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  • #46
    In your defense, you have to be a DARN good rider to make an experienced dude-totin' horse do what you want them to do. They have seen it all and nothing much really impresses them. Kick and yank all you want, they'll keep doing what they feel like doing. Horses either respect you or they don't, and trail horses put 99% of their riders in the 'don't' column.

    At the dude ranch (this is getting to be like a this one time at band camp thing) we had a horse named Sundance who was reserved for rides with experienced riders who went out with the owner or the owner's son as a guide and did part of the ride at an actual gallop- more expensive, less safe, and you had the pedo Harley-riding ranch owner to deal with, but somehow still fairly popular. Anyway, Sundance was a bit of a head case, which is why he went on experienced rides only- he would dance and jig the whole way if he had to keep to a walk, and would jump when a plastic bag blew by even though he saw the same thing every day.

    However, the thing about Sundance was, even though half the staff refused to do anything with him because he was 'nutty' and embarrassed them by not allowing them even to saddle him, there were a couple of people at the ranch who could walk up to him, jump up bareback, and take him almost anywhere. He was actually a favorite of mine, and a couple other people on staff. A confident, experienced rider gave HIM the confidence to calm down- and it had much more to do with attitude than anything specific about the rider's style. Another of his favorites had less than half my experience, but had the same 'It's all good, let's just go' attitude that calmed Sundance down.
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    • #47
      Well, now I feel better. I already knew I was far from a "great rider." I just figured since I could keep from getting my bum sore and could get them to do some of what I wanted (like stop snacking every 10 seconds or go catch up to the lead), that I fit in the "good enough" category.

      I'm used to being strict with other animals and people. Actually, because I'm afraid of dogs, laying down the law with my "bossy voice" is the only way I can be confident around them. Maybe if I get back to riding more often, I'll get more confident with them, too.

      Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely remember it next time!
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      • #48
        No problem. Horses are VERY smart critters and they sometimes even seem to read minds. I have a handsome fellow named Embrace Reality who certainly reads mine when we have one of those good rides and are totally in sync- I think it, he does it. Attached file is my big man.
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        • #49
          DD: I RODE MUSTANGS IN WEATHER WORSE THAN THIS! I rode and trained Mustangs for YEARS!
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          • #50
            Quoth Saydrah View Post
            No problem. Horses are VERY smart critters and they sometimes even seem to read minds. I have a handsome fellow named Embrace Reality who certainly reads mine when we have one of those good rides and are totally in sync- I think it, he does it. Attached file is my big man.
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            • #51
              Maybe she means a football team? OK, I'll stop.

              I once rode a horse that did the leg trick; tho with her, it was more PMSing than anything else. XD Mares are just full of moodswings; give me a gelding any day.
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              • #52
                Hmm, this riding stable wasn't named after a Mexican hat, was it? The stories of the owner sound familiar.

                For those looking for a boot alternative, Ariat makes some that are more like a hiking boot, with a heel and spur ridge for riding (and alot more support for arches and ankles).

                As far as the "tree thing", some horses do it to get you off or to rattle your chains, but alot just don't take into account that you're sticking out a bit further than their sides; they give themselves enough clearance but you're on your own as far as those strange knees things are concerned.

                I love the dude stories, it brings back memories (worked one in Colorado for a few years, and a good friend still owns one there- no association with the "hat" stable!) My favorite by far was the people who couldn't understand why they couldn't take their kids with in those "backpack" carriers. When we'd explain about low tree branches (not to mention if they get stupid and fall off), they'd get indignant and say "I'll just duck!" - yeah, you will, but what about the kid whose head sticks up further than yours?

                And finally, as the proud owner of two BLM mustangs, they are incredibly smart and tough animals and I still wouldn't ride one on a day like that unless I had to!

                Sorry for the hijack, you hit my favorite subject (horses)!

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                • #53
                  Hi fellow horse lady who worked at a CO dude ranch.

                  No Mexican hats, though. All I can say is it was a REAL 'Wild West' type of establishment, and that if you've ever found yourself in Arvada looking for a horse to rent, you'll get my drift.

                  The Ariats that look like hiking boots are quite nice, actually- I tried on a pair- though I still prefer a nice pair of paddock boots and some full chaps over any other riding kit. Tall boots and jods are nice, but not warm at all on a cold day, and tall boots are hard to put on... bah, anyway, it's quite disturbing to hear there's more than one chain-smoking Harley-riding pedo owner of a dude ranch in this state!

                  ETA: Mustangs rock. I have some great pictures of a five-gaited Spanish mustang stud I broke to ride- poor baby was just being used as a teaser by a different former boss of mine, so I convinced her to let me saddle train him. He's quite lovely now- totes an older lady with limited riding experience around, and has thankfully been gelded (his conformation is terrible though he is gorgeous enough to make up for it).
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                  • #54
                    You're not hijacking it anymore than I am.

                    I couldn't find anything non-leather on the Ariat site, but as I probably won't have time to ride until summer (and then I have to find a place to ride), I have plenty of time to find what's right for me.

                    Yeah, I figured they didn't actually want to break my legs, but I couldn't figure it out since I didn't notice other horses doing it. It makes sense now, though. I think it also explains why they like to walk the edge of steep drops, which actually does freak me a little.
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                    • #55
                      Do a search on "vegetarian cowboy boots", lots of options, it looks like.
                      I'm sure you'll find something; even decent hiking boots will do, you just want them a bit narrow across the ball of your foot if possible, and with about a 1" heel.

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                      • #56
                        Saydrah, glad to hear your not with Sombrero (though your places sounds interesting enough)! I was out of Estes Park, one of the decent places that took great care of the animals and decent care of the wranglers (and we were lacking the pedo part, unless you count the guy wranglers trying to pick up underage girls on vacation!).
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                        • #57
                          Hehehe.... if you want to cringe do a little google-ninjaing and find the website for my previous employer It's pretty bad, though this Sombrero outfit sounds nasty too. A friend of mine was briefly a guide for an outfit in Golden that rented horses to hunters, until she saw the owner pinging the horses with bee bee guns to round them up from the pasture! Needless to say, a resignation and a call to the police followed, though the jerk was never arrested. Dude ranches can be nasty.

                          I've heard good things about Estes, though. Heck, if I could afford to LIVE there, I'd consider applying- lol! Good old mountains where the people who work there don't live there, and the people who live there.... well, mostly don't work at all.
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                          • #58
                            Quoth Saydrah View Post
                            I've heard good things about Estes, though. Heck, if I could afford to LIVE there, I'd consider applying- lol! Good old mountains where the people who work there don't live there, and the people who live there.... well, mostly don't work at all.
                            You just gotta do what us ski bums do.... rent a house and pack as many people into as possible so everyone paying cheap rent. The last house I lived in was 5 people in a small 2 bedroom plus loft (that I think way meant as a storage loft, I couldn't stand up except at the center and I'm 5'2). But I do know some people that had 4 or 5 in a one bedroom. I'm still not sure how they did that.

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                            • #59
                              Hmm... dunno how I'd fit 13 rats in, though!
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