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    Hitting the brick wall

    Me: Hi, my name is CC, I'm a manager here at <Red Checkmark>, what can I do for you tonight?
    SC: I bought this Samsung S6 phone two months ago but it's a piece of shit. I want my money back or I want an iphone.
    Me: It's certainly inconvenient when your phone isn't working. What seems to be the problem? Maybe we can get it working for you.
    SC: No, no, no. I don't want to troubleshoot. I've been through all that. I've reset it. Nothing works.
    Me: That being the case, your phone is still under warranty, I'd be happy to send you out a replacement.
    SC: Great. I want an iphone 6S.
    Me: Well, that's not really how it works sir. A warranty replacement is almost always same make and model. Therefore you'd get another Samsung S6.
    SC: No, no, no. Am I speaking Spanish or something? I told you before I do NOT WANT this phone. Can't I just take it back to the store and exchange it?
    Me: We only accept returns for 14 days. Seeing as how it's been over two months, that won't be possible.
    SC: Well what if I pay the difference between this phone and the iphone and you just send me an iphone?
    Me: I'm afraid it doesn't work like that. I can't just swap out your phone. even with a payment.
    SC: So how can I get an iphone 6S right now?
    Me: You can go to the nearest store and pay $650.
    SC: WHAT?!?! $650 for a PHONE??? Are out of your mind??
    Me: Full retail price for most high end phones these days runs between $600 and $1000, if not more.
    SC: LIAR!!
    Me: Excuse me?
    SC: You're LYING. Walk into any <Red checkmark> store and look at the prices, I guarantee you won't find a one over $1000.
    Me: That's true but the prices we advertise are NOT the full retail cost of the phone, they are either the price after discount with a 2 year contract or the monthly installment rate on our SHARP plans.
    SC: Can't I just renew my contract and get an iphone then?
    Me: Again, I'm afraid not.
    SC: Well why the hell not? I signed a contract before, I'll sign one again. It's cool. I don't mind.
    Me: You're willingness to sign doesn't matter. We give you a discount on the price of the phone in exchange for you agreeing to keep service with us for two years. The idea being we make the money back from the discount over two years of you paying bills. If we were to just go ahead and renew your contract now and give you another discount without recouping the first one, we'd be out even more money.
    SC: And??
    Me: And?
    SC: Yeah "and?". I don't get it. Sure you'd be out a bit of money but you're a multibillion dollar company. You can afford it.
    Me:
    Me: We didn't get to be a multibillion dollar company by throwing away money sir.
    SC: This is bullshit! Are you going to help me or not?
    Me: I can look to see if you qualify for a new line, you may be able to get a cheaper phone that way.
    SC: But there will be activation fees and such right?
    Me: Yes.
    SC: GAH! More money, more charges, more fees. You guys are like fucking leeches. I'm going to make this simple: You either give me a free iphone or I take my business to <Death Star> Wireless.
    Me: I can't give you a free iphone.
    SC: Then I'm gone. You can all go straight to hell. *click*

    Good riddance jackass, don't let the door hit you!

    In which I make her an offer she CAN refuse!

    BG: Woman called because her teenage daughter had racked up a huge amount of data use, causing $300 in overages.

    Me: So I can't waive the full charge for you, but I can offer you a $100 credit against it.
    SC: That's it? $100?!? That's IT?!?!
    Me: Well do bear in mind these are valid charges. This data was actually used. We are not obligated to offer you anything.
    SC: The hell you're not!! You better give me back every penny or I'm going to start SCREAMING TO EVERY TV STATION, NEWSPAPER AND GOVERNMENT AGENCY I CAN FIND!!"
    Me: Ma'am, if you could calm down for a moment I can--
    SC: NO! GIVE ME MY CREDIT!!
    Me: The $100?
    SC: $300!!! 300! Three-Zero-Zero! All of it!!
    Me: I've already told you we can't do that. I can give you the $100, take it or leave it.
    SC: Don't you know the customer is always right? GIVE ME MY $300.
    Me: Actually we don't follow that policy at <Red Checkmark>.
    SC: WHAT??
    Me: We have no official policy that says the customer is always right. Sorry.
    SC: What are you trying to say?
    Me: I'm saying I can't give you $300.
    SC: Fine, I'll take $275 then.
    Me: $100
    SC: $250
    Me: $100
    SC: $225
    Me: $50
    SC: What, WHAT DID YOU SAY?!?!
    Me: I said $50.
    SC: Right, but before you that you said you could give me $100.
    Me: Correct but you refused that offer multiple times, so the offer is now $50.
    SC: You have no right to do that to me. NO RIGHT!
    Me: I have every right. Like I said earlier. These are valid charges. I don't have to offer you anything.
    SC: $200
    Me: $50
    SC: $200
    Me: No and I'm afraid now all credit offers are off the table. This will all be thoroughly noted in your account. Is there anything else I can do for you today?
    SC: Yeah, you can FUCK RIGHT OFF AND DIE!! *click*

    Ahh, sweet victory. How glorious it is.

