if you want help....ASK ME!

[Ree]

Why is spawn so bad?...
...In any case, I have seen kids called worse here.

Thank you for your outright defiance of the site owner, as well as a mod, that has resulted in taking this thread
I think you are under the mistaken impression that this is a democracy and you can pretty much argue your point and we will back off and say, "Oh, you're quite right. We've made a terrible error."
You would be wrong.

I, for one, am tired of the anger directed at children on this board, when it's the parents who deserve the criticism.
Your quote illustrates my point exactly.
I am sick and tired of discussing this issue with the members here.
It has been popping up on a regular basis.

Small children are innocent. If they do stuff that ticks you off, they don't have the mental capacity to realize that what they are doing is annoying.
Their parents didn't do their job to teach them any better.

To compare them to sucky customers is not a fair comparison. As a rule, customers are adults and responsible for their behaviour.
They have reached the age of reason and now should know what is acceptable social behaviour.

That is the difference.

Now, can we please get this back on track with a reminder that the owner has already asked you to refrain from using those phrases, and arguing against that request is futile?

[Cyanocobalamin]

I was called an "Ijit" when I was little. I still don't know what this really means or if that's even spelled correctly. Idgit?

Back OT, what I do is say hello or "how's it going" or "how are y'all doing" (if a male/female couple). Usually they will greet me back or they will ask for help. Otherwise I will be on my way and I try to check back with them if I see them again in another area of the store.

[Rapscallion]

JUst a note as I'm dashing off to work - quite a number of members are parents. There are also quite a number who are childless.

Let's live in tolerance, folks.

Raspcallion

[kellee]

Oh, and by the way, we prefer that our members don't refer to chidlren as "spawn".

May I interject?
I dissagree! As a cashier in a grocery store, they are frequently shreiking in my ear!annoying! I do agree that children are innocent and are merely a reflection of what their parents taught them so far however I perceived it as...
The writer is just using descriptive language to describe how he/she feels. It enhances the story and makes the writer feel better. Plus I thought it was kinda funny. Its nice that some peoples kids are "little angels" but they can get annoying, thats all.
ps this isn't whining its an opinion, which we are all entitled to.

[Barefootgirl]

Erm, a mod asked everyone to tone down the language. Arguing with her and saying that her decision is wrong is not how we do things here. Spawn is not a word we use to descibe kids in general at CS, so no more whining about this please.

[Rapscallion]

ps this isn't whining its an opinion, which we are all entitled to.

You're entitled to your opinion. We, however, set the standards of this board.

We're not here to attack each other. Many members are parents and feel strongly about their children. Others are happy to be childfree. Some people support one political party, some another. Some have religious convictions, others have none. In all cases, respect each other and do not antagonise each other.

We're here to discuss SCs and work. That is the focus of this board. We're not in a position to put the world to rights. We're in the same boat - don't rock it.

Rapscallion

[kellee]

***some sort of resignation speech I decided to act upon - R***

[ladodger34]

The MODS and their False position of authority. And if ya'll don't like this. TOUGH! BECAUSE I RESIGN FROM THIS SITE!

Not to stir the pot anymore, but since this a privately owned site with mods appointed by the owner, they are hardly in a position of false authority. I am going to assume that Raps pays good money each month to support this site and can make rules, appoint mods, and enforce the rules as he pleases.

Can I assume that it would be safe to say that a child was being a brat because they acted like one? On the other hand, I assume that replacing "children" for "brat" when talking about children in general is not accepted.

Ah well.. why do people think that privately owned websites are a democracy?

[Rapscallion]

I live but to serve.

Rapscallion

[LIW]

Oh man!! I had no idea this would bother anyone. I talk to my son at the store all time like this. I started it when he was just a little baby, because I discovered that if I talked to him, he was much less likely to start screaming. I guess I just never quit!! I've never done it to passively try to get help. I think of it as a good way to talk to myself, but since he's there they don't think I'm as much of a nut!! Or sometimes I'll tell my son we have to somewhere else to get what we want if the store we are at is out of or does not have what we came for. I especially do this if it's something I promised him we would get, because it often keeps him from screaming becuase the store doesn't have what he wants. I will have to watch this in the future. I try really hard to be a good customer, emphasis on try.

[karma_gypsy]

In my case yes. I ask them if I can help them with anything, and they say "no, just looking", after they've been specifically trying to find something.

I have the *exact* same problem. They're frantically walking through the store, you can tell they're searching . . . "but no, just looking" I don't know about you guys, but I don't "just look" like that.

Another will be the, "no, just looking" then they'll quickly follow that with whatever they're looking for (this one doesn't particularly bother me - and I get it . . . A LOT).

Yet another will be the, "no, just looking", they'll continue looking, I walk away find something to do. My co-worker (sometimes, mostly it's MANAGER or OWNER) will come up behind me, five seconds later, ask the same question, customer replies "oh yes, do you have . . .?"
I've pretty much given up on those people, as they come through here a lot too.

[Primer]

Yet another will be the, "no, just looking", they'll continue looking, I walk away find something to do. My co-worker (sometimes, mostly it's MANAGER or OWNER) will come up behind me, five seconds later, ask the same question, customer replies "oh yes, do you have . . .?"

I hate to admit that I have been guilty of this a few times. I really do try to find what I'm looking for on my own, first.

Sometimes, just as I have given up, another employee will approach me and offer help, which I will finally accept.

I really do try to find it myself, first!

If the store pays commission, I try to get back to the person that contacted me first (as long as they were halfway decent to me).

[Enjis]

My favorite 'Asking if they need help' story

So, I was working in the children's clothing department...
A younger adult woman, and her mother, walk into my department.
Me: May I help you find something?
Mom: Yes, do you have Guess jeans?
Me: We do, let me show you where they are...*starts walking them to the area...*
Daughter: *pointedly, sternly, dismissivly* Thank you, we're just looking.
Me: *walks away, but no too far...*
a minute or two later...
Mom: *calling me over* Could you tell me about the sizing...?
Me: Sure, *explains sizing to them both*
Daughter: *dismissivly* Thank you, we're just looking.
Me *walks away again...*
a few minutes later...
(repeat above scene, several times, with different questions from Mom, several rude dismissals from Daughter...)
Finally, they leave.
Daughter: *meanly, as they walk past me* You can never find anyone to help you around here....!
Me:

[Requilum]

Ugh... I get this all the time:

Me: Hi, do you need help finding anything today?
Customer Walking Towards Me: Nope. *continues walking, towards other associate standing quite a few feet behind me* Hi, I was looking for something , and am wondering if you can help me find it?
Me:

It's either that, or when I'm obviously extremely busy. Then in their mind it's the right time to ask me. (No, the two huge stacks of movies im currently carrying, aren't an inconvience, and i'll gladly grab that video of the shelf that's right in front of you. )

[Mixed Bag]

Oh man!! I had no idea this would bother anyone. I talk to my son at the store all time like this....I think of it as a good way to talk to myself, but since he's there they don't think I'm as much of a nut!!

Doesn't bother me--and, if you'll forgive this analogy to your flesh and blood, props are great. I like to walk in all kinds of situations, even stopping in strange neighbourhoods near errands instead of always just going around my own area--and while I try park and leave the car inconspicuously, I think I'd look even less suspicious if I had a dog.

I guess it should be in the off-topic forum, but I'd love to hear other prop stories!