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    You may have seen charity boxes in many small shops. Large shops have tended to refuse permission to charities to leave then in as an increasing amount of thieves have begun to target them. We still have a few.
    We took the decision to support the RNLI a long time ago and to limit the numbers of the other charity boxes. The others are left in one area where they can be seen and people occasionally put money in them. The RNLI, though, is the one we do a little work for.

    People want to put up posters in shop windows. We're not using the space for anything else and posters look like special offers, especially since few people actually read them. I saw a report that said that research had proved this works - people just assume that they are special offers. Curious but quite likely, when you think about it. However, for this we charge people - for a six week stint in the window for their poster, they have to donate something to the lifeboat box. We don't have any set amount but find that emotional blackmail works perfectly well. In nearly nine years we've raised the best part of two thousand pounds.

    Today we had someone who wanted to put a poster up. The Boss pointed out the box and explained the situation - a donation and we're happy and we'll even supply the blu-tack.

    "But this is for charity," the woman protested.

    "So's the lifeboat box," the Boss told her. She grumbled but paid up.
    The problem is that we've gone through this time and again. One woman got as far as this but didn't pay up.

    "Well," she said, visibly offended, "I don't have any money on me. I'll have to come back with some later." She put the poster on our counter and walked out.

    We watched her go. Two minutes later, we watched her come back.

    "You've not put my poster up!" she cried, accurate to the tenth decimal point.

    "When something goes in the lifeboat, the poster goes up," we informed her. We've had people just not turning up with the promised cash before. We're not going to go much out of our way to work for a charity but we're also not going to be mugs on their behalf.

    Oddly enough, the woman in that case didn't say a word. She just snatched the poster back and stalked off.

    Businesses tend to get a reasonable number of phone calls from charities begging for money for sponsorship. We're no different. Certain wards of local hospitals occasionally ask for contributions - that's right, hospitals who are funded by the NHS which happens to be the biggest employer in the country. The Boss informed one telebeggar that he's already contributed through his National Insurance so could they leave him alone? They did.

    One charity sent a box with us and keeps sending letters asking for us to bring it into their offices unopened. Do they have a volunteer who can pop over once a year or so? Apparently not. They expect us to be their volunteer for them. We'd have to go several miles out of our way and the letters keep ending up in the bin for no fathomable reason. Many charities seem to take the line that we have a duty to do their work as well as our own.

    Charity is big business. "Make your will out to us!" "A Legacy can help others!" "How you can benefit the needy by dying! Our leaflet tells you how!" I'll drop loose change into a box now and then, but when the executives of a charity earn more than the yearly turnover of our shop then you can consider my attitude jaundiced.

    With the size of the business in mind, however, it's no wonder that they start young. A girl of perhaps thirteen years of age walked in one evening as we were pulling everything away. She stood in the doorway for a few moments, blocking it. We glanced at her curiously but she did nothing so we ignored her.

    "I'm doing a sponsored walk," she said eventually.

    The Boss looked at me. I looked at him. Neither of us liked what we saw but that's genetics for you. We then turned our gazes on the girl. She looked back at us and said nothing. The Boss and I shrugged, waiting for the next part. Would it be, "Please," "Thank you," or, "By your elbow"?

    She remained silent until she walked away. We're in business. We don't give away money without a receipt, a formal request, statement of account or big Bambi eyes. With none of the above she got nothing.

    I remarked on this to the newsagent the next day.

    "She came in here as well," he told me. The result? "I asked her what charity it was for. 'I've not decided yet,' she replied." Oddly enough she got nothing there either.

    I suppose that the runner-up in the competition for sheer cheek (the girl above coming first) must have been the woman who was helping out at a charity event. Her golf club was having an 'event' and could we supply them with a fruit basket as a raffle prize? No 'please' or 'thank you', but the bigger the better.

    We made one up and she collected it on the appropriate day. We mentioned this to one or two other people who happened to go to that club and they were looking forward to the event.

    Two weeks later the woman in question came back. How had the event been?

    "Oh," the woman replied, waving a hand airly for such matters were beneath her. "I didn't bother going to *that*."

    We think she caught the look on our faces for she never asked again.

    Rapscallion

  • #2
    Once upon a time, charities asked for volunteers. Now they just ask for money.

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    • #3
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      I should put up a sign in our showroom saying "This is a non-profit organisation. Please help us change"

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      • #4
        Quoth Gurndigarn View Post
        Once upon a time, charities asked for volunteers. Now they just ask for money.
        That's why my grandmother no longer gives anything to charity. She saw just how much cash was being wasted on fancy address labels, stickers, and other frivolous crap. I mean, she was all for helping people out, but when the cash starts going more to promotional materials instead of its intended targets, she had a major problem with that.

