The Demonchild and Doglady

[latenightchild]

The demon-it-child.
This horrible little demonchild comes into the coffeebean everyday after school to study with some fat old tutor.
We all loathe this child. Every like, 10 minutes the demonchild gets bored with studying and jumps around the store being noisy and annoying.
One time she came up to the counter and asked us to turn down the volume.
“Of the music?” We asked. (we didn’t know her very well at that point)
Demonchild “No, of your voices.”
She always bugs us to put samples out but every time we DO when she’s there she fucking takes them all! And we can't ask them to leave even though they never Buy anything cause our boss likes to see us suffer! (she only works mornings, so she has never had the pleasure of meeting demonchild)
And they always leave a mess of paper shavings and water cups whenever they leave. Basically, they are they curse of store 83 rained down on us by god or whoever saw fit to punish us for some horrible deed we had committed in the past.
Also, she stares at us. Intensely. All the time, for no reason. You look up from moping and there she is, staring. It's freaky…
Anyways one day the demonchild and the tutor come in and walked right up to the counter and the conversation went thus.
Fat tutor: Excuse me, there's some women outside with two dogs and their not even tied up or anything-
Demonchild: Yeah! And their dog attacked our dog!
Me: ( …..where the hell is your dog lady? If you left it in the car, it's going to die. They have no dog with them!)
Fat tutor: could one of you go outside and ask her to tie up her dogs?
Shift: [my name] take care of it
Me: (damnit) fine.
Demonchild: Are you coming? Follow me, I’ll show you. Are you coming? She’s here, follow me.
Me: (holy hell child I’m coming!)
Anyways I follow her outside and there are indeed two large dogs not tied up laying in the sun. Honestly, they look dead. Just lying there. I walk up to the lady I amume owns them.
Me: Are these your dogs?
Doglady: Yes.
Me: Could you please tie them up we had a-
Deminchild: Yeah! Your dog attack our dog!
Doglady: My dog didn’t attack your dog!
Me: Pease lady, I don’t really want to do this but I have to. (I am more or less completely ignored)
Demonchild: Yes! Your dog knocked our dog over!
Doglady: They did not!
Demonchild: Yes!
Doglady: Your nothing but a spoiled little brat and your mother doesn't love you!
Me:…………………(What??????? Did she really just say that to a 10 year old??????)
Doglady: (gets her dogs and leaves)
Me……(to stunned to say anything.)
Demonchild: My mother does love me!! (she yells at the women, then starts to cry)
Me: (having no other choice I put my hand on her shoulder) it's ok, lets just go back inside.
Now the Demonchild always comes to me when she wants something, and whenever I work she stares at me. Yes, she is still a Demonchild, we all still hate her. …she’s more annoying now if anything

Next friggin day!
I’m working at the counter minding business cleaning.
Demonchild: (runs up to me in like a dead sprint) Do you have any scissors!?
Me: Yeah….(goes to get them)
Demonchild: There's a do outside caught in a bush and-
Me: Here. (hands her the scissors. I really couldn't care less) don’t run-
Demonchild: (sprints out the door)
Me:…..with the scissors…oh whatever.

Like three days later the Doglady comes in and orders a drink at my register.
Doglady: Could I have a regular no sugar added moca ice blend?
Me: No, I’m sorry, I only serve people with souls!
…..I go in trouble for that. But it was worth it.

[BookstoreEscapee]

I still wanna know where this kid's dog was...

I'm sure there are leash laws so she really shouldn't have them just laying around outside a coffee shop...especially big dogs. You could call the police on her if you were so inclined. Not that I expect most large breeds to be more likely to attack than a smaller breed, but it would still make me nervous to have big dogs loose in public like that. You never know what might startle a dog and cause it to defend itself or its owner; at least a small dog I could handle if it ran at me. Big dog would probably knock me over.

And why the hell don't she and her tutor go to the library or her house or something? Doesn't sound like she gets much learning done...

[JustADude]

Doglady: Your nothing but a spoiled little brat and your mother doesn't love you!

First part, *BAM* bullseye. Second part... eh, outer ring, but it hit the target. No parent that actually cared about their child would have let them get to be such an unholy annoying terror that someone would call them a DemonChild as an anonymous tag. Yes, I know it sounds brutal, and the lady didn't have enough experience to make that judgment, but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

As for the dogs, the DOD (Dirty Old Dog, my late fiancee's uncle and one hell of a great guy) owns a massive, pure black Chow/Akita mix. She's perfectly behaved (except for a few issues with licking the carpet ) and will stick right at his left heel without a leash, no matter what. Raise a good dog right and a leash is redundant... of course, because of leash laws, he puts a leash on her anyway, but it's mostly for show.