    Malfunction junction

    (Note: a few minutes before this call came in, most of our systems went down)

    Customer is trying to convince me to give her a free phone. I can't even access the account because all our systems are, you know, DOWN. I explain this to her and...

    SC: Well, you're going the extra mile to be unhelpful aren't you?
    Me: Excuse me??
    SC: You could have just said there's nothing you can do.
    Me: I did say that but only because I can't access my systems.
    SC: Look if you don't want to give me a phone just say it.
    Me: I can't even access you account to see if one is warranted in this situation. It's not a matter of me wanting to, it's a matter of me NOT being able to.
    SC: You people, you're all the same. Cheating, stealing, lying. I think I'll take my business elsewhere...
    Me: That is of course your choice but I swear to you our systems are indeed down right now. I'm not lying.
    SC: Just...stop. Stop trying to cover your ass, I know what you're doing. Just cancel all my lines and I'll go to D-mobile in the morning.
    Me: I'm sorry I can't do that.
    SC: WHY NOT??
    Me: (say it with me everyone) Our systems are down right now.
    SC: Ohhh. Ha ha ha. Ok, I get it. You just watch. Ten minutes from now I will call back the systems will be working again. Imagine that...You people disgust me. *click*

    I followed up on the account the day after and she had called five times in the next 45 minutes after talking to me and the systems stayed down the entire time. She has not, as of yet, carried out her threat to go to D-mobile.

    Ending on a low note

    I have low tolerance for people who personally insult me on the phone. I have an even LOWER tolerance when this happens on my very LAST call of the night before going home for the weekend. So to you Mr. Glorious SC, the one who called me a three eyed donkey fucker, I long for the day when you finally reap all the nastiness you've sown. Oh and that $75 credit I gave you before you got vulgar with me? RESCINDED!

    As to how this all happened: Basically he started off decently enough and the credit was for some confusion over charges relating to a plan change. Like the data credit above, this was a discretionary credit, I didn't have to give him anything. So I do the credit and then he starts wanting to complain about every <Red Checkmark> employee he's dealt with and how he hates f***ing foreigners and middle easterners. This eventually culminated in him calling me the insulting name above, apparently because he deemed me solely responsible for hiring those foreigners he dislikes so much. Way to dig yourself IN to a hole there, dude.

    America, 2015

    One of my reps had a customer hung up on him because the felt the rep had most likely voted for Obama and the customer didn't think he could trust him.

    Last edited by CrazedClerkthe2nd; 11-08-2015, 07:00 PM.
    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

  • #2
    You get some real crazies. At least you can have a little fun.

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    • #3
      Wow, and I thought retail could suck out your soul and make you jaded towards humanity. Your calls win over anything I saw doing retail.
      A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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      • #4
        Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
        Me: I'm saying I can't give you $300.
        SC: Fine, I'll take $275 then.
        Me: $100
        SC: $250
        Me: $100
        SC: $225
        Me: $50
        SC: What, WHAT DID YOU SAY?!?!
        Me: I said $50.
        SC: Right, but before you that you said you could give me $100.
        Me: Correct but you refused that offer multiple times, so the offer is now $50.
        SC: You have no right to do that to me. NO RIGHT!
        Me: I have every right. Like I said earlier. These are valid charges. I don't have to offer you anything.
        SC: $200
        Me: $50
        SC: $200
        Me: No and I'm afraid now all credit offers are off the table. :
        Look, you've already been chopped down to bloody stumps on the ground, just give up... nope, nope, the BLACK KNIGHT SHALL ALWAYS TRIUMPH!!!!! *SHINK*

        And off goes his head............

        ANd considering no competent carrier these days is going to cave in to a straight-up gimmie grab, I wonder what people like this think when not only do you not care they're defecting, but their new carrier won't do it either... oh to be a fly on the wall.
        - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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        • #5
          That was a Monty Python reference wasn't it?

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          • #6
            Quoth Retail Ninja View Post
            That was a Monty Python reference wasn't it?
            It was indeed.


            These people really frost me. If every company you do business with is cheating, lying and stealing, why the hell do you give them your business in the first place?