        Another thing she found annoying, is that they were constantly bugging her for money...even if she'd already given them some that month. That, and the constant multiplication of similarly-named charities just turned her off to the idea. Instead, her cash goes to her church a few times a year, and that's it.
        Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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        • #5
          Quoth AforElephant View Post
          I should put up a sign in our showroom saying "This is a non-profit organisation. Please help us change"
          Funny, I've gone around work with a cup, going up to coworkers saying, "Alms for the poor." I got a few pennies here and there.
          Unseen but seeing
          oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
          There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
          3rd shift needs love, too
          RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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          • #6
            Heh - we had a box for the lifeboat service - the RNLI. For those not in the UK, our lifeboat chaps and chappesses are all volunteers and funded solely through charity and sales etc. It's a rescue service that receives no government funding. We were the best box for the guy emptying it in the area.

            Someone wanted a turkey boned? Drop something in there. Dog bone or other major favour? Stick something in the lifeboat box. Want a poster in the window? Sure - put something in the lifeboat box. It worked for us as a system.

            One customer said she knew someone who researched charities. They worked out how much actually went to the cause and how much was spent on administration etc. A few surprising names were ones I will not donate to, but the RNLI came out as a good one.

            I'll give to charity boxes if I recognise them as being a decent one, but I'll never set up a regular payment to one - as soon as they have your details, they bombard you with requests.

            Got to the point in our local town that it was being taken over by charity shops - they pay no business rates, their stock is donated for the most part, and their staff are mostly unpaid. Since a couple of supermarkets opened, two of them based around the elderly have closed, claiming unfair competition.

            Rapscallion

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            • #7
              In a vaguely related way, I've had phone calls at home from the police.
              Once a year, like clockwork.
              "Hey, Juwl, I see you pledged last year, but we never got anything from you."
              My usual response? "You didn't get my nothing? Here, let me send it again, right now. Hell, I'll send you three nothings!" *click* I have never once agreed to give them any money, mind, but every year, "we didn't get your pledge."
              Back OT:
              We used to have some of the most brazen attempts to get free things, "for a raffle"...
              "What do you guys do with those posters?"
              M: "The ones around the top of the store?"
              "Yes."
              M: "They stay there, until the company decides to swap them out."
              "And then?"
              M: "They go back to head office, to be sent to a different store."
              "Would you be willing to donate one to a raffle?"
              M: "No ma'am. I would not be willing to donate anything from this store, as it isn't my stuff." (It was invariably a woman and her daughter of maybe ten years who would ask) "Besides, they look better up there."
              Last edited by Imogene; 09-05-2006, 09:18 PM.
              "I call murder on that!"

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              • #8
                Our software is used primarily to create accessible materials for folks with disabilities. The owner chose to be a for-profit company because he wanted to make the best possible product for the best possible price without having to waste time and money on a fundraising staff.

                BUT 90% of our customers are charities, schools, agencies or people with disabilities. The other 10% are businesses who hire people with disabilites or use our product to provide services for customers with disabilities.

                Our pricing reflects our costs. We charge everyone the same. We can't expect 10% of our customers who are for-profit to subsidize the other 90%. Nor are WE able or willing to subsidize the other 90%.

                If they ask, we politely point out that donating to one deserving organization will raise prices for other deserving organizations; it simply wouldn't be fair to play favorites. This is usually accepted with good grace and we move on.

                However, some will still argue and try to make me feel guilty about "taking money from the disabled." When that happens, I don't mind pointing out that many of our staff are working to feed and clothe their children with disabilities, myself included. It's amazing how that shuts them up.

                Actually, we have donated to some people. There are orphanages in certain countries that are in true need. The owner has been there and seen that for himself. THEY get free product with our blessings.

                An American agency which managed to raise $25,000 for equipment (which they did not buy from us; we don't even sell equipment) and assumed that if they didn't raise $600 for the software, we'd just give it to them, is getting nothing. That's not need, that's poor planning.

                Oh, and the 10% of our customers who are businesses? Would you believe that a good percentage of them try for a discount or free product because they are small business owners, just starting out?

                We can't win.
                The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

                The stupid is strong with this one.

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                • #9
                  While I was working in the pet section, I had an RSPCA box chained to my till. That was all. I got quite a few charity hawkers ringing me up and asking me to put their box on my till; I refused them all saying, "I've already got am RSPCA box on the till; no room for any more." They never took the hint; some of them would even come in and bug me in person.
                  People who don't like cats were probably mice in an earlier life.
                  My DeviantArt.

