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  • Yeah... pretty sure that's a counterfiet

    As promised in my introductory thread, the fake $500 traveller's check:

    It's early December, middle of the week, at your Friendly Mall Record Store (though it looked more like a warehouse then, it now has initials that spell out a word that rhymes with "pie," For Your Edification...). It's busy, but not terribly so; even during the holidays, weekdays aren't that bad. A gentleman walks in looking for an X-Bawks. We tell him, yes, we do have one in stock, and bring one to the front counter. We help him pick out a few games, a controller, and a CD or two, figuring some kid's going to have a pretty good Christmas, and Dad is awesome for not waiting til the last minute. I ring him up, total's somewhere in the $300 range.

    Up until this point, it was a fairly straightforward transaction. We actually enjoyed helping the guy because he was very friendly. I tell him the total, and then it takes a turn for the stupid.

    He asks if we take traveller's checks. We do, and I tell him. He opens his checkbook, and I go to mental yellow alert, because I can see he already has yesterday's date written on it, as well as a signature. They're supposed to do both when the check is presented.

    It's also for $500. And the ink is wearing off where it's been folded. And it's printed crooked. By an inkjet printer. Upgrade to Red Alert, NUmber One.

    All this I can see from six feet away, but I remain silent until he hands the check over. Upon closer inspection, I also note there is no watermark, nor is there a hologram. The raised printing is also missing.

    I call the other manager over.

    "Hey, Other Manager, what's our policy on traveller's check again?"

    Other Manager looks at it and without even a pause says "Yeah, I'm sorry, we can't take that."

    Naturally the customer, or scammer, rather, asks why not. Other manager doesn't mince words.

    "Well, because it's not real," she tells him. The scammer has the nerve to argue.

    "Yes it is," he insists. "I just got it from the bank this morning. How do you now it's not real?"

    Other Manager now starts ticking points off on her fingers, as I just stand there an enjoy the show. Other customers in line are now paying attention and are showing signs of amusement.

    "Well, first, it's printed on normal paper, by an inkjet printer, which I can tell because the ink is rubbing off, as well as being printed crooked. There's no raised lettering, no watermark, and no hologram."

    At this point, I would have given up. Not this guy, though. He's in for the pound, as it were.

    "There most certainly is a hologram on there!" he says, as though we'll magically take his word for it over what our own eyes are telling us. Other manager and I share a look and a Whisky Tango Foxtrot moment.

    "Uh, no there's not." Other Manager replies.

    Again the scammer insists that there is a hologram on his poorly forged check. Other Manager, exasperated, grabs one of the X-Bawks games with a hologram and shoves it in his face.

    "No, it doesn't! This is a hologram!" She points to it. "Right here! There is nothing even remotely resembling a hologram on this check!" She thrusts the check back to the scammer (and this is the only point I disagreed with her on; I thought we should have kept the check) and tells him, again, we're not taking it.

    Thankfully the guy finally buys a clue and leaves, telling us "he'll go to an ATM and be right back."

    If you guessed we never saw him again, you'd be right.

  • #2
    If I were the manager, the first thing I would have pointed out when he said he got it from the bank today is that it has yesterdays date on it.
    That reminds me of my favorite call ever...
    me- "and can I get the credit card you will be using to hold your room"
    guest- "yes, it's an american express ***********7889 expiration 1010"
    me- "sir that is not a valid credit card"
    guest- "damn well it's a valid card"
    me- "as a former employee (he never told me this btw) you should know that card is a fake"
    guset- "how do you know I used to work there"
    me- "because you just gave me the dummy card that we use in training"
    guest- "but that's my card number can't you make me a reservation"
    me- "only if a switch over to the training version of Holidex... i'll be happy to make you a reservation on that, otherwise, please call back with a valid credit card"
    *release call*

    i meen, honestly people, if you are going to use a fake number, at least don't try and use it at the place that taught it to you during training.
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    • #3
      Quoth Record Store Tough Guy View Post
      I can see he already has yesterday's date written on it
      <snip>
      "I just got it from the bank this morning. How do you now it's not real?"
      :snickering:

      I may have missed it, but I didn't see the "yesterday's date" point made when explaining to the guy why the TC couldn't be used.

      And you're right, it should NOT have been returned to him.
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      • #4
        We did, but I left out the part where he said "Oops, I wrote down the wrong date."

        It was long enough already.

        ^_^

        (I know, I know. Tolstoy's rifle, and all that.)

