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  • Hotel Tales: "Underhanded Reservation" Edition (Long)

    Had a "lady" come to the desk tonight, she had a reservation through the Brand website. It was a CASH reservation (ie: not guaranteed), and when she came in she presented her Corporate Lodging card as payment.

    Now, I've discussed this particular form of payment before, but I will give a brief description here as a refresher. Basically, business travelers sign up with this company and pay a fee per use for a really great rate at hotels that have a contract with said company. Since the rate is individually negotiated at each hotel, the only way to book a room for Corporate Lodging is to call the hotel directly, or walk in. THERE IS NO WAY TO BOOK THIS TYPE OF ROOM ONLINE. On top of that, a common abuse of the CLC (as it is commonly abbreviated in the industry) is to use it for non business related expenses. Thus when it is presented, if we are AT ALL suspicious as to the purpose of their visit, we can request some sort of proof that they are here for work and not vacation.

    Per our contract with CLC if we have a room available, we MUST sell it to the person presenting the CLC card (unless we have another reason to refuse service). The rate we negotiate with CLC is much lower than our regular rate, and thus if we have a reservation for a room at the regular rate, and they then try to use CLC, we are essentially losing money that we were, in a way, promised. What this lady did is ensure that a room would be available, and then try to use the knowledge that I detailed earlier in the paragraph to get the room cheaper than she booked it for.

    When confronted with this situation, I was unsure how to proceed, as we do want to keep up occupancy, but I don't like people who make fraudulent reservations. So, I got my manager, who initially told me to refuse her. He then came up, and asked her for a work order to prove she was on business, as if this was the case, we would have done as she ordered asked (cancel her online reservation, and make a new one under CLC). She insisted that she didn't need to provide a work order, as it wasn't required for CLC. However, per our contract we CAN ask for this. She swore in the process of arguing with my GM, who promptly told her she needed to go elsewhere. (This, according to him, was the primary reason she was refused a room)

    She proceeded to call CLC, who then called us to find out what the problem was. My manager explained the situation, and was told by CLC that we had every right to refuse service. She then called our corporate number, asking to speak to a supervisor immediately.

    She complained to corporate that this (booking online, paying through CLC) had never been an issue before, and that rep informed her that her reservation had already been cancelled. When she ended the call, she asked us if we would then check her in under CLC, and she was again informed that this would not happen. She then tried calling corporate AGAIN. I informed her that they can't force us to sell her a room. She continued to complain to corporate, and obviously didn't get anywhere as she asked for my and my GMs name before she left.

    SC
    "...four of his five wits went halting off, and now is the whole man governed with one..." W. Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing Act I, Sc I

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  • #2
    Ugh. I HAAAAAAAATE CLC people with almost every ounce of my being. (Except for the leftover ounces I use to hate people who book through Expedia/Hotwire/etc. and then get mad when they're put in the crap rooms.)
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    • #3
      I will forever be amazed by people so intent to "beat" the system that they'll spend hours of their life that they'll never get back on sheer principle of never paying more than the next guy....

      Really, there is no giant scoreboard keeping track of how much you're "ahead", why the religious-like zeal that people like this pursue every perceivable freebie?

      Maybe it's just me, but I find it incredibly easy and stress free to walk into a place, put down my money, and walk out with what I wanted, the fact I COULD have knocked $5 off the price through 40 minutes of haggling, signing up for discount cards or other such machinations doesn't seem worth the effort when I could already be on my way to USING what I bought that thing for in the first place, but then again, that's just me.
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      • #4
        Good on your managers. Nice to see some spine.

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        • #5
          We don't do CLC though many other locations in our brand do. From everything I've seen they're more trouble than they're worth.

          CLC or not, that SC was an EW all the way through. She probably wasn't on business. Otherwise she'd have no problem showing you her work orders. She was busted and got mad about it.
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          • #6
            CLC's are not too bad here...although we started having to hold back a bit.

            A guy tried to get a free room while on CLC over a very minor complaint...egads, and another one gives me attitude if *HIS* room is not available.