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                  • #10
                    I volunteer for 2 charities, none of us are paid

                    Many of the large charities have paid staff who make tons of money. Please do not mix up the small, true not-for-profit charities with the big guys.

                    I know where the $ our groups raise goes. It doesn't go to the workers, it goes to the charity. Every. Single. Penny. Us volunteers pay for our own gas to go to "work" and we pay for our food and water when we are there all day. We buy our own printed T-shirts and often spend our money to buy supplies.

                    For one group, I foster animals in my home and enclosures that we paid to build. For the other, I send items to combat troops between fundraisers. I work so that I can afford to volunteer!

                    We NEED your pocket change, please do not forget about us!!!

                    Now for my horror story. A lady died and left her considerable estate to the National Humane Society. We are talking half a million or so. She also had an elderly cat with health problems and mistakenly thought that the National Humane Society would help.

                    It didn't. The local Humane Society who claims to be no picking/no kill chose to not accept the cat. Our little grassroot rescue group was the one who ended up taking the poor kitty in just because we are used to taking in the HS rejects.

                    PS We got no money for this and are paying the adoptor's vet bills and buying catfood* because the only person who even considered adopting an old, sick cat was an old, sick lady on a very limited income.

                    *and sometimes people food. I've never been good at telling fibs until the last couple of years. I'm almost ashamed about how easy it is to look a poor but proud person in the eye and say "I was at anystore yesterday and they had a buy one get one special on this. I only needed one, but, hey! this one was free so I had to take it. Can you use it, I'd feel terrible if this goes bad before it got used."

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                    • #11
                      Blimming heck. Someone donates half a mill to me, and I'll build them a wing and name it after them. Refusing to look after her kitty cat? It's old and sick for crying out loud. Stick it in one of the shelters, look after it, and it won't be a problem for long.

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                      • #12
                        PS We got no money for this and are paying the adoptor's vet bills and buying catfood* because the only person who even considered adopting an old, sick cat was an old, sick lady on a very limited income.

                        *and sometimes people food. I've never been good at telling fibs until the last couple of years. I'm almost ashamed about how easy it is to look a poor but proud person in the eye and say "I was at anystore yesterday and they had a buy one get one special on this. I only needed one, but, hey! this one was free so I had to take it. Can you use it, I'd feel terrible if this goes bad before it got used."[/QUOTE]

                        Ya know, that has to be one of the most kind, angelic stories that I have come across in a long time.
                        We sometimes think that there is nothing we can do, or that we are able to do so little, that it wouldn't matter; but it matters to someone.
                        And the sky was full of stars... and every star, an exploding ship, one of ours...

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                        • #13
                          When I was 18 I gave blood for the first time, I then recieved a letter saying that they tested my blood and I had hepatitus and should see a doctor. I didn't believe them, I wasn't sick. I followed their insturctions, my doctor laughed when I showed him the letter and laughed. I didn't have hepatitus...yea.

                          They also said I wouldn't be able to give blood again, however they constatnly call me and pester me. They tell me that since I can't donate blood maybe I could just give money.

                          When it comes to charity, I see alot of money comming out of my pay check to support others. I concider medicaid, foodstamps and welfare charities, and I donate to them. I give used clothing and bedding to local churches, I purchase canned goods and toys for hoilday toy and food drives, and I particapate in various charity rides. I think I'm about as damn charitable as I want to be. So don't knock on my door, my pockets are empty.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth garth1 View Post
                            Ya know, that has to be one of the most kind, angelic stories that I have come across in a long time.
                            Oh stop. I'm not kind or angelic. If you keep spreading these rumors around I'm going to have to call you a bad name. I'll do it, I'm rotten and evil to the core, darn it!!!

                            Seriously...this is what true non-profit groups do. We focus on the local needy and work to solve the problems.

                            Quoth garth1
                            We sometimes think that there is nothing we can do, or that we are able to do so little, that it wouldn't matter; but it matters to someone.
                            You are so right. I often rescue humans while trapping cats. I can't save the world. I can do the best I can to clean up my little corner of the world and if it includes feeding people along with critters...well that's why I work for money.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth One-Fang View Post
                              Blimming heck. Someone donates half a mill to me, and I'll build them a wing and name it after them. Refusing to look after her kitty cat? It's old and sick for crying out loud. Stick it in one of the shelters, look after it, and it won't be a problem for long.
                              Darn, I have no idea why this didn't show up when I previewed. And I did preview.

                              We (all 5 of us) were totally furious when the kitty was pushed into our hands.

                              However...the money went to the national HS. The local HS didn't get a penny of the money and was out of room. We (small rescue group) didn't get a penny of the money either. All we did was care for the cat. (lady and cat seemed to be very content when I dropped food off last evening. There is a happy ending to this story)

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