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  • #16
    Wow. I knew some places in Alaska had dry areas, but in the lower 48?
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    • #17
      The only "lick her laws" I recall here in AR is that you can't sell it on Sunday. From midnight to 11:59pm, booze is off limits in stores. Our real drunks would come in on Sat evening and do their weekend "shopping." It was usually the yuppie party with the piss poor planning that would come in and freak out about the laws. All I could say was, "I'm afraid I can't sell you this, due to Arkansas State Law concerning alcohol sales on Sundays. If you want to complain, please see your elected officials."
      If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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      • #18
        Quoth Tama View Post
        Wow. I knew some places in Alaska had dry areas, but in the lower 48?
        Alabama has one or two dry localities. I at least give them that it's an intellectually honest opinion - they think alcohol is bad so they ban it (here in PA we have have 'alcohol is bad, so the state will take a monopoly on it')
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        • #19
          When I was in college, I lived in the tiny slumtown next to the campus. Liquor stores in that specific town stopped at either 11pm or midnight, I can't remember. BUT, the neighboring town 2 miles away didn't stop selling until 2 or 3am.

          You can see where this brilliant plan is going, as hundreds of already-drunk college kids would pile into cars at 12:15am to drive over to the next town to get more booze.

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          • #20
            Quoth mhkohne View Post
            Alabama has one or two dry localities. I at least give them that it's an intellectually honest opinion - they think alcohol is bad so they ban it (here in PA we have have 'alcohol is bad, so the state will take a monopoly on it')
            And just to muddy the water a bit more, the state holds a monopoly on the sale of hard liquor/wines/spirits through the "state store" system. Aside from bars/restaurants with approved liquor licenses, there's nobody else to legally buy hard stuff from in this state.

            But, beer and other "lesser" alcoholic beverages can be bought on the retail level from state-licensed distributors.

            This has FURTHER muddied the waters in that a number of grocers with in-store cafe's as part of their setup have been able to end-run the system and get a "beer" license, but still can't sell the hard stuff, probably confusing the heck out of people who come in from out of town/state and don't get that just because grocery "A" has beer, it doesn't have wine, and that grocery "B", because it has no sit-down seating to eat, cannot classify itself as a restaurant and thus can't get approval to sell beer no matter how bad they want to.

            There was a push a year ago to totally scrap the system and "privatize" sales, but it must have died in the Senate as that was the last I hear of it.
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            • #21
              Quoth EricKei View Post
              Back in the State of Confusion LA, we had ONE "dry" Parish (what those lesser states refer to as "counties" ). Aside from there, no limits I am aware of on drinking - and in NOLA, many bars didn't really get rolling until after Midnight (non-drinker here)...We did have Open Container laws, which famously can be circumvented (at least there) at drive-thru daiquiri joints because they HAND you a straw and put a plastic lid on your drink cup.

              Now that I'm one state to the east, half of the surrounding counties are all *completely* dry, making it a misdemeanor to even possess the stuff. If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket and they spot your sixpack, you get a citation for Possession.
              Beauregard Parish home of town of DeRidder and the complete lack of liquor in their stop-n-robs.
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              • #22
                In NC you can't sell it on Sundays until afternoon. Can't remember the time as I never worked Sunday mornings.
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                • #23
                  Quoth Argabarga View Post
                  There was a push a year ago to totally scrap the system and "privatize" sales, but it must have died in the Senate as that was the last I hear of it.
                  You know, if there's any interest, it can be put on the ballot by collecting enough signatures. Just sayin'.
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                  • #24
                    Quoth drjonah View Post
                    A while back, I had a guy go ballistic on me because he couldn't buy beer. He tried to tell me that he should be able to buy alcohol whenever he wants because HE'S A VETERAN! He died for this country!!
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                    • #25
                      Arkansas has dry counties and wet counties. Honestly, I think it's silly simply because there seem to be more wrecks due to drunk driving in the dry counties than the wet. After all, the local drunks of the dry county can't get their booze without driving at least 25 to 40 miles to get to a wet county to buy it.

                      Dry and wet are established at the county level. A few have actually gone wet to see a reduction in accidents... and an increase in tax revenue!
                      If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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                      • #26
                        Quoth Argabarga View Post
                        If by "over there" you mean over a state line, then you may have some luck, otherwise....
                        I've heard that PA authorities like to "stake out" liquor stores immediately across the state line, and if a car with PA plates pulls out of the parking lot and heads back home, "Yer in a heap of trouble, boy!".

                        Quoth EricKei View Post
                        Now that I'm one state to the east, half of the surrounding counties are all *completely* dry, making it a misdemeanor to even possess the stuff. If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket and they spot your sixpack, you get a citation for Possession.
                        What happens in cases where booze is being transported THROUGH a dry county on its way from one "wet" jurisdiction to another? If an interstate highway passes through a dry county, that would make it rather interesting to arrange the logistics of supplying a liquor store on the other side of the dry county from the source.
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                        • #27
                          Tama - There are certain religious influences to that, which we can't really get into on this board *cough*ahem*

                          wolfie - I would presume that commercial transportation has special regulations/requirements, one of which is probably "no way to access the boozeahol without stopping the truck and entering the cargo trailer" ^_^
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                          • #28
                            Quoth Tama View Post
                            Wow. I knew some places in Alaska had dry areas, but in the lower 48?
                            Lynchburg, Tennessee- home of the Jack Daniels Distillery is in a dry county. They can make it and you can tour the distillery... but you can't buy it near there.

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                            • #29
                              Quoth wolfie View Post
                              I've heard that PA authorities like to "stake out" liquor stores immediately across the state line, and if a car with PA plates pulls out of the parking lot and heads back home, "Yer in a heap of trouble, boy!".
                              This is true. I actually had no idea it was illegal -- and I think few other people did either -- until the local paper ran an article about it. The cops were doing just like you said -- staking out the liquor stores just across the state line, looking for people with PA plates, and busting them as soon as they crossed back into PA.

                              I have very strong feelings about the drinking laws in my state, and even as a moderator, I'm finding it very hard to stay within the rules here. So I'll link to a thread I posted on Fratching about that particular subject, and leave it at that. Feel free to add to that thread, but keep it within the rules about "what is" vs "what should be" if you're posting here.

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                              • #30
                                When I lived in Idaho, I don't recall there being any restrictions on where could sell, just when. Over the border in Oregon, it's state stores only - but it was often worth the trip as they had a superior selection.
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