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  • Sometimes ghosts can be the worst SCs...

    ...and the worst thing is, you can't ban the bastards


    I was reading an old newspaper at my friend Daithi's house earlier and found an article on a ghost at a pub that I thought might give you a bit of a laugh (as well as a look at what the truly dedicated SCs get up to in the afterlife.) Then, a story of my own...

    "The apparition at the twelfth-century Belper Arms in Newton Burgoland, Leicestershire only targeted females, a staff member said. 'If the girls are young and pretty the ghost always goes for their behinds. If they're older and more settled, he touches them on the shoulder to make them turn round - presumably to see whether they are worth his further attention.' The same month another ghost was reported pinching the bottoms of barmaids working at the Black Horse at Windsor, Berkshire, while in Corby, Northamptonshire, the ghost of a Cavalier was lifting ladies' skirts, ticking the tops of their legs and pinching their bottoms.'

    In October 1981, the eighteenth-century Blue Bell pub at Warrington in Cheshire was forced to hang a notice in the bar saying 'Don't blame the lads, ladies - it's only our ghost!' It appeared that the ghost had groped three barmaids, the landlady, and a number of female customers. The landlady, Lydia Wrench, said 'No one has ever seen the ghost, but a few of us have felt his presence. He just grabs your behind and then pats it. Often the nearest man gets the blame, but it's happened too often when there was no one else around. We've also had a few glasses flying off the shelf - but he's really a friendly ghost.'"


    There's a nice thought.... all the creepy old dudes who hit on you at work might come back after they've kicked it to pinch your butt


    And now for me...

    Backstory: I was an... unusual child. When I was a baby my eyes would follow things across the room that no one else could see, my parents would hear me chattering away to someone at night in my crib, I seemingly taught myself to read, and when I was three I told my mother that "I had a nightmare Mummy but it's OK, a nice lady came to sit with me." My mother had enough experience of me to not immediately write it off, and asked me to describe the lady. I gave a perfect description of her mother, who had died in 1976, 10 years before I was born, and who I'd never seen a photograph of. I started showing instincts that bordered on precognition - I'd react to something before it happened, eg the time I was in the garden reading and suddenly got up and walked away from the house, only for a bunch of slates to break loose from the roof less than a minute later and land where I'd been sitting. When I was seven, I refused to go out to play because "the little dead boy is at the end of the road again and I don't like him."

    As I got older, other things went on. Whenever I lost my temper, any electronics went crazy - I once burned out the motor on my mother's sewing machine after it went haywire and started sewing maniacally fast when no one was anywhere near it (I was at the computer on the other side of the room.) My mother had to turn it off at the wall to stop it catching on fire. Another time (well, several other times) every light in the house fused at once.

    When I was thirteen, I walked into one of the school buildings and saw a man staring at me from the centre of the courtyard, before he vanished. I also saw a woman in a beautiful period dress in the old building. I kept it to myself until I was in the headmistress' office for some infraction or other, and saw a portrait of her. The headmistress said she was the daughter of an old headmaster here in the 18th century and was known to haunt one of the staircases, and that some of the teachers wouldn't go up there. I told her they had a problem then since I'd seen her in the General Office

    I ended up getting referred to a psychiatrist by my school, because they thought I might be schizophrenic. I went to the session, spent two hours in there, and when I came out the doctor told my mother that "she's not ill, she's gifted." Sheryl Lee, who spent a lot of time with Native Americans studying for a role, told me I was a shaman; several other people have said similar things. Apparently it runs down the family; my great-great-grandmother, who I am the spit of, was the same.

    Anyway, onto the main story!

    Some of you may know I used to work in a bar near my house in Belfast. It wasn't exactly a high-class bar - it was run out of a rundown house and broke pretty much every licensing law in the book. So, a standard West Belfast bar Pretty soon after I started there my bosses started leaving me alone to work (once they'd seen I wouldn't take any of the customers' shit) especially in the evenings (which NO ONE liked working - for reasons that will become clear.)

