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  • #16
    I had to join just to comment

    Hello All *waves*

    When I worked at a certain radio hut, I got this 'you're a woman' reasoning all the time, and there were quite a few men that I wouldn't approach anymore due to this.
    I was ok with that, to each their own, some men are still part of the ol' boys club.

    The worst, however, was a WOMAN who said I couldn't help her because I was a woman.

    She comes in with a corded phone that wasn't working correctly. The caller ID screen was blank and she wanted it fixed. I told her I was more than happy to help her and put my hand out for the phone.

    It's been a couple years so I don't remember the exact dialog, but she basically told me no, that I am a woman and don't know these things, and wouldn't physically allow me to touch her phone. My manager comes out to assist her, and instead of having him look at the phone, she wants to pick out a new one. I insisted again that I could fix it if I look at it, and again she says no because I am a woman. I was almost going to jump the counter when my manager tells me to go do something else. She buys a new phone, and leaves the 'broken' one behind because it was 'junk'.

    I looked at it right after she left, and the only thing wrong was she had put the batteries in backwards.

    Ok lady, just because you are dumb as bricks, doesn't mean all women are!
    This lady was only in her 30s-40s by the way.

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    • #17
      Yeah, I get that all the time at work... I work at a hotel call center, therefore I must be female or gay... and since I have an obviosly masculine name (my voice is somewhat ambigous though on the phone, which only makes things worse) i [I]must[I] be gay... which I'm not sure how that reconciles with the "you're in utah you must be mormon" mentallity (i guess they think I'm a gay mormon... two things which are mutually exclusive).
      If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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      • #18
        Guess I'm lucky then.

        I'm working in a very very masculine workplace. The job itself is IT, helpdesk, but 80% of the people I'm working with are men. Union guys - teamsters, carpentry...you name it - anything NON computerish.

        And they've all learned who I am in 2 weeks so when they see me they DO ask for help! Even better, I have to move old steel desks (remember those - full size buggers) to get to cabling...the guys jump up and help me without me asking much!

        They tease me a bit but I give it right back - the first two days a lot of guys were saying "I like her, she'll fit right in." To me that was the best!

        Helped an older gent around 60ish today- he didn't know how to use a Global Address book (the one in Outlook). Taught him some tricks, he's wanting more lessons.

        Cutenoob
        In my heart, in my soul, I'm a woman for rock & roll.
        She's as fast as slugs on barbituates.

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        • #19
          pacman said:

          my thought just wanders around not making any kind of sense.

          ..............

          That's because you are a woman! (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)

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          • #20
            Yeah... Or the fact I've been sleeping only 3-4 hours per night for at least a week now.

            BTW, the old man apologised for using such rude words... As he was leaving. I don't think he would have apologised for not letting me help, though. It made me feel a little bit better, but anyway, that's one BIG thing I can't understand.

            ps. The man was still inside our shop when I wrote OP.
            A man can be stupid and not know it, but not if he is married.

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            • #21
              Ah, but a "real gentleman" has to apologise for using naughty words in frnt of a lady - because a lady is too delicate to hear such awful things. (Never mind that she bears children, changes diapers etc etc Funny how the delicate sex traditionally has to do most of the gross tasks, isn't it.)

              But a real gentleman DOESN'T have to apologise for treating a lady like a lady - that is to say, acting as though she is stupid, weak and incapable. I have never understood this myself. I am a man, and I can't understand why one would want to form a partnership with someone you considered to be "worse" than oneself in every way. Women are stupid etc etc but I want one of my very own.

              Of course, there is a proof that most women have poor judgement - they marry men.

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              • #22
                Oh yeah, has happened to me before:

                Me: Can I help you?
                SC: Nah, I don't think you'll know.

                *10 Minutes Later......*

                Co-Worker: Hey, where was the guy I sent to you? *Describes person that just brushed me off* I told him you would know Automotive books, and pointed you out to him.
                Me: I was the wrong gender to begin with.