[Best Made Tacos]

Me: No, I’m sorry, I only serve people with souls!
…..I go in trouble for that. But it was worth it.

Good for you! Demonchild sounds like 100% pain on legs but she is, after all, just a child. I can remember doing all sorts of things as a kid that I cringe to remember but I'm grateful no adult tried to scar my psyche in retaliation. In fact, telling someone their mother doesn't love them is pretty childish anyway.

Maybe the staring and hyperactivity are an indication of a behavioural problem or condition?

[Becks]

Doglady: Could I have a regular no sugar added moca ice blend?
Me: No, I’m sorry, I only serve people with souls!
…..I go in trouble for that. But it was worth it.

Good for you!!!!!!!!!!

[Jester]

-->This horrible little demonchild comes into the coffeebean everyday...
-->We all loathe this child.
-->...the demonchild...jumps around the store being noisy and annoying.
-->...she fucking takes them all!
-->And they always leave a mess...
-->...they are they curse of store 83 rained down on us...
-->Yes, she is still a Demonchild, we all still hate her. …she’s more annoying now if anything...

This is how you describe the child. Sounds horrible.

...there are indeed two large dogs not tied up laying in the sun. Honestly, they look dead. Just lying there.

This is how you describe the dogs. Sounds well-behaved and in control and no danger to anyone. Just sunning themselves, as apparently the owner knew.

Doglady: Your nothing but a spoiled little brat and your mother doesn't love you!

This is what the dog lady said. Personally, I applaud her for not treating this child like she was "special." Despite what some people say or think, NOT EVERY CHILD IS SPECIAL. Some of them are spoiled little brats, demon children, holy terrors, horrible shits, etc. If the kid was 4, it would be one thing. Ten? She knows she is being a shit, and she is reveling in the chaos she causes and the attention she gets from it. And since it does seem to be attention this little horror is craving to a ridiculous proportion, I don't think it is much of a stretch to conclude that her mother doesn't love her all that much. Or at least doesn't show it.

Like three days later the Doglady comes in and orders a drink at my register.
Doglady: Could I have a regular no sugar added moca ice blend?
Me: No, I’m sorry, I only serve people with souls!

This is how you punish the lady who called it like it is, something we in this forum are constantly wishing more people would do.

You put up with the demon child and her tutor, give them free samples when they are demanded, give this hyperactive miniature cyclone SCISSORS to run around with; you put up with and basically REWARD these two who make your lives a living hell and leave a mess every single time, and who never buy a damn thing!

Yet you smack down this woman, who was attempting to be a paying customer? Who had been victimized by the shenanigans of the very demon child you and your coworker despite just days before? Who apparently has more control over her two dogs than anyone seems to have over this fifth grade pint-sized monster?

I'm sorry, but I must disagree with your selection of targets. I repeat, I APPLAUD the dog lady for what she said. Hell, I would have given her her coffee drink for free!

Sometimes you have to call bullshit when you see it.

Maybe the staring and hyperactivity are an indication of a behavioural problem or condition?

Yes, and I vote for the condition I described in another thread that I believe most of the SCs have: "Fucked In The Head."

Not everything is a condition. Blaming every kind of bad behavior on conditions cheapens the seriousness of actual conditions that actual people suffer from.

Sometimes people, even children, are just assholes.

[chainedbarista]

yes, i agree; the tutor is in part, responsible for her while this kid's in his charge, whether he likes it or not. also, if they're disruptive to other customers, they can be told to leave; what are they going to say, that they were treated unfairly? boo hoo.

as for the dogs, most little dogs are the instigators in big dog vs. little dog fights; yes, it sucks, but the problem still lies with demonbrat-why is this dog unattended in the FIRST place? you know you can't take care of it-LEAVE IT AT HOME!

whether or not she's a child, she's more than old enough to know better, and jester is definitely right, just because she acts up doesn't mean they're a condition creating it-jerkism doesn't discriminate by age, race, size, etc.

she sounds more like a jerk, not someone with a valid condition.

[Crazyredhead]

I NEVER acted like this when I was young. I was the best behaved kid on the block. One look from my mother was like the look of death. She also had these long, long, natural sharp nails that she would dig in when she would grab your arm. She also liked putting her mouth right next to your ear, and with veiled violence, tell you that you are dead meat. She could weild a belt like numchucks. And she had dead on accuracy when she would go to slap you in the face, even from an angle or distance that seems impossible. I tried to swing back at her once and she backed me into a corder and proceeded to blister my young tender hide. I think I was more scared of her growing up than anything else, but I didn't grow up disturbed or homicidal. I keep telling my kids that they don't want me to turn into my mother.

