                Control your dang kids.
                We had one incident involving a kid falling backwards off of something in our store and splitting his chin.
                Predictably, we all got blasted about it by the (at the time) store manager. To her credit, the mother wasn't overly sucky about it, she did admit that she'd asked him to stop and that our hands were tied. She also continued to shop with us.

                Put your toys back where you found them.
                I HATED this! And while I gave the people who tried to leave the fridge/freezer stuff in the drinks fridges, unfortunately the temps are set differently meaning that the stuff left in those fridges for longer than 30 minutes is no longer good for resale. Ditto for produce (although that could be left in the freezer without problem).


                How to check out.

                I have had the following:

                -Some idiot start loading his groceries because the light was on despite the register otherwise being closed.
                -Some idiot start loading his groceries because I accidentally knocked the "closed" sign down on the OTHER register behind me.
                -Several idiots would try and line up while my supervisors were doing drawer counts.

                And lastly...
                Don't shoplift.
                I have quite a few stories from when I worked as a supermarket cashier involving thefts. My personal favourite involved some idiot running off with a carton of Corona beer (we all actually SAW him steal it btw) from the liquor section. Predictably, the security code gets called and everyone that's NOT tied to a register books it out the store. My manager is TRYING to get involved but can't because he's blocked in at the service desk, so instead, he does this flying leap OVER the front counter and goes chasing off after the guy.

                Yes, they did catch him. And after a shitty day, the closing supervisor invited about half a dozen of the remaining staff members plus me up to the office where we got to watch the dive off the counter over and over again.
                Everyone kept chasing down the night manager for a MONTH after that trying to watch that footage
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                • #9
                  Quoth Smapti View Post
                  Because of this, we have now welded on giant steel bars sticking out of the front of the scooters so that they can't clear the front door. I always chuckle a little when I hear the "CLANG!" sound that indicates that someone didn't notice the giant pole in front of their face or the sign saying the scooters can't be taken out of the store.
                  When I worked at Grocery Store, they had a bar on the cart that went straight up. The thought process was that the bar wouldn't hit the sides of the aisles that way.

                  Unfortunately, that meant that if someone was going full speed out the door, the bar would hit the top of the door and the bottom of the cart could keep going and the driver might flip out the back.

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                  • #10
                    I have quite a few stories from when I worked as a supermarket cashier involving thefts. My personal favourite involved some idiot running off with a carton of Corona beer (we all actually SAW him steal it btw) from the liquor section. Predictably, the security code gets called and everyone that's NOT tied to a register books it out the store. My manager is TRYING to get involved but can't because he's blocked in at the service desk, so instead, he does this flying leap OVER the front counter and goes chasing off after the guy.
                    Didn't see this myself, but during our training before we opened they showed us some actual videos of security incidents that had occurred at stores in our chain. (The regional LP director, who gave this speech, had a scar on his forehead from having a tequila bottle broken over his head, and also showed us the video of THAT happening.)

                    During the graveyard shift at a store in CA, three guys made a run for the door with several bottles of liquor. The security guards chased them out the door - where a few of their buddies were waiting to jump them. One of the guards ran back inside and grabbed a phone and paged the code on the overhead that means "EVERYONE GET UP HERE RIGHT NOW". Cue two dozen freight stockers - including a 400-lb monster so big we didn't even have a uniform shirt big enough for him - running out the door and surrounding the bangers. The product was recovered and the would-be thieves went to jail.

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                    • #11
                      Welcome aboard Smapti! Nice/sad write-up. If it's any consolation, it's almost as frustrating shopping amongst the herd as it is from your side of the belt.

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                      • #12
                        Back in my day as a grocery clerk, I don't know how many times that I would run into the person with the brimming cart and they'd inform me that they only have 50 bucks (which could buy quite a bit but not a brimming cart). I'd have to tell them they better start thinking about stuff to put back.

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                        • #13
                          Ah, that all brings back memories, both of my time at "Ginormous Food" grocery store, and my much longer stint at the wholesale club.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth Smapti View Post
                            Pick out what you can afford.It's not as though calculators are esoteric pieces of forbidden technology that only rocket surgeons can wield safely. The phone you're toting around with you probably has three of them pre-loaded on it.

                            when you show up at the checkout with your grocery cart packed full of at least $400 worth of fresh meat and other expensive goodies and say "stop when you get to $150" It's even worse when the items you can't afford are from the bulk bin or behind the deli counter, because we can't restock those. They have to be thrown away. You may as well have just dumped the bag on the ground and stomped on it.
                            Amazing that they can afford a smartphone (why else would it be able to have 3 calculators?) but not groceries? If a "Stop when you get to $150" customer has non-restockable items, can you "cherry-pick" from the belt to take those items first? That would reduce the amount of wastage.

                            Quoth Smapti View Post
                            Because of this, we have now welded on giant steel bars sticking out of the front of the scooters so that they can't clear the front door. I always chuckle a little when I hear the "CLANG!" sound that indicates that someone didn't notice the giant pole in front of their face or the sign saying the scooters can't be taken out of the store.
                            Quoth Raveni View Post
                            When I worked at Grocery Store, they had a bar on the cart that went straight up. The thought process was that the bar wouldn't hit the sides of the aisles that way.

                            Unfortunately, that meant that if someone was going full speed out the door, the bar would hit the top of the door and the bottom of the cart could keep going and the driver might flip out the back.
                            Any chance of getting an induction loop (like the ones that lock a cart's wheels when it's taken from the parking lot) put in at the door (have to be on a different frequency so carts can go into the parking lot but scooters can't), and have the scooters rigged to turn off (need manager's key to turn them back on) when they cross it? Hard to believe the gall of the scooter thief who claimed the machine clearly marked with the store's logo was hers.
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                            • #15
                              wolfie - That's nothing. There was a classified ad a week or two ago in the local paper from a guy who was selling -- among other things -- grocery carts (which he had, in all likelihood, absconded with in the past) >_<
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