    Weird things happened at that bar. The front door would slam open at the same time at night (around 11pm), several times a week. The Guinness taps would go dry for no reason, and when I went to check the barrels everything was fine. Once, a whole shelf of glasses was swept off the shelf and onto the floor. Aaaand there was the butt-groping The first few times I did blame the poor guy closest to me, and more than a few undeserved slaps were meted out, but then it happened when I was alone... and then again. And again. Another time I heard, clear-as-a-bell, a man with a thick Armagh accent shout "HEY!" from the centre of the room when there was no one there.

    In retrospect, I think the poor guy was probably just pissed that he couldn't get a drink

    One evening, I was already in a grumpy mood, and the fourth or fifth time the taps went dry in the space of about an hour I finally snapped, threw down the cloth and yelled "Oh, for FUCK'S SAKE!"

    Bar:

    I think I scared the ghost just as much as the usual drunks, given that he didn't come back for a couple weeks.

    But then, he was back, making noise and causing trouble and grabbing my ass like ever before. I was about midway through my shift when I had an idea, poured a pint of Guinness, and set it on the end of the bar. A barful of drunks immediately descended on it, licking their lips.

    Me: DON'T YOU TOUCH THAT, YOU GREEDY SODS, OR I'LL STRING YOU UP BY THE HAIR OF YOUR BALLS!
    Men:

    And we didn't have any more trouble that night. The next night, I poured the Guinness as soon as I got there, and the door slammed as usual but that was it. No groping, no breaking things, nothing. One time a guy grabbed the glass off the bar and drank it while I wasn't looking, and apparently he had such a miserable experience that evening he fled after less than an hour and never came back Now, no one fucks with that pint of Guinness - it just sits there all night until it's replaced the next day.

    Sadly I don't work there anymore... but I've heard they still do the Guinness thing. I feel kind of sorry for the poor guy in a way, all he wanted was a drink... but then again did he really have to throw those tantrums? Cleaning glass up every other night really, really gets old fast.

    Also, I don't appreciate having my ass grabbed.


    The only thing I can figure is that he was one of the many people killed suddenly in the civil war here - there have been hundreds of shootings and bombings here. And, like any good Irishman, he won't let anything get in the way of a drink or two... even being dead


    So... has anyone else here had any ghostly SCs come to visit? And what did you do?
    "Asking an Irish girl to tone it down a notch is about the same as asking a wolf to leave the sheep alone. Good luck with that. " - Jester, about me

  • #2
    That's incredible! I'm happy that you were able to appease him, I'm sure that drink was really all he wanted.
    I see fairies, personally, but I've never seen a ghost. Felt them though. Actually was sat on once by one. Slept at a friends apartment on the couch. heard footsteps come down the hall and ignored it thinking it was a friend (had a blanket over my head). footsteps came over to the couch and then he sat on me. When they say that it's like a weight on your chest they are not lying. Was gasping for air for a moment until he went away.
    Asked the friends if they had invited fairies in ( don't ever do that unless you know what you are dealing with) but they told me 'no, the place is haunted.' Because they could not tell me that before I stayed.

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    • #3
      Loved this story.

      Ghosts can be upsetting, but normally it is quite easy to placate them... usually just acknowledging their presence is enough...
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      • #4
        Quoth C. Cecil Ivanish View Post
        Loved this story.

        Ghosts can be upsetting, but normally it is quite easy to placate them... usually just acknowledging their presence is enough...

        Yup, that's the way I look at it - even the grumpy ones are basically the same as the old drunks that harass you in the street and make random threats, and they don't scare me, so why would the ghosts?

        That said, though, there was one that I really, REALLY did not care for - I was househunting a few years back before I moved into my current house, and I looked at one in the Rocks (a group of streets further down the Falls.) The house wasn't great, but it wasn't awful, either, and given how poor I was at the time it was a decent prospect - until I went up onto the third floor.