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                • #23
                  Quoth Bagga View Post
                  The OP should tell the customer about Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper...
                  You'd think names like Ada Lovelace, Rada(?) Perlman, and and Grace Hopper (saw her on Johnny Carson one night - she's very cool - carried around a "nanosecond" stick) would be FAR more widely recognized than, oh, Steve Ballmer

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                  • #24
                    Erm... I feel very stupid now. I know who is Steve Ballmer, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and such people, but have not the faintest idea of who are the ladies you just listed. Please educate me.

                    I suppose that tells something about me...
                    A man can be stupid and not know it, but not if he is married.

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                    • #25
                      Quoth dreams305 View Post
                      The worst, however, was a WOMAN who said I couldn't help her because I was a woman.
                      The only thing worse than a male chauvinist is a female male chauvinist! Yeah, thanks for perpetuating the stereotype!
                      I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
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                      • #26
                        ha! the computer store me and my b/f go 2 to get parts has a women that works there. shes knows more about what we are talking about then the men!!!
                        it's said that no sane person could bite another person and draw blood. I've done it before, but then again sanity has always been questionable in our family.

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                        • #27
                          Hell, I get this kind of crap all the time from jerks who come into the tool department. I know a lot about the department and there are things I don't know because I haven't had formal training in that department.

                          The one thing I don't get is when men won't talk to me to ask a question about where an item is in the department! I would say about 75% of the time the salesguy would come back to me to ask me where the item is. I know that department like the back of my hand. I merchandise it, I price it, and I sign it. You tell me the features of a major item and nine times out of ten I can give you the correct stock number off the top of my head.

                          Some of the salesmen used to treat me the same way that some customers did, but that stopped when the new ASM of HI was a woman who know more about tools than they did.

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                          • #28
                            Quoth pacman View Post
                            Erm... I feel very stupid now. I know who is Steve Ballmer, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and such people, but have not the faintest idea of who are the ladies you just listed. Please educate me.
                            Grace Hopper was a computer scientist and United States Navy officer. She developed the first compiler for a computer programming language.

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

                            Ada Lovelace was the daughter of Lord Byron (yes, the poet). She was interested in mathematics and translated Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea's memoir on Babbage's newest proposed machine, the Analytical Engine. Had the Analytical Engine ever actually been built, her program would have been able to calculate a sequence of Bernoulli numbers. Based on this work, Lovelace is now widely credited with being the first computer programmer.

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

                            Radia Perlman is a software designer and network engineer sometimes referred to as the 'Mother of the Internet'. She is most famous for her invention of the spanning-tree protocol, while working for Digital Equipment Corp, which is fundamental to the operation of network bridges.

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radia_Perlman




                            Yeah, I'm a know it all. So sue me.
                            Because as we all know, on the Internet all men are men, all women are men and all children are FBI agents.

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                            • #29
                              Quoth ThePhoneGoddess View Post
                              Grace Hopper Ada Lovelace Radia Perlman
                              Radia! I knew I had it wrong but couldn't cough up in time that day - too much Real Life™. And thanks for answering pacman for me. Hopper and Lovelace are probably better known, but I always think of Perlman as the reason things don't go "bump" on the net To paraphrase Jules Winnfield: "Lookit the big brain on Radia!"

                              BTW pacman, don't feel stupid - it IS a pretty male centric culture. I just like to hope that some of us can appreciate the hacker ethos no matter what package it comes in.

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                              • #30
                                Slightly OT, but stereotypes can be such a funny thing. I'm one of the few men in America who hates sports. If I'm going to watch TV, I'd much rather watch a good movie or some kind of documentary on Discovery Channel, Food Network, or National Geographic if I can't find one of my shows (Star Trek, Stargate, The Simpsons, Family Guy, stuff along those lines). If I'm going to listen to the radio, I want music, but I'd rather listen to talk radio than a ball game.

                                Everyone seems surprised when I mention that I don't like sports, and don't follow the ballgames that all the other guys are watching. On ball game nights, everyone will come in to the store asking if I know scores or stats. Nope! I could care less. The only reason I know there is a game is because everyone else is talking about it, and that's all anyone wants to talk about.
                                The Borg wouldn't know fun if they assimilated an amusement park. -- B'Elanna Torres, Star Trek: Voyager

                                Math! Math, my dear boy, is but the lesbian sister of Biology. -- Peter Griffin, Family Guy

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