            I'm just glad new rules were put in place :]

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            • #7
              Quoth Argabarga View Post
              I will forever be amazed by people so intent to "beat" the system that they'll spend hours of their life that they'll never get back on sheer principle of never paying more than the next guy....

              Really, there is no giant scoreboard keeping track of how much you're "ahead", why the religious-like zeal that people like this pursue every perceivable freebie?
              I can somewhat understand it... I find the idea of overpaying appalling... but that simply means I buy store brand whenever available and comparison shop and use the occasional coupon... the idea of spending time haggling is foreign to me (it takes so much less time to just find somewhere that is selling it for cheaper already).
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              • #8
                My view is simple.

                I only have so much 'cope' during the day. So much time-and-effort I can spend on things. If the amount I might save is worth less than the cost in time-and-effort, I've actually made a loss.


                For people whose time is actually worth a dollar amount, you can even quantify the loss.
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                4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

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                • #9
                  Quoth flyingturtle View Post
                  Ugh. I HAAAAAAAATE CLC people with almost every ounce of my being. (Except for the leftover ounces I use to hate people who book through Expedia/Hotwire/etc. and then get mad when they're put in the crap rooms.)
                  All I want is a clean room, a comfortable bed, heat/AC that functions properly, a TV so I can catch some sort of weather report and maybe a couple hours of movies or tv shows. Lack of mold is good, as is free internet so I can hit up CNN and few other news sites.

                  I don't understand why some people want a luxury room for a single night on a road trip. All you are going to do is catch a meal, sleep and get breakfast, then get back on the road.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth AccountingDrone View Post
                    I don't understand why some people want a luxury room for a single night on a road trip. All you are going to do is catch a meal, sleep and get breakfast, then get back on the road.
                    Some people book their entire vacation stay on those 3rd party websites. If the hotel puts them in a less desirable room, those people are probably not going to be happy. That said, you get what you pay for.

                    SC
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                    • #11
                      Quoth flyingturtle View Post
                      (Except for the leftover ounces I use to hate people who book through Expedia/Hotwire/etc. and then get mad when they're put in the crap rooms.)
                      I'm curious; why do they get the crap rooms?

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                      • #12
                        Quoth TheCheerfulTreeRat View Post
                        I'm curious; why do they get the crap rooms?
                        Because they pay crap rates... and then the hotel gets hit with a commission on top of taking a hit with the crap rate. The third party sites are a necassary evil... without them a lot of people would never know about your hotel, but at the same time, with them you never make a decent profit off the sale. As an example, we charge $55 a night here, Expedia books the room at $30 (but I am willing to bet that they are charging the guest $40, because their contract says not to disclose their rates, which I know means that they are charging more than what they pay us to pad their profits on top of the commission), then we have to pay them a 10% commission on top of that, so that $55 room just got sold for essentially $27. Now, we can survive off of that little of revenue, because we are fortunate enough to be in the position where our hotel is a loss leader... hell, for our frequent players we'll sell a room for much less (or even give it away) if it gets them to gamble... but most of the people who book on the third party sites aren't going to be big gamblers and it can really hurt the places that actually depend on their room revenue to make a profit.
                        Now, the guest who actually pays us $55 (or is a good enough gambler in our case that they are worth at least that much in extra gaming revenue by being put in a better room) is of course going to get preferential treatment over the guest who is paying us $27, because that $55 person is the one we want to come back, the $27 person we will gladly pass off to another hotel for their next visit to drain their profit.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth TheCheerfulTreeRat View Post
                          I'm curious; why do they get the crap rooms?
                          Also, on top of what smileyeagle said, those third party retailers have a pretty high incidence of being no shows, so why waste a good room on someone who isn't coming, when you can put them in your less desirable rooms, and still get paid.

                          SC
                          "...four of his five wits went halting off, and now is the whole man governed with one..." W. Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing Act I, Sc I

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                          • #14
                            Aha... Thanks for the clarification!

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                            • #15
                              We used to take CLC like you. Then we took an arrow in the knee.

                              Anyways, we took it for a while. Was a big hassle. We were still required to get CC for incidentals but 9 times out of 10, they wouldn't have it thinking their CLC was good enough. I danced inside when it was announced we would no longer accept it.
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