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        • #5
          That's hysterical. I wonder if anybody anywhere was stupid enough to accept it.

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          • #6
            Actually, most US$500 Traveler's Checks in circulation now ARE counterfeit. We're not to accept any without approval from a manager, who I'm sure has to call in the numbers and verify it and all.

            And the ones we have to look out for look good - that guy's just an idiot for continuing to fight.
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            • #7
              Quoth Record Store Tough Guy View Post
              at your Friendly Mall Record Store (though it looked more like a warehouse then, it now has initials that spell out a word that rhymes with "pie," For Your Edification...).
              Don't ask me why, but I have an unreasoning distaste for that name. It just rubs me the wrong way.

              Quoth thegiraffe View Post
              And the ones we have to look out for look good - that guy's just an idiot for continuing to fight.
              The really scary fakes these days are the good-looking cashier's checks. In this age of eBay, those are the popular forgery item of the decade.

              ^-.-^
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              • #8
                Quoth BeckySunshine View Post
                :snickering:

                I may have missed it, but I didn't see the "yesterday's date" point made when explaining to the guy why the TC couldn't be used.
                .
                I actually did catch that, but it still didn't click in my mind...

                I've never even seen a TC for over $100. The main point of TCs is so you don't have to carry a lot of cash when you are away from home. Why would you even want to carry such a large denomination?
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                • #9
                  Quoth BookstoreEscapee View Post
                  I've never even seen a TC for over $100. The main point of TCs is so you don't have to carry a lot of cash when you are away from home. Why would you even want to carry such a large denomination?
                  Buying really expensive electronics that use a different system (PAL vs. NTSCorwhatever) so you can order certain movies/games and be able to play them without mods?
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                  • #10
                    Actually, if it's an AMEX travel's check, the real ones are only issued in denominations of up to $100, so if you see any that have a higher denomination (such as $500), RED ALERT!! RED ALERT!!

                    BTW, that individual you described is no SC (that title doesn't do him justice), he was just a downright THIEF. I personally would've called the local cops on that fella (if anyone tried to pass off such a blantant counterfiet like that). :P
                    Last edited by Estil; 10-21-2007, 09:45 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth thegiraffe View Post
                      Actually, most US$500 Traveler's Checks in circulation now ARE counterfeit. We're not to accept any without approval from a manager, who I'm sure has to call in the numbers and verify it and all.

                      And the ones we have to look out for look good - that guy's just an idiot for continuing to fight.
                      Actually, ALL $500 traveler's checks are fake fake FAKE. Our store now directs all traveler's checks to customer service, where we have to record ID, name, address, tel#, traveler's check info, etc. Any change due is given in the form of store credit (gift card) only, because of the sheer volume of fraudulent checks we've been receiving. And for every $500.00 check (we were receiving a handful each week during summer), the police are called in.

                      Sadly, not all of these people are scammers, some of them are innocent victims. You know the old postal money order scam? This is where a scammer has you send money overseas and deposit a money order into your account as compensation. Unfortunatley, the money order is invalid because the scammer makes a $10.00 money order seem like $1,000.00. There are many variations to this one. The traveler's check scam is similar. So you oftentimes have these poor schmucks who think they have legitimate currency and they have been scammed. Not to mention under suspicion now for fraud.

                      Course, only getting gift cards as change really ticked off our customers who wanted to use traveler's checks legally . Oh well.
                      A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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                      • #12
                        As far as giving it back to him, I probably would've kept it (and framed it with a little plaque that said "Stupid is not legal tender"), but IMO anyone stupid enough to accept that horrible a forge deserves the lost funds.
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                        • #13
                          It definitely should not have been given back to him (even if he may have more). I also think that it wasn't wise of the manager to rattle off the list of things the TC had wrong with it. I know that the SC wouldn't be able to get it completely right, but that kind of information would only assist him to create more faithful versions of real ones. That, or I'm just really paranoid.

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                          • #14
                            That's hilarious.
                            I also figured travelers checks didn't come in amounts more than $500.
                            With Credit Cards and Debit Cards nowadays, I still don't understand why people use Traveler's Checks anymore...

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                            • #15
                              I don't know if you still can, but as of last year (summer), you could indeed get an AmEx traveler's check in the amount of $500. I know, because I got one. It wasn't my idea; the woman who sold it to me asked if I wanted one in that amount, and since I still don't speak Czech that well, I nodded - and got one big check rather than several smaller ones. When I got to the States, I went to the AmEx office and traded it in for checks of smaller denominations.

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