            I mean, imagine a company wanting to actually make a profit! The HORROR!!
            When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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            • #7
              Related to the first one... I had an Android phone that was a gigantic POS back in 2011 that I got when I renewed my contract. So I, y'know, saved my money (GASP!), went to my Red Checkmark store when I was five months into my contract, calmly told the employee there I wanted an new iPhone 4, that I had $600+ cash on me and was willing to pay full retail price for it. He obliged, I walked out of RC with my new iPhone and everyone was happy. that will be 4 years ago on Wednesday and I don't regret my decision to go Apple. I did another crazy thing when I was in NYC for New Years (2015). I paid full price for my iPhone 6+ at an Apple Store, but that was because I WANTED TO. Plus I still had half a year before I was due to renew. The horror!

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              • #8
                Sorry you are getting sucktastic customers mrAru worked CS in Red Checkmark's CT call center back in 2004ish and didn't seem to get so many idiots.

                And we have had them as our cell provider since around 2000 and other than a dropped smartphone we have never had issues with any of our phones or our service ... and the dropped phone that broke the screen wasn't CS' problem, it was my butterfingered hubby!

                [and that reminds me, he is due for a phone changeout as am I, we have had our current phones for a while, I am still using my first gen Droid and his is about 6 months newer!]
                EVE Online: 99% of the time you sit around waiting for something to happen, but that 1% of action is what hooks people like crack, you don't get interviewed by the BBC for a WoW raid.

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                • #9
                  "If I can't upgrade 20 months early/get a credit/perform this ritual Santeria sacrifice in the middle of your store/etc., I'm leaving for ******* Wireless!"

                  That's fine, but then you'll be responsible for the entire cost of the phone (Or ETF, depending on what plan they're on).

                  It used to amaze me at the number of people who are willing to ruin their credit over something petty. Now, I just laugh at them with my employees once they've left.

                  I also take a (probably unhealthy) pleasure in cancelling someone's lines when they demand I do so...mainly because it means that they won't be able to keep the phone numbers that they've had for 20+ years. If they were nice, I might have warned them.
                  "She didn't observe the cardinal rule: Don't F**K with people who handle your food"
                  -Ryan Reynolds in 'Waiting'

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                  • #10
                    *shakes head*

                    Because being rude to the person who you want to help you out is SO logical. I for one, give better service to people who are pleasant with me. I think good behavior should be rewarded and sucky behavior should result in negative reinforcement. Customers are like children, they need to be taught.

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                    • #11
                      The ones threatening to "go to another carrier" will really HATE to find out that getting out of a contract is a min of $180. In the one case, $350. And that the "Death Star" is also trying to move away form 2 year contracts.
                      If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Argabarga View Post
                        ANd considering no competent carrier these days is going to cave in to a straight-up gimmie grab, I wonder what people like this think when not only do you not care they're defecting, but their new carrier won't do it either... oh to be a fly on the wall.
                        I think there's a subset of wireless customers out there that just aimlessly bounce from carrier to carrier every few years non-stop, trashing their credit in the process.
                        "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

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                        • #13
                          Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
                          I think there's a subset of wireless customers out there that just aimlessly bounce from carrier to carrier every few years non-stop, trashing their credit in the process.
                          Mostly because they are SC's who constantly complain and whine, so companies are not sad to see them leave...

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                          • #14
                            Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
                            Me: I'm saying I can't give you $300.
                            SC: Fine, I'll take $275 then.
                            Me: $100
                            SC: $250
                            Me: $100
                            SC: $225
                            Me: $50
                            SC: What, WHAT DID YOU SAY?!?!
                            Me: I said $50.
                            SC: Right, but before you that you said you could give me $100.
                            Me: Correct but you refused that offer multiple times, so the offer is now $50.
                            SC: You have no right to do that to me. NO RIGHT!
                            Me: I have every right. Like I said earlier. These are valid charges. I don't have to offer you anything.
                            SC: $200
                            Me: $50
                            SC: $200
                            Me: No and I'm afraid now all credit offers are off the table. This will all be thoroughly noted in your account. Is there anything else I can do for you today?
                            Ah, Jester's patented Anti-Haggling Technique.

                            ...I think it was Jester who used something like that once.

                            ...he may not have even patented it.

                            ...or considered it anti-haggling.

                            ...WHATEVER. It was funny.
                            PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

                            There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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                            • #15
                              I first read of this anti-haggling technique in a book by Robert Asprin (I think it was Myth Conceptions) back around 1980.
                              "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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