[BookstoreEscapee]

She's perfectly behaved (except for a few issues with licking the carpet )

My cat likes to lick the glass top of the coffee table...especially after it's been cleaned. I guess he likes Windex . Pablo the best dog ever doesn't really need a leash but we put it on him anyway if we're out in public. In the yard I usually don't bother. He tends to meander around in circles and doesn't go too far away from us so he's not too hard to catch if necessary. If a bigger dog comes along he might growl if it gets too close but otherwise he couldn't care less.

As for the woman, I kind of have to agree with Jester. I do think it was mean and childish for her to say what she said, but I also think something needs to be said to this kid. The person who should be saying it, though, is the tutor who is responsible for her while they are there, and her parents who should be teaching her how to act in public in the first place.

[scary cary]

Why would you give a ten year old demon child scissors? At the almighty s-bux we're allowed to refuse to let customers use stuff like our scissors and telephones and such. What if she did get hurt running around with them?

I agree with jester. I can't believe you said that to a paying customer. Especially after the lying little brat caused trouble for her.

[Pagan]

as for the dogs, most little dogs are the instigators in big dog vs. little dog fights; yes, it sucks, but the problem still lies with demonbrat-why is this dog unattended in the FIRST place? you know you can't take care of it-LEAVE IT AT HOME!

Yeah, I've noticed that, too. It seems like, with some exceptions, generally, the bigger the dog, the bigger sweethearts they are.

I have to agree with Jester, too. This kid is an unholy terror. I gotta ask too, why is your place responsible for what someone is doing outside the store? Why didn't they call the police or animal control or something if their dog was attacked? And, the big question, where in the hell was their dog? Did you ever see it? Wouldn't they have been rushing to a vet or something instead of inside bitching at you?

[DesignFox]

I have to admit, I was a little surprised at this story's ending...

I'm not saying that what the woman said was in good taste, but if this kid is truly as horrible as you describe her...she needed the smack-down. It's not like the kid is 4. If she really is 10 or older, she should be better behaved in public.

I think it was great that someone called this kid on her bad behavior rather than bowing down and letting her get away with it (even if I don't agree with the words that were used).

I most certainly would please the paying customer who was polite to me over a couple of obnoxious, upstart freeloaders.

Just my

[Sparky]

FWIW and in case anyone cares, I disagree with pretty much everybody so far.

This kid obviously has ADHD. Yes, it's a real condition. No, it's not just an excuse. The kid has no impulse control and a short attention span.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean she should be permitted behave this way in a public place, especially when she's not a customer. Does your manager care that she's driving away your paying customers? It sounds like "fat tutor lady" isn't doing anything to try to control her behavior. I've seen this with people who work with kids or with the disabled. They get so used to the outrageous behavior that they forget how bothersome it is to others. It's like parents who are so used to dirty diapers that it doesn't bother them to change them in their own living room. And that's fine at home, but then they go out and forget how bothered they used to be and the start changing diapers in the middle of someone else's living room. Ick. And people who work with learning disabled children (or adults) will often go to far in expecting the rest of the world to conform to their ways.

I'd say that someone needs to tell "fat tutor lady" that she needs to either control the kid better or find another place to study. In fact, if it were my store, I think I'd tell her she needs to start buying something or find another place to study. A store is not a library. But unfortunately it sounds like you can't get away with saying that.

Annoying as she is, though, good for you for standing up to Doglady. "You're a spoiled brat" isn't a very nice thing to say but it's understandable. "Your mother doesn't love you" is inexcusable.

[Andara Bledin]

The kid is a brat, no matter what the cause. If you're going to put up with her disruptive, non-buying, customer-costing ways, then it's a bit hypocritical to not also put up with people who are snarky to her, especially when those people are actual customers. Either you put up with assholes, or you don't. Age shouldn't even enter into consideration.

This kid obviously has ADHD. Yes, it's a real condition. No, it's not just an excuse. The kid has no impulse control and a short attention span.

Yes, it's a real condition. Most children diagnosed with it don't actually have it. The vast majority of hyperactive kids are reacting to food allergies. Extremely common, and almost never actually explored except at the insistence of parents who do their research. The usual suspect is wheat, followed closely by added sweeteners.

And, sometimes, kids are just undisciplined little punks who could use a little structure in their lives.

I would be willing to bet a week's paycheck that this kid does not have any condition. Having known true ADD kids, this one comes off as nothing more or less than a kid that's been fobbed off by her parent(s) and is begging for attention. She can't get it by being good, so she'll get it by being bad.

And then she gets rewarded for being bad. Bravo.

^-.-^

[tamezin]

Nature Vs Nurture?

You have to wonder where the kid learned that it is ok to act this way.