        I got hit with this horrific wave of malice, if that makes any sense. I mean, it looked like normal up there, but there might as well have been a huge dark cloud. It made me feel freezing cold right to the pit of my stomach. I don't scare easy, but I turned and hauled ass down those stairs and told the agent point-blank I would NOT be renting that house.
        "Asking an Irish girl to tone it down a notch is about the same as asking a wolf to leave the sheep alone. Good luck with that. " - Jester, about me

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        • #5
          This is so funny! I actually live right over a haunted bar but there's not a lot of stuff that goes on around me (I think the lady in the stairwell likes me.) There have been several instances of hauntings throughout its history. A few years ago my landlord's mother died. Well she used to wear this perfume and every so often when I walk through the back hallway I walk right through a cloud of her perfume!

          Not only that but there are cases where martini glasses (only martini glasses) will do somersaults off the bar top and land perfectly unbroken on the floor behind the bar.

          My upstairs door will open if I don't lock it at night. Several times. The doorknob will move and unlatch and everything. Plus my lights are on a dimmer switch and they'll randomly turn on and off (the dimmer knob actually being physically TWISTED).

          Most of my other experiences can be explained by my being stressed and seeing/hearing things (It used to happen in college a lot).

          We DO have haunt-type stuff that happens at the gas station every so often as well. Less than 30 yards from our store is a highway overpass where a bum was murdered and a few of us have simultaneously heard a man say "excuse me" when there was nobody in the store. Not only that but one time I was walking up toward the counter when a cup FLEW out of the cup dispenser and hit the counter.

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          • #6
            There's a lot of weird crap out there. I'm happy your experiences with it have been mostly positive or no worse than annoying.

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            • #7
              Quoth Marlowe View Post
              Yup, that's the way I look at it - even the grumpy ones are basically the same as the old drunks that harass you in the street and make random threats, and they don't scare me, so why would the ghosts?
              They probably are even less scary than the jakeys as they lack... well... "substance"?

              Quoth Marlowe View Post
              I got hit with this horrific wave of malice, if that makes any sense. I mean, it looked like normal up there, but there might as well have been a huge dark cloud. It made me feel freezing cold right to the pit of my stomach.
              Funny enough, when we bought the house we are living in both me and my wife had the impression of a quite benign presence. But the lady upstairs keeps telling us that in the attic flat (which belongs to her family, who rents it out) she always has a feeling very similar to what you just described.

              In our local pub, I am told that occasionally pints of Guinness (only Guinness!) left temporarily unattended fall as if someone was trying to pick them up but didn't have enough strength to hold them...
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              • #8
                Spoilers: That's not ecoplasm that the ghosts are covering the girls with.
                To right the countless wrongs of our days... We shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise...Oh, what a wonderful world such would be...

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                • #9
                  Darn you Hero, I was drinking a soup!
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                  • #10
                    Quoth Mr Hero View Post
                    Spoilers: That's not ecoplasm that the ghosts are covering the girls with.
                    Ecoplasm: The new, more environmentally friendly version of ectoplasm! Now with 25% less carbon!

                    Ahem.

                    I asked a friend who still works there, they do still do the Guinness thing and still haven't had any more problems... although once in a while if a REALLY pretty girl comes in, he'll have a bit of a grope still
                    "Asking an Irish girl to tone it down a notch is about the same as asking a wolf to leave the sheep alone. Good luck with that. " - Jester, about me

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                    • #11
                      Here's a Wiki page on places in the US...

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

                      But I have a few questions, because I'm confused.

                      A lot of religions have an "afterlife" that you go to when you die. In Christianity, it's Heaven or Hell.

                      Catholics, to my knowledge, believe in Purgatory, which as best I understand it (not being Catholic myself) is sort of like a "waiting room" for souls and people who have passed on. I apologize if this is incorrect. I do not mean to offend, and I definitely don't want to get into fratching territory.

                      So, assuming that something happens to you when you die, why would the spirit stay on earth? Is there unfinished business it has to try to take care of? Does it not know it's dead? I'm asking because I'm honestly curious what opinions are on this.

                      Also, why does the ghost/apparition basically stay where it is? In other words, if a house is haunted, can the spirit/ghost/apparition go where it wants, or is it "stuck" in that particular house? If so, why?
                      Last edited by mjr; 07-17-2013, 06:54 PM.
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                      • #12
                        I rented a small house in Pensacola in 1981-82. One of the bedrooms was my young daughters room. (she was about 18 months when we moved in). The door to that room closed TIGHT. As in you actually had to put your shoulder to it to open it. And yet, EVERY time my daughter kicked off her covers, the door opened. We had gamers (we RPG'd, my kids and I still do) over who felt the door just didn't close properly. So they went and closed it and pushed against it to be sure it was solid. And when the door opened, and they looked within, sure enough, S was uncovered again.
                        A few months before we left, a school behind the property was having a survey done. They were claiming the houses along there were using some of the schools property and they wanted to expand the field. While doing the survey, the surveyors uncovered a small graveyard in the backyard. 1700's I think?? anyway quite quite old. One of the stones said only 'nanny'. So we figured that the ghost letting us know when the baby was uncovered was a nanny in her lifetime.

                        (BTW, the school was actually using a few feet of the house's property. They had to pay backrent and either buy the property or keep the kids off during school hours. It they had just let it go, they would have had use at least until someone else surveyed their own property. lol. don't know what the school did in the end.)

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                        • #13
                          Quoth mjr View Post
                          So, assuming that something happens to you when you die, why would the spirit stay on earth? Is there unfinished business it has to try to take care of? Does it not know it's dead? I'm asking because I'm honestly curious what opinions are on this.

                          Also, why does the ghost/apparition basically stay where it is? In other words, if a house is haunted, can the spirit/ghost/apparition go where it wants, or is it "stuck" in that particular house? If so, why?
                          Opinions and beliefs on why ghosts stay vary depending on the person you're asking, but the most common reason that most of these beliefs include is "unfinished business." What that might be varies from haunting to haunting.
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                          • #14
                            Chances of skirting fratching... but a brief explanation is as follows.

                            No one's certain exactly what these paranormal phenomena actually are. There are many different scientific explanations for things that produce the feeling of a haunting, be it electromagnetic waves from some source of electricity nearby, to people's minds playing tricks on them. The human mind is notoriously easy to fool into believing something.

                            However, there are instances where movement happens where it shouldn't. Cold spots where they shouldn't be. Different reactions to different areas... And those are what are commonly interpreted as ghosts.

                            Some theories are that a "ghost" is actually residual emotions imprinted on an area rather than an actual spirit. Other theories have to do with how purgatory is related to Earth. Others still have to do with String theory.

                            And yes, I'm rattling most of this off the top of my head at the moment.

                            Why a ghost exists is typically unknown. And there's also the question of whether they actually do exist in the haunting area.

                            Not to downplay any experiences, as all are personal.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth mjr View Post

                              So, assuming that something happens to you when you die, why would the spirit stay on earth? Is there unfinished business it has to try to take care of? Does it not know it's dead? I'm asking because I'm honestly curious what opinions are on this.

                              Also, why does the ghost/apparition basically stay where it is? In other words, if a house is haunted, can the spirit/ghost/apparition go where it wants, or is it "stuck" in that particular house? If so, why?
                              There can be a number of reasons why the spirit stays. In some cases it is actually the spirit and it may not realize it is dead. Sometimes there is a reason such as, It wants to let a family member know something and it can't do so..
                              Or a malicious person may refuse to move onward due to sheer nastiness or a fear of punishment in the afterlife.
                              In some cases it is not the actual spirit that is there, but the, well let's say 'essence' of the situation. like fear or hate or joy that was so strong (yes Joy is a possibility) that it remains even when the spirit has passed.
                              sometimes the situation is such that there is what you might call a 'movie track'. Where a scene plays out over and over, locked into that place by the strong emotions and atmospheric conditions at the time the original scene took place.

                              Usually the ghost is stuck in the same place/area they passed in. Probably because that area has something about it, energy flow or such, that allows the ghost to exist and become active there.

                              I'm no expert. just a well-read interested person.

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